Cutting supplements?

**Northernlights8** · 10-25-2005, 11:11 AM

alright i just finished my second cycle and wanted to know some good supplements for cutting. I also just finished my PCT. and now i want to cut up and still gain some muscle.

any ideas on whats the best out there?

thanks

**Northernlights8** · 10-25-2005, 11:58 AM

i read up on some of the post and ill prob be doing the caffeine, aspirin and ephedrine cut stack..

how long should i use this for, to not lose any muscle. i weigh 190 pounds.

3 weeks max?

**uhockey** · 10-25-2005, 05:41 PM

My recommendation in terms of legal products, and not only because I work for Designer, would be a stack of Basic Cuts and a product like Scivation's Sesamin or our Melting Point. Both sesamin and MP are non-stimulatory and can therefore be stacked with any thermogenic product. Additionally they are somewhat fat specific and thereby muscle sparring.

My recommendation for a thermo, since I don't particularly like ephedrine or yohimbine, is Basic Cuts as it is decently stimulating while also conducive to a feeling of wellbeing due to the PEA. MAN's Scorch, Omega's PowerJolt, and Primaforce Thermal Rage are all also good choices.

**juggernaut2005** · 10-25-2005, 07:00 PM

Originally Posted by uhockey

My recommendation in terms of legal products, and not only because I work for Designer, would be a stack of Basic Cuts and a product like Scivation's Sesamin or our Melting Point. Both sesamin and MP are non-stimulatory and can therefore be stacked with any thermogenic product. Additionally they are somewhat fat specific and thereby muscle sparring.

My recommendation for a thermo, since I don't particularly like ephedrine or yohimbine, is Basic Cuts as it is decently stimulating while also conducive to a feeling of wellbeing due to the PEA. MAN's Scorch, Omega's PowerJolt, and Primaforce Thermal Rage are all also good choices.

**Twin Peak** · 10-25-2005, 07:46 PM

Originally Posted by juggernaut2005

LOL. You showed him! Nice log on your sig, by the way.

**KentDog** · 10-25-2005, 09:04 PM

I personally didn't really like EC/ECA during my last cut, the stuff gave headaches and I didn't see any real difference using it in my opinion (minus more than normal sweating). I have heard good things about Sesamin/Sesathin.

You say you want to lose weight but also gain muscle? I am looking in to Avant Lab's LeptiGen Mass, which a friend of mine swears by, although I think it has just been discontinued. He says it will be released in about a month as SyntheSIZE. This stuff is supposed to be good for lean bulking.

**uhockey** · 10-26-2005, 01:15 PM

Originally Posted by juggernaut2005

You ask a lot of Qs and post a lot of those cute little

guys, but I don't see much validity or science to back up your insults. I answered a question and provided valid options. Any time you wish to discuss your opinions, please feel free to post more....

**TJ Cline** · 10-26-2005, 01:18 PM

Originally Posted by Northernlights8

Hey guys im new to the site and need some info, I search everywhere and could not find what i needed to know!

Im 19 weigh 155 pounds and im 5'11"

i started working out about 4 months ago and have gained a good 10 pounds of muscle mass. I have come to the point of taking winstrol and test.

Randy

**Prince** · 10-26-2005, 02:08 PM

Originally Posted by Northernlights8

alright i just finished my second cycle and wanted to know some good supplements for cutting. I also just finished my PCT. and now i want to cut up and still gain some muscle.

any ideas on whats the best out there?

thanks

I use Lean Fuel Extreme stacked with 25 mg of ephedra taken twice per day.

**juggernaut2005** · 10-26-2005, 02:48 PM

Originally Posted by Twin Peak

LOL. You showed him! Nice log on your sig, by the way.

yeah man... Im going strong on SD and feeling good! No gyno! no back pumps.. I feel stronger, more positive!! a little agressive...

Im thinking of going to 20mg starting from 10-28...
GGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG

**Northernlights8** · 10-26-2005, 03:49 PM

Originally Posted by Robert DiMaggio

I use Lean Fuel Extreme stacked with 25 mg of ephedra taken twice per day.

how much did you pay for your Lean Fuel Extreme and what amount are you taking, also ephedra is same as ephedrine right?

if so where to get that E...i tried at some stores but they keep showing me the mixed solution which i do not want.....

Randy

**Northernlights8** · 10-26-2005, 03:50 PM

Originally Posted by ForemanRules

yea i weigh 190 after my second cycle dip shit...

so fuck off...

**NEW_IN_THE_GAME** · 10-26-2005, 03:55 PM

i buy my ephedrine either at my local shell stations, or at bulk nutrition.com they both are the same brand name. at bulk nutrition you can see how others used it and there results, just look for biotek products then ephedrine and check out the reviews.

**Prince** · 10-26-2005, 04:42 PM

Originally Posted by Northernlights8

how much did you pay for your Lean Fuel Extreme and what amount are you taking, also ephedra is same as ephedrine right?

if so where to get that E...i tried at some stores but they keep showing me the mixed solution which i do not want.....

Randy

oops, I meant ephedrine.

As far as Lean Fuel Extreme, it is made by me so....

You can get it at Bodybuilding.com for $24.99 (1 bottle is a 2 month supply)
www.bodybuilding.com/store/imag/fuel.html

**Northernlights8** · 10-26-2005, 11:12 PM

Originally Posted by Robert DiMaggio

oops, I meant ephedrine.

As far as Lean Fuel Extreme, it is made by me so....

