Thread: Questions on :Methyl 1 testosterone and 19-nor-4 androstene 3,17 dione

read up before you buy. Run a search for M1T, there is an abundance of info.

yes I read all the information, but I want an advice from guys who are in this forum and who can give me a personal advice. ANd not just a notice who explain me the side effects.

Do not take M1T if it is your first cycle. You can try 1-AD or 1-TEST, they have less sides and the effect is almost the same.

I had more gains with a cycle of 1-test than with m1t/4AD cycle. M1T lowered my HDL to the floor, it took me 2 months to get it up again, not to mention liver enzyme count.

If you are an alcohol drinker, do not take it. I would make a blood test before taking any pro-hormone or steroid.

I cant recommend 19-nor andro alone, it is better used in a stack.

Originally Posted by Shalio

yes I read all the information, but I want an advice from guys who are in this forum and who can give me a personal advice. ANd not just a notice who explain me the side effects.

So what are you actually asking?

If you are educated on this, I see no problem in taking M1T for the first cycle.

Well I think it's too complicated to take M1T when you are not familiar with steroids, I thought I couldn't take A pill per day durind three week and after that to stop. But as it mentioned in some articles on M1T, after your sycle you have to take novaldexand HCCG, it's pretty scary.


This is for that I think 19 nor 4 androstene 3,17 DIONE is maybe more safer, It takes more time to build muscle but you don't have to take all this prodduct after your cycle.

Tell me what you think about my opinion

i took m1t for my first cycle. it was fine. i didnt experience much for negative sides, but all the good effects were there. i used omega labs M1T.

Originally Posted by Shalio

Well I think it's too complicated to take M1T when you are not familiar with steroids, I thought I couldn't take A pill per day durind three week and after that to stop. But as it mentioned in some articles on M1T, after your sycle you have to take novaldexand HCCG, it's pretty scary.


This is for that I think 19 nor 4 androstene 3,17 DIONE is maybe more safer, It takes more time to build muscle but you don't have to take all this prodduct after your cycle.

Tell me what you think about my opinion

You still need PCT, post cycle thearpy, no matter what hormone you use. Novla is the best for any pro-hormone, no doubt. I have read some people using 6-oxo as PCT but its not nearly as effective for bringing your test up, and it doesnt have the gyno preventing effect of novla.

Thanks guys for all your answers!

But is there anybody who have instructions about how to use M1T included the number of Mg you have to take per day and when, included also the post cycle therapy with novaldex.??

Originally Posted by Shalio

Thanks guys for all your answers!

But is there anybody who have instructions about how to use M1T included the number of Mg you have to take per day and when, included also the post cycle therapy with novaldex.??

Its all over the boards, just search.

Or, read this:
Week 1- 5mg ED
Week 2- 10mg ED
Week 3 - 15mg ED
Week 4 - 15mg ED
Week 5 - 60mg Nolva ED
Week 6 - 40mg Nolva ED
Week 7 - 20mg Nolva ED

Only bump up your M1T as you feel comfortable, but id say no higher than 15mg ED.

I ran 30mg ed, a couple times. For some reason 15mg didn't do anything for me.
The only bothersome sides I had was lethargy (took ECA to counter) and lower back pain.
Nolvadex is easy to get and not too expensive, cheaper in fact than 6OXO so that is the preferred PCT.

Train a few more years before jumping into any drugs.