That was an interesting article, I wonder how it would affect other supplements.
just curious on what some of the vetern's thoughts were here...
avoid caffeine all together (no e/c stack or coffee ect) while taking creatine
I've read a few other articles on this and I didn't know how detrimental it was to take both, kind of makes me think I've been litterally pissing my creatine away. Oh well new beginings time to shelf the e/c stack.
http://www.illpumpyouup.com/articles...n-creatine.htm
Last edited by Curlingcadys; 12-06-2005 at 04:46 PM.

That was an interesting article, I wonder how it would affect other supplements.
I personally see no problems with it, but I am not a dr. or professional
hopfully somebody with a little more insight can shed some light, I'd like to keep taking the e/c stack just cause I love the energy boost but for now I'll stop so when my resupply of cee gets here I wont be waisting it, at least thats what I'm convinced to believe right now.
I do know if you look hard enough depending on who wrote the article, that there are mixed opinions on this. Just like there are many opinions on the following:
Is glutamine worth supplementing for bodybuilding purposes?
Is a loading phase necessary when taking creatine?
When is the best time to take creatine, before or after training?
Should creatine be cycled?
You get the point..........................Good luck bro!

But, unlike so many other studies, this one used a double-blind setup. Though the sampling set was a bit too small.Originally Posted by icanrace
I must agree![]()
I just read the artilce and see that they gave them 400mg of caffiene, thats a big dose! If you arent used to it then thats gonna make your heart rate increase significantly this can reduce your performance in the gym. They should of done the study for a longer period IMO to allow the subjects a chance to get used to the caffiene.
It was interesting that the levels of creatine absortion where unaffected by caffiene many studies before often conclude that caffience effects the bodies ability to absorb creatine, in this study that is not the case.
You have to remeber that caffiene itsef is a great performance enhancer. A couple of my powerlifting buddies love caffiene pre workout for a training boost if they had to pick between caffiene and creatine they would pick caffiene everytime. Like i said i cant really explain scientifically so i just go with what i know.
good feedback guys here's what I'm going to do being I buy cee in bulk and not shelling out a bunch of cash for it I'm gonna run a "self test" I went back on my e/c stack and I'm taking the cee, I'm going to continue to do take them both for 3 weeks, then at 3 weeks I'm going to drop the e/c and just take the cee for another three,keep a log, and see if there is much difference. Then we could have an idea but still if there is a difference the statement could still stand that our bodies aren't the same so results could vary person to person but at least we could have a general idea. Sound good?
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