Halodrol By Gaspari

brokeass122 · 11-30-2005, 09:28 PM

So I just wanted to see what everyone thought about this stuff called halodrol, by gaspari nutrition other than the price which i know is high. What im looking for is has anyone tried it yet, what are the sides, and what are the gains if any?
O and also i read the box but it dosent say anything about a 17alpha in the chemical name, so is it or isnt it?

any help will be appreciated

musclepump · 11-30-2005, 10:31 PM

Yet another product trying to make some profit by sounding like a real drug.

brogers · 12-01-2005, 10:34 AM

Supposedly it is quite similar to Oral Turinabol.

JACKED · 12-01-2005, 10:55 AM

Sounds too much like "Halodol" the psychotropic used in LOONEY BINS.

Spend that money at the grocery store. Meat works better. When you grow up enough spend it on gear & groceries then you're getting somewhere.

Tha Don · 12-01-2005, 11:47 AM

it is a designer steroid, so in the same boat as m1t and SD

a bit more info on it..

Quote:

This Is What Is In Halodrol-50

Rich gave me the 'green light' to reveal what is in it. So I am and then I am done answering questions. Do your own research after this.

Halodrol 50 = 4-chlorodehydromethylandrost-4-ene-3,17b-diol; 50mg per tablet.

Happy now? It's a derivative of Oral Turinabol (the 3 hydroxyl variant).

It is halogenated like the box reads (4-chloro).

It is dehydrogenated (DB's at 1 and 4).

It is polyhydroxylated (hydroxyls at 3 and 17b)

It is methylated (C17a).

The description on the box was DEAD on correct friend, see?

It's effects are very similar and it's side effects very similar to Oral Turinabol.

I clipped this off the net about OT (it is a good comparator to what you can expect from H-50l I did not write this but I did edit some of it) -

Oral-Turinabol is an oral steroid which was developed during the early 1960's.

OT has a predominantly anabolic effect which is combined with a relatively low androgenic component. On a scale of 1 to 100 the androgenic effect is very low -only a 6- and the anabolic effect is 53. (In comparison: the androgenic effect of Dianabol is 45 and its anabolic effect is 90.) Oral-Turinabol thus has milligram for milli-gram a lower effect than Dianabol. It is therefore not a steroid that causes a rapid gain in strength, weight, and muscle mass. Rather, the achievable results manifest themselves in a solid muscle gain and, if taken over several weeks, also in a good strength gain. The athlete will certainly not get a puffy look as is the case with Test-osterone, Dianabol, and Anadrol 50. The maximum blood concen-tration of Oral-Turinabol when taking 10, 20 or 40 mg/day is 1.5 -3.5 or 4.5 times the endogenous testosterone concentration (also see Dianabol). This clearly shows that the effectiveness of this compound strongly depends on the dosage.

An athlete weighing 200 pounds would take only 4 tablets of 5 mg (20mg/day.) In our experience bodybuilders take 8-10 tablets of 5 mg, that is 40-50 mg/day. Many enthusiastically report good results with this dosage: one builds a solid muscle mass, the strength gain is worthwhile seeing, the water retention is very low, and the estrogen-caused side effects are rare. Not without good reason OT is also popular among powerlifters and weightlifters who appreciate these characteristics.

Due to its characteristics OT is also a suitable steroid both for men and women in competitions. A usually very effective stack for male bodybuilders consists of 50 mg OT/day, 228 mg Parabolan/week, and 150 mg Winstrol Depot/week. Those who have brought their body fat content to a low level by dieting and/or by using fatburning substances (e.g. Clenbuterol, Ephedrine, Salbutamol, Cytomel, Triacana), will find that the above steroid combination will manifest itself in hard, sharply-defined but still dense and full muscles. No enlarged breasts, no estrogen surplus, and no watery, puffy-look-ing muscle system. If OT were available on the U.S. black market for steroids, bodybuilders, powerlifters, and weightlifters would go crazy for this East German anabolic.

OT enjoys a great popularity since it is quickly broken down by the body and the metabolites are excreted relatively quickly through the urine. The often-posed question regarding how many days before a test OT can be taken in order to be "clean" is difficult to answer specifically or in general. We know from a reliable source that athletes who only take OT as a steroid and who, in part, take dosages of 10- 15 tablets/day, have discontinued the com-pound exactly five days before a doping test and tested negative. These indications are supported by the fact that even positive urine analyses have rarely mentioned the names Oral-Turinabol or
chlordehydromethyltestosterone.

