creatine mixing and time question

Cowbell · 07-08-2005, 05:37 PM

I bought some CEE from Bulk Nutrition and it takes like crap...I have had creatine before but this is horrid...I gave it some thought and instead of water I just mixed it with V-8. 10X better. Will doing this negate the properties of creatine. Also, I know you should take it ideally 30min before a workout, could I take it in the morning instead and get the same results. P.S. I bought a shaker today because I got sick of using a water bottle to mix my shakes and inside were free protein bars called procrunch by GNC...not bad, edible...they were free!

fr0st03 · 07-08-2005, 10:58 PM

any creatine that tasted bad... I would mix it (with water) and chug it immediately.

Randy · 07-08-2005, 11:05 PM

I mix my GLutamine with creatine and I'll tell ya it taste terrible with water. I always mix mine with milk. Besides I use 2 cups of milk which yield 20 grams of protein in itself. Yes you have to deal with the fat, but I can deal with that. Milk has a great way of masking the awful taste.

Now if I just consumed creatine monohydrate then that is virtually tasteless in water.

Can you take creatine in the morning? Sure, I don't see that it would degrade the affect much... They say 30 minutes prior to workout cause that is optimum. But I don't think it would make to much of a difference.

BruiseKnee · 07-08-2005, 11:41 PM

i took creatine straight with a table spoon and chugged it with juice (usually grape) ...it was fine, only tasted the "plastic" taste for a second after exhaling.

Randy · 07-09-2005, 12:43 AM

Foreman snorted a line of creatine once just to get a quicker delivery

Cowbell · 07-09-2005, 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BruiseKnee

i took creatine straight with a table spoon and chugged it with juice (usually grape) ...it was fine, only tasted the "plastic" taste for a second after exhaling.

NASTY, but whatever works for you

Quote:

Originally Posted by Randy

Foreman snorted a line of creatine once just to get a quicker delivery

But seriously....it works!

I just tried downing the creatine with my new protein shake...A++++
then all I could taste is the nasty shake. I think I will buy some cheap 100% whey or whey isolate and throw the creatine in with that before a workout and then hit the Mega whey after the workout.

Randy · 07-09-2005, 02:32 PM

I try to avoid the shakes cause I hate the taste of them. Not to mention that they are sweeter than hell (well the ones I tried anyway). I try to get my protein just in the food and milk. I know milk may cause some unwanted fat, but it sure tastes much better; and hell the shakes have sugar and fat. 2 cups of milk = 20 'gs of protein. I just drink a glass of milk every hour 1/2 to 2 hours

That give ya 40 grams within a 3 hour period. Between that its tuna, salmon, chicken or meat amongst other things.

As for the creatine in the shake... That is exactly what I used to do. I would toss everything in the shake. Nothing could taste as bad as the shake, so I didn't taste anything I dropped in there

Cowbell · 07-09-2005, 09:11 PM

Yeah, I dont like the taste of most shakes but the one I have now is pretty decent. 60 grams of protein = only one a day plus 300+ calories and no unwanted milk fat. On top of that it has riboflavin which milk losing due to being exposed to light (this is not a factor if you buy milk in cardboard rather than plastic). I still drink lots of milk, eat a crap load of tuna, and enough peanut butter to choke capt crunch

Randy · 07-09-2005, 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Cowbell

I eat a crap load of tuna, and enough peanut butter to choke capt crunch

I never liked that guy anyway

NEW_IN_THE_GAME · 07-09-2005, 11:04 PM

i mix creatine with gatorade or powerade usually. but now i am using noxplode and cell mass which are pretty good by themselves

Cowbell · 07-09-2005, 11:47 PM

I don't care what anyone say Capt crunch DOES cut the roof of your mouth!

JimDugba · 07-09-2005, 11:54 PM

I just got the BN CEE also and it does taste like crap. Tastes like extremely bitter salt water mixed with chlorinated pool water.
I justmix it in water and try to chug it all at once...less time it spends in your mouth, less time there is to taste it

Cowbell · 07-10-2005, 05:54 PM

Tried that, still makes me want to drink paint thinner

Randy · 07-10-2005, 06:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cowbell

I don't care what anyone say Capt crunch DOES cut the roof of your mouth!

Yeah, I would rather eat wintergreen lifesavers where I can make sparks in the dark

Cowbell · 07-10-2005, 06:10 PM

I would rather eat a wintergreen TREE

Brydges · 07-10-2005, 10:25 PM

Hey.

Visited my dentist recently. He mentioned I had some decalcification occurring, and we fingered CEE - which I had begun using in the weeks leading up to the appointment - as the probable culprit. In case you hadn't noticed, that stuff is bitter - like sucking-ten-lemons-simultaneously bitter. Like losing-a-contest-and-then-your-girlfriend-to-the-same-guy bitter. Hypothetically speaking, of course.

At any rate, he suggested I rinse my mouth thoroughly with tap water after consuming CEE, and even using a prescription flouride paste to reduce the acidity in my mouth. This elevated acidic level - the result of the bitter CEE, he surmised - was beginning to ruin my teeth.

