not to hijack the thread, but how much more effective would clen be than an ECY stack?
how good is clenbuterol for weightloss?
How many pounds per day can I expect to lose with 25 mcg a day,
I have never taken it b4 so I have no tolerance to it.
and how many pounds per week?
not to hijack the thread, but how much more effective would clen be than an ECY stack?
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it would be impossible for anyone to tell you how much weight you might lose on clen since your diet is going to be key to your weight loss success.
as for which is more effective clen or ecy - i think it's largely a matter of preference but since you should cycle off clen after 2 weeks you may as well use the ecy during that time and decide which you prefer
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Clen is crap IMO.......but when used with efedra its amazing.
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ECA is more effective, safer and can be used for much longer periodsOriginally Posted by cheesegrater
I train differently than most, my beef is with gravity the weights on the bar are just the medium...Thanks to Wall Street your slice of the American Pie has been reduced to a crumb.
I may use clen with ephedrine and lipo6 for 3 weeks then just
take lipo6 with ephedrine
well Im going to limit my caloric intake to 1000 calories a day, so I should lose good fat weight. The Ephedrine and synephrine will hold on to my muscle mass since there anti catabolic and vaso dilators.
A lot of these drugs either mimick or cause your body to produce naturally occuring substances. With the right mindset your body can produce these substances in significant enough quantities. Holding the image in your mind of how you want to look at all times will definately give your subconscious mind the blueprint needed to release all those hormones and give you the strength to build those muscles now.
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good idea if you want to be in and out of HOSPITALOriginally Posted by Nachez
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What?Originally Posted by Nachez
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Umm... I think you are horribly mistaken, my friend.
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ud be supprised guy, just taking ephedra int he old hydroxycut,
I ate only 700-800 cals a day got ripped and lost no muscle at all!!!!!!!!!!!!
u r mistaken!!!!!!!!


if you didn't lose any muscle then you had none to begin with...Originally Posted by Nachez
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so according to you the anti-catabolic effects of ephedra are stronger then trenbolone ?![]()
I train differently than most, my beef is with gravity the weights on the bar are just the medium...Thanks to Wall Street your slice of the American Pie has been reduced to a crumb.
pmsl!Originally Posted by LAM
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... Uh... I think you are again horribly mistaken. Ephedrine is for FAT LOSS, NOT BUILDING MUSCLE. Ephedrine is in no way anti-catabolic. Also, I am an asthmatic, and I recieve NO bronchiodilating effects, which I think you have confused with VASOdilation.Originally Posted by Nachez
Argh...
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I AGREE WITH ALL YOUR POSTSOriginally Posted by Nachez
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make sure to keep a record of all your cycles....e-mail them to me....I will write a book about it when its over
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hell if ur going to take tren during PCT why not add in some Meth?
that will definitely hold onto muscle.
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