Thread: Transdermals

are you worried about it getting on a girlfriend?

Originally Posted by Robert DiMaggio

are you worried about it getting on a girlfriend?

No a boyfriend.

Seriously, it is possible. That shit doesn't go away, I used to get it in my eyes long after use.

Originally Posted by musclepump

How possible is it, if at all, to transfer something like a 4-Derm to someone by touching them, even after its dry on you?

possibly, but even if you did it wouldn't have any real affect on them, you need to rub that shit deep into the muscle, and take the 10 sprays a day or whatever it is, getting a drop on someone ain't going to do a whole lot

Originally Posted by Robert DiMaggio

are you worried about it getting on a girlfriend?

Wife. She gets drug-tested according to IOC rules.

4-Derm is pretty oily even when it's absorbed so I'd be really careful about contact with large areas of skin.

Given that only a certain % is absorbed through the skin and that the 4-AD/Test conversion ratio is fairly low you should be okay, but if her career's on the line I'd have a shower before playtime.

Originally Posted by redspy

4-Derm is pretty oily even when it's absorbed so I'd be really careful about contact with large areas of skin.

Given that only a certain % is absorbed through the skin and that the 4-AD/Test conversion ratio is fairly low you should be okay, but if her career's on the line I'd have a shower before playtime.

Definitely. She was gone for a week so I used it, and she came back last night so yesterday I discontinued it--took a shower, changed the bed sheets, washed all the clothes I had worn. It can't permeate through the skin via sweat can it? I'm not overly worried because as you mention, the conversation rate isn't overly high and after a shower there isn't any on the surface. I'm just being extremely careful because her career is definitely more important than any of this stuff.

Sounds like you got your bases covered. After a shower you'll be "harmless".

Originally Posted by redspy

Sounds like you got your bases covered. After a shower you'll be "harmless".

Good to know. Both of these transdermals have products that, if even found in the urine in ridiculously small amounts (we're talking amounts that are a hundred fold away from even being useful) you get banned for.

And with that, how long does 4-Derm stay in your system? Anyone know? Any info on Norderm as well?

With 4-Derm you typically start PCT a day after you stop using it, so the half-life is short.

The target hormone of 19Nor (nandrolone) without an ester also has a short half-life.

Just start PCT the next day.