Methyl question

icanrace · 12-27-2005, 07:43 AM

can someone post a link to a good post or information on explaining why these ingredients are so bad for your liver? I read where people talk about how harsh this stuff is, but I would like to learn more. Thanks

**dg806** · 12-27-2005, 11:24 AM

Methylated hormones

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Methylated hormones
By David Tolson
www.bulknutrition.com

The most recent development in legal hormonal supplements has been an influx of various 17 alpha-alkylated (or methylated) prohormones and "designer steroids." These compounds are quite potent, and should not be used by those with limited prohormone experience. The methylation allows them to resist metabolism in the liver, making them highly orally bioavailable. It also makes them somewhat toxic to the liver, so these compounds need to be used with caution. Getting your liver values checked is advised, especially if using for more than two continuous weeks or taking more than two methylated steroids at the same time (both of which are not recommended to begin with). Taking liver protection supplements is a good idea when using these compounds. It is also a very bad idea to drink alcohol or take other drugs that are hard on the liver.

Methyls should be used for cycles of 1-2 weeks. For those that prefer longer cycles, one strategy is to run a long cycle of one substance and at the same time use a methyl in a one week on, one week off or two on, two off fashion.

A common misperception concerning methylated prohormones is that they are "orally bioavailable" or "stronger" versions of the original prohormone. However, methylation yields an entirely different steroid, and the effects can be very different. For example, one cannot expect the effect of methyl-1,4-andro to parallel that of 1,4-andro. Each compound must be evaluated independently. These are some of the new methylated steroids on the market.

icanrace · 12-28-2005, 08:24 AM

thanks for the information.

juggernaut · 04-05-2006, 12:23 PM

http://www.discountanabolics.com/p/LG19

so is this the same stuff or is it crap?

40-yard dash_2 · 04-05-2006, 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by juggernaut

http://www.discountanabolics.com/p/LG19

so is this the same stuff or is it crap?

This should help: http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=513180

juggernaut · 04-07-2006, 01:28 PM

guess it's crap. dammit. I'm looking for a PH cycle that I can gowith and pass an OCB test. They have really stringent guidelines that need to be followed to enter a contest. Anyone know of anything? Thought about 6 oxo but do I need more to get better results (in terms of a stack)?

Tier · 04-08-2006, 11:39 AM

Uhm so they are saying a 3 week cycle of Superdrol or something is not advisable? I think the creator says it can be used up to six weeks? Well just another opinion I guess.

BigDyl · 04-08-2006, 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by juggernaut

guess it's crap. dammit. I'm looking for a PH cycle that I can gowith and pass an OCB test. They have really stringent guidelines that need to be followed to enter a contest. Anyone know of anything? Thought about 6 oxo but do I need more to get better results (in terms of a stack)?

Do the real stuff, or don't do anything at all.

juggernaut · 04-08-2006, 01:00 PM

I know dyl. Still pondering.
How's life since you been OWNED punk?!

12-27-2005, 07:43 AM	#1
icanrace Registered User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Indiana Posts: 356	Methyl question can someone post a link to a good post or information on explaining why these ingredients are so bad for your liver? I read where people talk about how harsh this stuff is, but I would like to learn more. Thanks

12-27-2005, 11:24 AM	#2
dg806 Guardian of The Homeland Super Moderator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Charlotte NC Posts: 17,158	Methylated hormones -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Methylated hormones By David Tolson www.bulknutrition.com The most recent development in legal hormonal supplements has been an influx of various 17 alpha-alkylated (or methylated) prohormones and "designer steroids." These compounds are quite potent, and should not be used by those with limited prohormone experience. The methylation allows them to resist metabolism in the liver, making them highly orally bioavailable. It also makes them somewhat toxic to the liver, so these compounds need to be used with caution. Getting your liver values checked is advised, especially if using for more than two continuous weeks or taking more than two methylated steroids at the same time (both of which are not recommended to begin with). Taking liver protection supplements is a good idea when using these compounds. It is also a very bad idea to drink alcohol or take other drugs that are hard on the liver. Methyls should be used for cycles of 1-2 weeks. For those that prefer longer cycles, one strategy is to run a long cycle of one substance and at the same time use a methyl in a one week on, one week off or two on, two off fashion. A common misperception concerning methylated prohormones is that they are "orally bioavailable" or "stronger" versions of the original prohormone. However, methylation yields an entirely different steroid, and the effects can be very different. For example, one cannot expect the effect of methyl-1,4-andro to parallel that of 1,4-andro. Each compound must be evaluated independently. These are some of the new methylated steroids on the market.
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04-05-2006, 12:23 PM	#4
juggernaut hybrid of machine & skin Elite Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Mars Posts: 4,129 Photos: 2	http://www.discountanabolics.com/p/LG19 so is this the same stuff or is it crap?
	Eat well, train daily, die anyway.

04-07-2006, 01:28 PM	#6
juggernaut hybrid of machine & skin Elite Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Mars Posts: 4,129 Photos: 2	guess it's crap. dammit. I'm looking for a PH cycle that I can gowith and pass an OCB test. They have really stringent guidelines that need to be followed to enter a contest. Anyone know of anything? Thought about 6 oxo but do I need more to get better results (in terms of a stack)?
	Eat well, train daily, die anyway.

04-08-2006, 01:00 PM	#9
juggernaut hybrid of machine & skin Elite Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Mars Posts: 4,129 Photos: 2	I know dyl. Still pondering. How's life since you been OWNED punk?!
	Eat well, train daily, die anyway.

12-28-2005, 08:24 AM	#3
icanrace Registered User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Indiana Posts: 356	thanks for the information.

04-08-2006, 11:39 AM	#7
Tier Your Pretend Friend Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Virginia Beach, VA Posts: 765	Uhm so they are saying a 3 week cycle of Superdrol or something is not advisable? I think the creator says it can be used up to six weeks? Well just another opinion I guess.

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