Just an FYI, in case you were wondering what that funky feeling was on your teeth after downing the CEE.

Steve
<->

Cowbell · 07-11-2005, 06:47 AM

Thanks for the added info, it will be looked into more!

Randy · 07-11-2005, 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brydges

Hey.

Visited my dentist recently. He mentioned I had some decalcification occurring, and we fingered CEE - which I had begun using in the weeks leading up to the appointment - as the probable culprit. In case you hadn't noticed, that stuff is bitter - like sucking-ten-lemons-simultaneously bitter. Like losing-a-contest-and-then-your-girlfriend-to-the-same-guy bitter. Hypothetically speaking, of course.

At any rate, he suggested I rinse my mouth thoroughly with tap water after consuming CEE, and even using a prescription flouride paste to reduce the acidity in my mouth. This elevated acidic level - the result of the bitter CEE, he surmised - was beginning to ruin my teeth.

Just an FYI, in case you were wondering what that funky feeling was on your teeth after downing the CEE.

Steve
<->

I just had one question regarding this topic. "What the hell is CEE?"

Cowbell · 07-11-2005, 07:49 PM

CEE is Creatine Ethyl Ester, a new form of creatine that had to be approved by the FDA because it is not naturally occurring in nature. The up side is that it does not need the transport molecule. They have it at Bulk nutrition, you can read more about it or you can look up CE2 (same stuff made by the makers of NO2).

Randy · 07-11-2005, 08:38 PM

ok thanks... I will check it out.

chunky34 · 07-18-2005, 03:28 PM

CEE is so damn acid.
The morning, I just take water, take in the CEE and chase it down with more water. Postworkout, I just mix it with my gatorade which is my carbs source after training (better taste that way, I dont taste CEE at all)

NeedMuscleMass · 07-18-2005, 10:26 PM

how much gatoraid you use?

and do you use about 2.25 tablespoons?

Cowbell · 07-19-2005, 05:24 PM

if you use the CEE from Bulk Nutrition you should only be using 1/4 a teaspoon (thats the smaller one

)

chunky34 · 07-19-2005, 07:45 PM

2.25 tablespoon ? Way too much of CEE. 1/3 of a tablespoon is roughly 3g so that's all you need if it is CEE.

NeedMuscleMass · 07-19-2005, 09:17 PM

lol.. that explains why it was so bad yesterday.. Thats going to make it much easier..

So how many teaspoons do you use?

I feel much better now..

musclepump · 07-19-2005, 11:39 PM

It tastes like chalk. Deal with it.

chunky34 · 07-20-2005, 08:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NeedMuscleMass

lol.. that explains why it was so bad yesterday.. Thats going to make it much easier..

So how many teaspoons do you use?

I feel much better now..

Unless you're 300 lbs at 8-12% bf, only 3g of CEE is all you need, so 1/3 of a tablespoon. (1/3 tablespoon = 1 teaspoon )

07-08-2005, 05:37 PM	#1
Cowbell Registered User Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Indiana Posts: 442	creatine mixing and time question I bought some CEE from Bulk Nutrition and it takes like crap...I have had creatine before but this is horrid...I gave it some thought and instead of water I just mixed it with V-8. 10X better. Will doing this negate the properties of creatine. Also, I know you should take it ideally 30min before a workout, could I take it in the morning instead and get the same results. P.S. I bought a shaker today because I got sick of using a water bottle to mix my shakes and inside were free protein bars called procrunch by GNC...not bad, edible...they were free!

07-08-2005, 10:58 PM	#2
fr0st03 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 5	any creatine that tasted bad... I would mix it (with water) and chug it immediately.
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07-08-2005, 11:05 PM	#3
Randy Woof! Woof! Woof! Elite Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: California Posts: 7,859 Photos: 4	I mix my GLutamine with creatine and I'll tell ya it taste terrible with water. I always mix mine with milk. Besides I use 2 cups of milk which yield 20 grams of protein in itself. Yes you have to deal with the fat, but I can deal with that. Milk has a great way of masking the awful taste. Now if I just consumed creatine monohydrate then that is virtually tasteless in water. Can you take creatine in the morning? Sure, I don't see that it would degrade the affect much... They say 30 minutes prior to workout cause that is optimum. But I don't think it would make to much of a difference.
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07-09-2005, 12:43 AM	#5
Randy Woof! Woof! Woof! Elite Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: California Posts: 7,859 Photos: 4	Foreman snorted a line of creatine once just to get a quicker delivery
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07-09-2005, 02:32 PM	#7
Randy Woof! Woof! Woof! Elite Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: California Posts: 7,859 Photos: 4	I try to avoid the shakes cause I hate the taste of them. Not to mention that they are sweeter than hell (well the ones I tried anyway). I try to get my protein just in the food and milk. I know milk may cause some unwanted fat, but it sure tastes much better; and hell the shakes have sugar and fat. 2 cups of milk = 20 'gs of protein. I just drink a glass of milk every hour 1/2 to 2 hours That give ya 40 grams within a 3 hour period. Between that its tuna, salmon, chicken or meat amongst other things. As for the creatine in the shake... That is exactly what I used to do. I would toss everything in the shake. Nothing could taste as bad as the shake, so I didn't taste anything I dropped in there
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07-08-2005, 11:41 PM	#4
BruiseKnee Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 121	i took creatine straight with a table spoon and chugged it with juice (usually grape) ...it was fine, only tasted the "plastic" taste for a second after exhaling.

