Essential supps?

ST240 · 09-11-2005, 07:40 PM

Getting back into the routine of class again and im ready to start training again. Ive got my diet and routine all planned out and im just figuring out the essential supps now. So far this is what i have:

-decent multi
-whey protein (obviously)
-Satur8 which is dicreatine malate i think..

Thats it for now. I was thinking of adding a BCAA stack or L-Glutamine or something. I tried glutamine once and didnt really notice much of anything except i think i lost a bit of weight in my wallet area. Perhaps i wasnt taking enough... Im just looking for things that i missed that will make a large impact on my training.

Thanks

Edit: Im talking non-hormonal supps here. Nothing like 1-AD, tribex or 1g test/400mg deca per week or anything like that

FishOrCutBait · 09-11-2005, 07:44 PM

BCAA's are my favorite as of lately.

ST240 · 09-12-2005, 04:46 PM

bump. cmon ppl

TheCurse · 09-12-2005, 04:54 PM

add the glut, 5g on waking, 5g after training.

ST240 · 09-13-2005, 04:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheCurse

add the glut, 5g on waking, 5g after training.

would you recommend a bcaa too or just the glutamine

TheCurse · 09-13-2005, 05:03 PM

never took bcaa's. heard good things about them though. guess i just too lazy to go buy some.

PreMier · 09-13-2005, 05:29 PM

BCAA's arent necissary unless you are seriously cutting(comp). You get plenty from your whey, and the meats you eat.

Glutamine IMO is bogus. There is no scientific proof that its helpful in someone that weight trains. Infact the only time I have seen a positive study, it was used on severe burn victims and it was takes intraveniously.

I wouldnt waste my money on either, it looks like you already have the basics.

FishOrCutBait · 09-13-2005, 05:32 PM

I like BCAA's...

PreMier · 09-13-2005, 05:36 PM

And why is that? What exactly are they doing for you? Can you really prove that they'er doing anything? I mean with all the foods, and supplements yoru taking, how can you accredit (whatever it is) to the BCAA's?

ST240 · 09-13-2005, 06:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PreMier

And why is that? What exactly are they doing for you? Can you really prove that they'er doing anything? I mean with all the foods, and supplements yoru taking, how can you accredit (whatever it is) to the BCAA's?

i was wondering the same thing.... now if you were talking about test i might agree with you

TheCurse · 09-13-2005, 06:28 PM

i suppose i dont have a double blind study to refer to, but in my years of working out, ive back slid almost as much as ive gained, and i notice when i am religous with my few supplements my gains seem to stick better.

but nothing will take the place of hard work and putting your time in.

TrojanMan60563 · 09-13-2005, 09:19 PM

I was taking glutamine at approx 40g per day....30g pure, and approx 10g in my whey shakes.....I stopped taking the glutamine for financial reasons, and I can notice a longer recovery time. I think it helped keep me healthy as I have been sick a lot since not taking it the past 10 months or so.

I feel glutamine works but only in large doses do you see any real gains from it. Basically if I had more money in the supplement budget I would be taking it still.

FishOrCutBait · 09-13-2005, 11:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PreMier

And why is that? What exactly are they doing for you? Can you really prove that they'er doing anything? I mean with all the foods, and supplements yoru taking, how can you accredit (whatever it is) to the BCAA's?

Because I added things in one at a time, I never started all at once. They have their place, mostly on a cut, which is what im doing now.

ST240 · 09-14-2005, 12:14 AM

ah k see with my metabolism i will be on a 5000 cal diet in a constant state of bulking until im 40. so i guess im out for the bcaas due to that and glutamine since im a poor ass student.

FishOrCutBait · 09-14-2005, 07:23 AM

Yeah, the BCAAS really wouldnt do you any good, your body is going to be getting more than enough. Glutamine is still cool, you dont really NEED to go as high a dose, IMO

TrojanMan60563 · 09-14-2005, 07:05 PM

I carry 215lbs of muscle on my 5'10" frame....I feel a normal dose of glutamine didn't do it for me....I didn't notice something until around 40g. I have read a lot saying that higher doses are better.