You can get it at Bodybuilding.com for $24.99 (1 bottle is a 2 month supply)
www.bodybuilding.com/store/imag/fuel.html

im gong to try out ur LFE and ehpedrine... i trust you since you are a true body builder!!

preciate the honesty and liablity..

Randy

**FishOrCutBait** · 10-29-2005, 10:23 AM

Hook line and sinker.

Not to say your stuff is crap, I know it's not, but that was just too easy, lol.

**Prince** · 10-29-2005, 12:14 PM

Originally Posted by FishOrCutBait

Hook line and sinker.

Not to say your stuff is crap, I know it's not, but that was just too easy, lol.

maybe, but I am a real person that bodybuilds and I use my own supplements, in fact I make supplemnts that I think are worthwhile for a bodybuilder to use. I am not some huge, no face corporation producing crap just too make money.

**juggernaut2005** · 10-29-2005, 01:40 PM

Originally Posted by Robert DiMaggio

maybe, but I am a real person that bodybuilds and I use my own supplements, in fact I make supplemnts that I think are worthwhile for a bodybuilder to use. I am not some huge, no face corporation producing crap just too make money.

damn you must be rich

what type of car do you have?

**uhockey** · 10-29-2005, 02:09 PM

Originally Posted by Robert DiMaggio

I am not some huge, no face corporation producing crap just too make money.

Nor are we. IMO, it's fine to promote something you believe in. Whether you're with the company or it's simply something you use, if you aren't bullshitting, then speak your mind.

**juggernaut2005** · 10-29-2005, 03:29 PM

hmm Im gonna need a non stim fat burner after my sd cycle.. probably something with cortisol blocker? that available in Lextreme?

**Nate K** · 10-29-2005, 04:14 PM

I second that question...anyone reccomed a good non-stim fat burner?

**Twin Peak** · 10-29-2005, 04:25 PM

Our Lean Xtreme is ideal post-cycle as it is a cortisol controller/reducer. It likewise has indirect fat-loss effects.

Melting Point is probably the most effective non-stimulating fat-burner on the market. However, I hope that you are not considering cutting immediately after your SD cycle, but rather you are referring to post post-cycle.

**TJ Cline** · 10-29-2005, 04:41 PM

Originally Posted by Northernlights8

yea i weigh 190 after my second cycle dip shit...

so fuck off...

Originally Posted by Northernlights8

Hey guys im new to the site and need some info, I search everywhere and could not find what i needed to know!

Im 19 weigh 155 pounds and im 5'11"

i started working out about 4 months ago and have gained a good 10 pounds of muscle mass. I have come to the point of taking winstrol and test.

Randy

Need to know intake of calories for steroid use!

**Northernlights8** · 10-29-2005, 04:43 PM

foreman dont you realize you are the only one bashing this thread?

why? theres no point.

the only post u made were a highlighted statment of me like 16 weeks ago...

Its not that funny. Leave the shit in the past and go to another thread that needs your help, not one to flame or bash about.

**TJ Cline** · 10-29-2005, 04:44 PM

Click on the thread I posted..........................everyone is bashing you

**Northernlights8** · 10-29-2005, 04:47 PM

ok thats a diff thread...

holy shit dude. I asked about a cutting supplement.. this has nothing to do with steroids.

Stop being an attention whore and go whore in some other thread.

**uhockey** · 10-29-2005, 05:41 PM

Originally Posted by Twin Peak

Our Lean Xtreme is ideal post-cycle as it is a cortisol controller/reducer. It likewise has indirect fat-loss effects.

Melting Point is probably the most effective non-stimulating fat-burner on the market. However, I hope that you are not considering cutting immediately after your SD cycle, but rather you are referring to post post-cycle.

I'll agree with Steve on both aspects. Your ideal method for PCT from SD should be a good AI plus Nolva if necessary and a good cortisol blocker like Lean Xtreme. The writeups on our site detail the protocol. Obviously we could say the NHA stack (RXT+ActivaTe) would be perfect for your PCT as well.

Post PCT is when you would look at Melting Point and possibly a stimulant thermo if necessary to shed that excess BF.

**juggernaut2005** · 10-29-2005, 06:01 PM

Originally Posted by Twin Peak

Our Lean Xtreme is ideal post-cycle as it is a cortisol controller/reducer. It likewise has indirect fat-loss effects.

Melting Point is probably the most effective non-stimulating fat-burner on the market. However, I hope that you are not considering cutting immediately after your SD cycle, but rather you are referring to post post-cycle.

hmm see thats the thing.. I took SD to keep my str up while I lost fat.. I didnt use it to bulk (or I am not using it to bulk

) I know SD is best for bulking.. but so far its helping me loose fat (which is my ultimate goal)... so when I get off SD I hope to be down a few lbs of fat while retaining the muscles I have already

**Twin Peak** · 10-30-2005, 06:51 PM

Yeah, that is fine. But when you come off of SD, you will still need a solid post-cycle protocol, which should include at least maintenance calories for a few weeks, before you resume your diet. Or else the muscle will be the first to go.

**juggernaut2005** · 10-31-2005, 06:37 AM

Originally Posted by Twin Peak

Yeah, that is fine. But when you come off of SD, you will still need a solid post-cycle protocol, which should include at least maintenance calories for a few weeks, before you resume your diet. Or else the muscle will be the first to go.

lol damn.. whats th epoint of using stuff when the muscle vanishes right after

I dont want my love handles to come out again (they've vanished

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