07-09-2005, 09:11 PM	#8
Cowbell Registered User Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Indiana Posts: 442	Yeah, I dont like the taste of most shakes but the one I have now is pretty decent. 60 grams of protein = only one a day plus 300+ calories and no unwanted milk fat. On top of that it has riboflavin which milk losing due to being exposed to light (this is not a factor if you buy milk in cardboard rather than plastic). I still drink lots of milk, eat a crap load of tuna, and enough peanut butter to choke capt crunch

07-09-2005, 11:04 PM	#10
NEW_IN_THE_GAME Pic is at 263-14% jan 06 Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Sioux Falls South Dakota Posts: 1,138	i mix creatine with gatorade or powerade usually. but now i am using noxplode and cell mass which are pretty good by themselves

07-09-2005, 11:47 PM	#11
Cowbell Registered User Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Indiana Posts: 442	I don't care what anyone say Capt crunch DOES cut the roof of your mouth!

07-09-2005, 11:54 PM	#12
JimDugba Registered User Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 48	I just got the BN CEE also and it does taste like crap. Tastes like extremely bitter salt water mixed with chlorinated pool water. I justmix it in water and try to chug it all at once...less time it spends in your mouth, less time there is to taste it
JimDugba Registered User Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 48

07-10-2005, 05:54 PM	#13
Cowbell Registered User Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Indiana Posts: 442	Tried that, still makes me want to drink paint thinner

07-10-2005, 06:10 PM	#15
Cowbell Registered User Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Indiana Posts: 442	I would rather eat a wintergreen TREE

07-10-2005, 10:25 PM	#16
Brydges Registered User Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 19	Possible de-calcification from CEE Hey. Visited my dentist recently. He mentioned I had some decalcification occurring, and we fingered CEE - which I had begun using in the weeks leading up to the appointment - as the probable culprit. In case you hadn't noticed, that stuff is bitter - like sucking-ten-lemons-simultaneously bitter. Like losing-a-contest-and-then-your-girlfriend-to-the-same-guy bitter. Hypothetically speaking, of course. At any rate, he suggested I rinse my mouth thoroughly with tap water after consuming CEE, and even using a prescription flouride paste to reduce the acidity in my mouth. This elevated acidic level - the result of the bitter CEE, he surmised - was beginning to ruin my teeth. Just an FYI, in case you were wondering what that funky feeling was on your teeth after downing the CEE. Steve <->
Brydges Registered User Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 19

07-11-2005, 06:47 AM	#17
Cowbell Registered User Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Indiana Posts: 442	Thanks for the added info, it will be looked into more!

07-11-2005, 07:49 PM	#19
Cowbell Registered User Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Indiana Posts: 442	CEE is Creatine Ethyl Ester, a new form of creatine that had to be approved by the FDA because it is not naturally occurring in nature. The up side is that it does not need the transport molecule. They have it at Bulk nutrition, you can read more about it or you can look up CE2 (same stuff made by the makers of NO2).

07-11-2005, 08:38 PM	#20
Randy Woof! Woof! Woof! Elite Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: California Posts: 7,859 Photos: 4	ok thanks... I will check it out.
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07-18-2005, 03:28 PM	#21
chunky34 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 103	CEE is so damn acid. The morning, I just take water, take in the CEE and chase it down with more water. Postworkout, I just mix it with my gatorade which is my carbs source after training (better taste that way, I dont taste CEE at all)
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07-18-2005, 10:26 PM	#22
NeedMuscleMass Confused Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Long Island Posts: 240	how much gatoraid you use? and do you use about 2.25 tablespoons?

07-19-2005, 05:24 PM	#23
Cowbell Registered User Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Indiana Posts: 442	if you use the CEE from Bulk Nutrition you should only be using 1/4 a teaspoon (thats the smaller one )

07-19-2005, 07:45 PM	#24
chunky34 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 103	2.25 tablespoon ? Way too much of CEE. 1/3 of a tablespoon is roughly 3g so that's all you need if it is CEE.
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07-19-2005, 09:17 PM	#25
NeedMuscleMass Confused Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Long Island Posts: 240	lol.. that explains why it was so bad yesterday.. Thats going to make it much easier.. So how many teaspoons do you use? I feel much better now..

07-19-2005, 11:39 PM	#26
musclepump Celebrity PersonalTrainer Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,666 Photos: 128	It tastes like chalk. Deal with it.
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07-20-2005, 10:26 AM	#28
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