The potential side effects of OT usually depend on the dosage level and are gender-specific. in women, depending on their predisposition, the usual virilization symptoms occur and increase when dosages of more than 20 mg per day are taken over a prolonged time. In men the already discussed reduced testosterone production can rarely be avoided. Gynecomastia occurs rarely with OT Since the response of the water and electrolyte household is not overly distinct athletes only rarely report water retention and high blood pressure. Acne, gastrointestinal pain, and uncontrolled aggressive behavior are also the exception rather than the rule with OT An increased libido is reported in most cases by both sexes. Since the substance chlordehydromethyltestosterone is 17-alpha alkylated the manufacturer in its package insert recommends that the liver function be checked regularly since it can be negatively affected by high dosages and the risk of possible liver damage cannot be excluded. Thus OT is also a steroid that can be taken without interruption for long intervals. Studies of male athletes who over a period of six weeks were given 10 mg OT/day did not show any indications of health-threatening effects.

There you have it. It is very similar to OT And if any idiot says it "needs to be converted to be effective" they are talking out there ass. Yeah, a 3-ketone is needed (as is a 17b hydroxyl) to bind to the AR well but because it is a methylated compound and is resistant to metabolization, this is not an issue.

Remember, 1-AD was a 3,17b diol and it worked well. So did 4-AD and Methyl-4AD.

H-50 is a good, clean, effective compound.

I am done posting, this has given me a headache.

BK

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showpo...&postcount=204

JACKED · 12-01-2005, 11:58 AM

Do remember boys, On paper EVERYTHING looks GREAT even certain cycles.
But are they really great?

brokeass122 · 12-01-2005, 06:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JACKED

Sounds too much like "Halodol" the psychotropic used in LOONEY BINS.

Spend that money at the grocery store. Meat works better. When you grow up enough spend it on gear & groceries then you're getting somewhere.

Hey dude i was just wondering why did you make this comment, does this comment in any way shape or form help answer my question. No it does not. Second im pretty grown right now just looking for information on a new product, because i run a supplement store.

so if your not going to help me out leave your waste of time comments in somone elses thread

velikimajmun · 12-02-2005, 11:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JACKED

Do remember boys, On paper EVERYTHING looks GREAT even certain cycles.
But are they really great?

It really doesn't even look that good on paper.

**gopro** · 12-02-2005, 02:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brokeass122

So I just wanted to see what everyone thought about this stuff called halodrol, by gaspari nutrition other than the price which i know is high. What im looking for is has anyone tried it yet, what are the sides, and what are the gains if any?
O and also i read the box but it dosent say anything about a 17alpha in the chemical name, so is it or isnt it?

any help will be appreciated

Yes it is methylated and thus liver toxic. It is a chemical cross between Turinabol and Halotestin, but closer to Turinabol. Should provide solid gains to the tune of 6-8 lbs in 4 weeks, but as always, results vary.

My opinion is that it is toxic along the same lines as Halotestin or Anadrol, thus it should be used for VERY short cycles (if at all), and with excellent liver care afterwards.

**Pirate!** · 12-02-2005, 02:34 PM

That's interesting, because people are using Tbol for 6 weeks under the assumption that it only about as harsh on the liver as Dbol. Halodrol may be worse, though.

Tha Don · 12-02-2005, 03:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PirateFromHell

That's interesting, because people are using Tbol for 6 weeks under the assumption that it only about as harsh on the liver as Dbol. Halodrol may be worse, though.

i've heard OT is a lot milder than the likes of anadrol and halo, not as mild as anavar, but probably somewhere between that and say dbol

you'd prob get away with 6 weeks on it, obviously not sure about the halodrol, but if it is a halotestin derivative i'd be very careful with it

**Pirate!** · 12-02-2005, 04:20 PM

Quote:

http://msnbc.msn.com/id/10258597/

Steroids detected in dietary supplement
Some contents contain drug linked to 2 of biggest doping scandals in history

By Amy Shipley
Washington Post
Updated: 12:02 a.m. ET Nov. 30, 2005

A dietary supplement marketed to fitness and health enthusiasts on the Internet and in body-building shops contains anabolic steroids linked to two of the biggest doping scandals in sports history, including the renowned case involving East German Olympic athletes in the 1960s and '70s, according to a prominent researcher.

