Ya, it's a good idea to stop taking creatine if you are looking to get really cut, bacause creatine causes you to retain water, resulting in a more smooth look.
As for thermogenics, If you are looking for an ECA stack, I recommend ripped fuel or hydroxycut.
-Crowman
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[This message has been edited by crowman (edited 12-05-2000).]



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