Thread: best fat burner

how about cleaning up your diet to start? the better your diet, the leaner your mid-section. with ephedra off the market, most fat burners have taken a turn to crap. the only thing i'd recommend is Yohimbine HCL stacked with caffeine tabs.

can anyone recomend a good fat burner?

Seriously....diet and exercise. Most thermals aren't that great and the ones loaded with caffeine can cause wild migraines or dehydrate the shit out of you (so drink a lot of extra water and lay off coffee and sodas) or both.

obviously diet comes first...

my biased recommendation is: www.bodybuilding.com/store/imag/fuel.html

with ephedra off the market

In the States yes....ephedra is actually really good natural supp for allergy suffer's however with all its "other" uses it will only be a matter of time before it gets yanked in the Great White North as well unfortunately. So, if you live up North (read Canada), you can still put together your own ECA stack....but I wouldn't recommend that....better off manipulating your metabolism through diet cardio and weights.

you can still buy ephedrine

Originally Posted by Robert DiMaggio

you can still buy ephedrine

indeed you can, there will always be places to buy it. i feel it is a wonderful supplement for fat lose if taken responsibly and along with the correct diet. Diet is everything. There are no Wonder pills.! Giddy up.

BUFFALO..

e/c/a stack, best supplement made for it for the price

I like VPX Redline and/or Jet Fuel by German American Technologies. They both actually WORK and don't contain Ephedra. But nothing beats good old ephedrine.

I know diet comes first. All I eat now is fruit, salads, and lean meat. Along with my supplements. I just couldn't find any fat burner that looked good to me.

Melting Point IMO is the best fat burner I've ever used but it has sides that some can't take. 2nd choice is ECA but I mainly use that for stimulant not so much fat burning.

Damn, I always read these "best fat burner" threads hoping maybe some finally invented the magic pill we have all been waiting for.

I used Hot Rox and green tea extract with some decent success.

E/C is a pretty standard thermogenic that many people like. I'd definitely recommend adding Fish Oil and Green Tea Extract to any thermogenic. I'd also recommend throwing SesaThin into the mix for a non-stimulating addition to a fat loss stack, though you can read and decide for yourself if you like:

http://magazine.mindandmuscle.net/ma...=32&pageID=390

fish oil for fat burning? Weird. I use it for my daily fat intake, with flax and good old peanut butter (natty style of course!_.

Originally Posted by juggernaut

fish oil for fat burning? Weird. I use it for my daily fat intake, with flax and good old peanut butter (natty style of course!_.

Yep. Good fats are good fats, whether bulking or cutting, but fish oil/SesaThin can be especially good while cutting since they both activate PPAR-alpha, which increases the number of peroxisomes (fat burning units in the cell) along with promoting healthy cholesterol and decreasing inflammation. Fish Oil is good stuff.

Originally Posted by Coprolith

Yep. Good fats are good fats, whether bulking or cutting, but fish oil/SesaThin can be especially good while cutting since they both activate PPAR-alpha, which increases the number of peroxisomes (fat burning units in the cell) along with promoting healthy cholesterol and decreasing inflammation. Fish Oil is good stuff.

I agree, fatty acids are good stuff!

i'm taking the stuff just for fats-i didnt know this other stuff even existed. Any stickies that I can read about this?

Originally Posted by juggernaut

i'm taking the stuff just for fats-i didnt know this other stuff even existed. Any stickies that I can read about this?

Read the article about EFAs.
Guide to Cutting, Bulking & Maintenance

Originally Posted by juggernaut

i'm taking the stuff just for fats-i didnt know this other stuff even existed. Any stickies that I can read about this?

I'm not sure if Robert is cool with having other links in here, so if not, then let me know and I'll be happy to take them down, but this is a very good article on the benefits of supplementing with Omega-3 fatty acids, fish oil in particular:

http://www.1fast400.com/a38_Fish_Oil.html

And I'm not sure what you meant by "other stuff," but if you meant SesaThin, then here's an article talking about it and fish oil if you're curious:

http://magazine.mindandmuscle.net/ma...=32&pageID=390

Sorry...I mean tthe fat burning properties as the other stuff. Sesathin I've heard of.

Originally Posted by Jodi

Melting Point IMO is the best fat burner I've ever used but it has sides that some can't take. 2nd choice is ECA but I mainly use that for stimulant not so much fat burning.

What sort of sides?

lipo 6 works good.

lipo 6 works good for burning fat but I feel weaker when I'm on this and have a hard time doing the weight I normally can do. I take protein, multi, and efa.

Is lipo 6 taking away some of my muscle? If so, would creatine help. I haven't taken creatine yet, but I have been thinking about it lately.

EDIT: Sorry for the double post

I personally took "Ripped Fuel Extreme" and got on the treadmill about 1-2 miles every morning and chaged my diet and in no time i dropped over 25 pounds.. I recommend for anyone to do cardio in the morning . Your body will burn FAT vs Burning food that you have ate throught out the day if you do cardio at the end of afternoon...

I agree-When I was on my contest training and did cardio 5 times a week, it was always in the morning.

Best ECA Stack is at www.senutrition.com the product name is Metabolic Fuel RX. I don't know of any other product that has Ephedra in it anymore. I've been taking this stuff for a little over a year.

Originally Posted by Robert DiMaggio

obviously diet comes first...

my biased recommendation is: www.bodybuilding.com/store/imag/fuel.html

i think I mite try this one!!

http://www.bulknutrition.com/?products_id=2328

This product is currently legal to sell and to my knowledge one of the only ephedra/caffeine stacks available. I think the herb is better than synthetic ephedrine. I believe the alkaloids are a big reason e/c worked so well