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    If I use the stack at half the "norm" - ie 10 Eph + 100 Caff - will it still work?

    if not, why is 20 Eph + 200 Caff the "magic" combination?

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    just try it your body will tell you, everybody is different, I started my eca stack today for the 1st time- typicaly in the past I've been partial to lipo 6 but I figured I'd give this a try. I will say I like it better allready, I took my 1st dose at 6am and its now 12:45 my time and I still am just looking for somthing to do my energy levels are nuts. I was going to do a 3 dose a day cycle but I'm thinking maybe 2 will do it for me; but that doesn't mean it'll be the same for you ie: same mg same amount of doses, I personally didn't think it would effect me like it has being I've alway been taking one thermo or another, I thought I would have a better tollerance but I'm not complaining. Right now I'm taking 25mg eph, 200mg caf,325 asp. Best advice would be take the 1/2 dose like you want and see how your body respondes and make your judgement from there for future doses.

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    yeah

    I've used it previously at 20eph+ 200 caff levels + it worked great, no probs. I'm just curious as to whether half the dose would be just as effective, but with only half the sides?

    On the subject of Lipo-6 - I tried this product a coupla weeks back and it had some bad sexual sides for me - the 1st day on it, I had some serious boners going on, but then the 2 weeks after that, I couldnt get a boner, so I dumped my bottle of Lipo down the toilet!

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    what sides are you experience from ephedrine? it takes me a few days before i become completely used to it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stu
    what sides are you experience from ephedrine? it takes me a few days before i become completely used to it
    for me its just been buzzing around constantly having to be doing something- a high energy side? But I wouldn't really call that a bad side. Especially this morning (I'm not a morning person) i took the stack and 20min later I felt like it was high noon!

    I'm actually a little dissapointed in myself that I didn't try it earlier, I always thought it was too simple to be true I guess-boy I feel like an idiot Well see about the fat burning in the future but the energy is the most important to me I'll just continue to rely on diet for the fat. Anyway enough rambling.

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    sides

    sides for me on EC :-

    1. Always makes me need to take a dump about 2 minutes after taking it
    2. sometimes makes me feel a bit detatched and paranoid at the gym
    3. sometimes makes me really ratty
    4. kills my sex drive and effects my boners (not appreciated by Mrs Ian!!)
    5. lessens my concentration

    benefits:-

    1. eats fat like nothing else!
    2. loads of added energy for cardio
    3. makes me "feel" leaner (weird, but true for me)
    4. makes me feel more confident/chatty

    A weird and wonderful combination isn't it?!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ian
    sides for me on EC :-

    1. Always makes me need to take a dump about 2 minutes after taking it
    2. sometimes makes me feel a bit detatched and paranoid at the gym
    3. sometimes makes me really ratty
    4. kills my sex drive and effects my boners (not appreciated by Mrs Ian!!)
    5. lessens my concentration

    benefits:-

    1. eats fat like nothing else!
    2. loads of added energy for cardio
    3. makes me "feel" leaner (weird, but true for me)
    4. makes me feel more confident/chatty

    A weird and wonderful combination isn't it?!!
    Interesting I'll have to make some notes of differences as I go on with this stack, I can relate to the confident/chatty side- I talked enough to be a used car sales man yesterday, it did the oposite as far as the laxitive side I'm typically good for 2 throne visits a day and yesterday I didn't go at all, however for about 30min I did notice some stomach pains like "bad mexican food" type pains. I did notice I had no appetite at all though; I still ate at the times I do I everyday but it kind of felt like I had to force it down it was like trying to eat when you're allready full. And last but not least in comparrison the sex drive- seemed to be right on track last night The only other thing I noticed, which I expected, was a raise in my resting heart rate- 31bpm more than with out the stack; that stayed consistant for almost 5hrs then in the 6th hr it decreased pretty rapidly. When I took Lipo 6 religiously that only raised my rate about 14 more bpm.....interesting.

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    OH another thing I noticed was a little dehydration, I usually take in 2-3 liters of water a day and yester day I put away 4 easily. I actually went from a liter bottle I usually carry to going and getting a 2 liter.

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