The supplement, which is sold under the name Halodrol-50, contains a steroid that closely resembles Oral-Turinabol, the principal steroid used to fuel East Germany's secret, systematic sports doping program, according to Don Catlin of the UCLA Olympic Analytical Laboratory.

Catlin said it also contains DMT, or madol, a steroid federal authorities say was developed for Bay Area Laboratory Co-operative (BALCO), the California nutritional supplement company at the center of a scheme to provide prominent professional athletes with undetectable performance-enhancing drugs.

Catlin analyzed the makeup of Halodrol-50 for The Washington Post, which purchased the product on the Internet and reimbursed the Los Angeles researcher for the cost of the testing.

The discovery provides further evidence that the country's multimillion-dollar dietary supplements industry also has become a clearinghouse for the distribution of anabolic steroids, which help build muscle and speed recovery from strenuous exercise but also can cause serious health problems when used in excess.

Last month, Catlin tested five other dietary supplements obtained by The Post and found that each contained anabolic steroids, four of which had not been previously detected. The Food and Drug Administration announced after publication of The Post's story on Oct. 18 that it had opened an investigation into the four companies marketing them.

An FDA spokeswoman said yesterday that the investigation is continuing. The official declined further comment.

It is illegal to sell anabolic steroids or any unapproved drugs as dietary supplements.

Halodrol-50, which costs $50 to $80 for a bottle of 30 tablets, is marketed by Gaspari Nutrition, a dietary supplements company based in Neptune, N.J., that sells bodybuilding and weight-loss products. Halodrol-50 claims on its label to "induce maximal visible changes in size and strength in the shortest period of time possible." It also recommends that the product not be used by anyone under age 21.

The Halodrol-50 label further states that it contains polydehydrogenated, polyhydroxylated halomethetioallocholane. Catlin described that chemical descriptor as "hocus-pocus." He said the language was outdated and vague and appeared to be deliberately misleading. The label makes no mention of DMT or other anabolic steroids.

"It's obfuscation," Catlin said. "There is no attempt to be clear and concise and to describe the product for what it is."

Rich Gaspari, owner of Gaspari Nutrition, did not respond to two requests for an interview made by telephone to associates at his company. He also did not respond to two e-mail requests for comment.

However, Bruce Kneller, a consultant to Gaspari, wrote in an e-mail late yesterday that he had spoken to Gaspari and was conveying a comment on Gaspari's behalf. "The product . . . was discontinued several weeks ago after the publication of an inflammatory article in The Washington Post," Kneller said, referring to the Oct. 18 Post story. "It is no longer made or sold by Gaspari Nutrition and, in fact, was only available for less than three weeks."

Though Halodrol-50 is no longer available on the Gaspari Nutrition Web site, the product continues to be marketed on other Web sites that sell bodybuilding substances.

In an e-mail sent by a Gaspari official to a distributor, which was provided to The Post, the Gaspari official said Halodrol-50 and another product called Orastan E no longer advertised on Gaspari's Web site would continue to be sold to good customers. The Gaspari official added that he hoped "the government and media will ignore us and think we got rid of them," focusing instead on the "other companies."

Oral-Turinabol anchored the secretive doping program in communist East Germany that led to that country's emergence as an Olympic power three decades ago, according to classified documents uncovered in 1990 following the fall of the Berlin Wall. At the 1976 Summer Games in Montreal, East German women won 11 of the 13 swimming events. But the side effects from the massive doses of steroids administered to the East German competitors were as remarkable as the athletes' successes. Women developed excessive body hair, deepened voices, massive shoulders and male secondary sex characteristics.

Criminal trials in 2000 resulted in the convictions of East Germany's Olympic president and chief sports doctor, but a number of former athletes are still grappling with medical, legal and psychological issues related to the doping program.

One of the two steroids found in Halodrol-50, Catlin said, more closely resembles Oral-Turinabol than any other known steroid, but the two are not identical in structure. The steroid would be undetectable in standard drug tests because it is not an exact match with Oral-Turinabol.

"This is an unknown," Catlin said. "If I had to pick one it's ever so close to, it's Oral Turinabol. . . . It's very close."

Athletes taking Halodrol-50 would flunk standard sport drug tests, however, because DMT -- which Catlin identified more than a year ago -- is now detectable. DMT was one of three steroids found associated with BALCO. The others were norbolethone and THG, also known as "the clear."