ST240 · 09-14-2005, 11:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TrojanMan60563

I carry 215lbs of muscle on my 5'10" frame....I feel a normal dose of glutamine didn't do it for me....I didn't notice something until around 40g. I have read a lot saying that higher doses are better.

ive heard the same thing

**dg806** · 09-15-2005, 10:43 AM

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09-11-2005, 07:40 PM	#1
ST240 ...And justice for all. Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Edmonton, AB, Canada Posts: 1,390	Essential supps? Getting back into the routine of class again and im ready to start training again. Ive got my diet and routine all planned out and im just figuring out the essential supps now. So far this is what i have: -decent multi -whey protein (obviously) -Satur8 which is dicreatine malate i think.. Thats it for now. I was thinking of adding a BCAA stack or L-Glutamine or something. I tried glutamine once and didnt really notice much of anything except i think i lost a bit of weight in my wallet area. Perhaps i wasnt taking enough... Im just looking for things that i missed that will make a large impact on my training. Thanks Edit: Im talking non-hormonal supps here. Nothing like 1-AD, tribex or 1g test/400mg deca per week or anything like that

09-11-2005, 07:44 PM	#2
FishOrCutBait lifts weights Elite Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Buffalo, MN Posts: 4,247 Blog Entries: 1 Photos: 2	BCAA's are my favorite as of lately.
	I believe in Jesus. "tried and true theory on one's self is probably the only non-biased proof that something works for someone." - juggernaut

09-12-2005, 04:54 PM	#4
TheCurse Barbell Ninja Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Dago Posts: 762 Photos: 5	add the glut, 5g on waking, 5g after training.
	Thread killer.

09-13-2005, 05:03 PM	#6
TheCurse Barbell Ninja Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Dago Posts: 762 Photos: 5	never took bcaa's. heard good things about them though. guess i just too lazy to go buy some.
	Thread killer.

09-13-2005, 05:29 PM	#7
PreMier happy sumo Elite Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 21,086 Photos: 2	BCAA's arent necissary unless you are seriously cutting(comp). You get plenty from your whey, and the meats you eat. Glutamine IMO is bogus. There is no scientific proof that its helpful in someone that weight trains. Infact the only time I have seen a positive study, it was used on severe burn victims and it was takes intraveniously. I wouldnt waste my money on either, it looks like you already have the basics.
	P-side Inc. "the post-workout high is more profound than any drug-induced rush imaginable." -Dante B.

09-12-2005, 04:46 PM	#3
ST240 ...And justice for all. Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Edmonton, AB, Canada Posts: 1,390	bump. cmon ppl

09-13-2005, 05:32 PM	#8
FishOrCutBait lifts weights Elite Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Buffalo, MN Posts: 4,247 Blog Entries: 1 Photos: 2	I like BCAA's...
	I believe in Jesus. "tried and true theory on one's self is probably the only non-biased proof that something works for someone." - juggernaut

09-13-2005, 05:36 PM	#9
PreMier happy sumo Elite Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 21,086 Photos: 2	And why is that? What exactly are they doing for you? Can you really prove that they'er doing anything? I mean with all the foods, and supplements yoru taking, how can you accredit (whatever it is) to the BCAA's?
	P-side Inc. "the post-workout high is more profound than any drug-induced rush imaginable." -Dante B.

09-13-2005, 06:28 PM	#11
TheCurse Barbell Ninja Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Dago Posts: 762 Photos: 5	i suppose i dont have a double blind study to refer to, but in my years of working out, ive back slid almost as much as ive gained, and i notice when i am religous with my few supplements my gains seem to stick better. but nothing will take the place of hard work and putting your time in.
	Thread killer.

09-13-2005, 09:19 PM	#12
TrojanMan60563 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: The U-S of A Posts: 2,963 Photos: 1	I was taking glutamine at approx 40g per day....30g pure, and approx 10g in my whey shakes.....I stopped taking the glutamine for financial reasons, and I can notice a longer recovery time. I think it helped keep me healthy as I have been sick a lot since not taking it the past 10 months or so. I feel glutamine works but only in large doses do you see any real gains from it. Basically if I had more money in the supplement budget I would be taking it still.

09-14-2005, 12:14 AM	#14
ST240 ...And justice for all. Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Edmonton, AB, Canada Posts: 1,390	ah k see with my metabolism i will be on a 5000 cal diet in a constant state of bulking until im 40. so i guess im out for the bcaas due to that and glutamine since im a poor ass student.

09-14-2005, 07:23 AM	#15
FishOrCutBait lifts weights Elite Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Buffalo, MN Posts: 4,247 Blog Entries: 1 Photos: 2	Yeah, the BCAAS really wouldnt do you any good, your body is going to be getting more than enough. Glutamine is still cool, you dont really NEED to go as high a dose, IMO
	I believe in Jesus. "tried and true theory on one's self is probably the only non-biased proof that something works for someone." - juggernaut

09-14-2005, 07:05 PM	#16
TrojanMan60563 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: The U-S of A Posts: 2,963 Photos: 1	I carry 215lbs of muscle on my 5'10" frame....I feel a normal dose of glutamine didn't do it for me....I didn't notice something until around 40g. I have read a lot saying that higher doses are better.

09-15-2005, 10:43 AM	#18
dg806 Guardian of The Homeland Super Moderator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Charlotte NC Posts: 17,269	http://www.ironmagazineforums.com/sh...Favorite+supps (Most effective/important supplement)
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