The FDA is investigating four other dietary supplement companies named in the Oct. 18 story in which The Post reported that Catlin had found anabolic steroids in five products produced by four companies: Anabolic Xtreme, Applied Lifescience Research Industries, Legal Gear and PharmaGenX. The story led Rep. Thomas M. Davis III (R-Va.) to demand that the FDA explain its efforts to ensure that dietary supplements did not contain steroids. The FDA said in a Nov. 7 letter to Davis that the companies could face punitive action.

© 2005 The Washington Post Company

Tha Don · 12-03-2005, 10:20 AM

now we know why designer supplements branded all of there designer roids under the 'anabolic extreme' brand, i'm guessing anabolic extreme will just disappear now and designer supps will get away with it scott free, i doubt gaspari are going to be as fortunate

Twin Peak · 12-03-2005, 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by young d

now we know why designer supplements branded all of there designer roids under the 'anabolic extreme' brand, i'm guessing anabolic extreme will just disappear now and designer supps will get away with it scott free, i doubt gaspari are going to be as fortunate

You misunderstand. Anabolic Xtreme is a completely different entity, with completely different owners.

P.S. Eric, haven't seen you around much. You still with VPX?

camarosuper6 · 12-03-2005, 12:39 PM

Not to change the subject, but TP, the article on avant labs about Nizoral was great.... worked like a charm too!

Tha Don · 12-03-2005, 12:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Twin Peak

You misunderstand. Anabolic Xtreme is a completely different entity, with completely different owners.

P.S. Eric, haven't seen you around much. You still with VPX?

yeah, but designer supplements helped set the company up and sold them the rights to supderdrol didn't they? just like avant labs created dermabolics

Twin Peak · 12-03-2005, 12:57 PM

Didn't see it actually.

You know I am no longer with AL yes? Haven't been since March.

Twin Peak · 12-03-2005, 12:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by young d

yeah, but designer supplements helped set the company up and sold them the rights to supderdrol didn't they? just like avant labs created dermabolics

Not quite, no.

We didn't "help" set them up. We simply licensed them the trademark name Superdrol, and gave them info on the compound. We didn't buy it for them, manufacture it, etc.

camarosuper6 · 12-03-2005, 03:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Twin Peak

Didn't see it actually.

You know I am no longer with AL yes? Haven't been since March.

Oh, I didnt know. If you dont mind me asking, what happened?

Twin Peak · 12-03-2005, 08:27 PM

Nothing "happened."

Caleb and I had a bit of a different vision at the time, and we had collectively become a bit stagnant. At the same time, Matt and I had exactly the same vision. It was simply a matter of timing and fit.

topolo · 12-04-2005, 02:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Twin Peak

At the same time, Matt and I had exactly the same vision.

Does Matt like dressing up as a school girl and getting spamked as well?

**gopro** · 12-04-2005, 11:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Twin Peak

You misunderstand. Anabolic Xtreme is a completely different entity, with completely different owners.

P.S. Eric, haven't seen you around much. You still with VPX?

Been ridiculously busy. Nope, no longer with VPX. We parted ways about a month ago.

Hope you are well TP!

11-30-2005, 09:28 PM	#1
brokeass122 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: california Posts: 177	Halodrol By Gaspari So I just wanted to see what everyone thought about this stuff called halodrol, by gaspari nutrition other than the price which i know is high. What im looking for is has anyone tried it yet, what are the sides, and what are the gains if any? O and also i read the box but it dosent say anything about a 17alpha in the chemical name, so is it or isnt it? any help will be appreciated

11-30-2005, 10:31 PM	#2
musclepump Celebrity PersonalTrainer Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,664 Photos: 128	Yet another product trying to make some profit by sounding like a real drug.
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12-01-2005, 10:34 AM	#3
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12-01-2005, 10:55 AM	#4
JACKED Registered User Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 202 Photos: 11	Sounds too much like "Halodol" the psychotropic used in LOONEY BINS. Spend that money at the grocery store. Meat works better. When you grow up enough spend it on gear & groceries then you're getting somewhere.
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JACKED Registered User Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 202 Photos: 11	Do remember boys, On paper EVERYTHING looks GREAT even certain cycles. But are they really great?
	Been in the lab refurbishing. Foundation is finished and building upwards.

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Tha Don Registered User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Nottingham, England Posts: 3,826 Photos: 33	now we know why designer supplements branded all of there designer roids under the 'anabolic extreme' brand, i'm guessing anabolic extreme will just disappear now and designer supps will get away with it scott free, i doubt gaspari are going to be as fortunate

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