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    Hi all, Ive done some research on M1T cycles and PCT, just a question or two before I try and begin this. Ive already purchased Milk Thistle, along with Nolvadex.
    My first question is how much should you take worth of Nolva when coming right out of the M1T cycle (and should the dose be lowered as PCT goes on), and how much milk thistle during cycle and during PCT?
    Also I see that most people stack some kind of 4-ad with M1t to balance side effects. Is there anyone out there that has taken M1T by itself and seen positive results, or know of another supplement that gives similar effects? Ive seen some, but not any that do the job of 4-ad.
    Lastly is it alright to take creatine at the same time? or should i hold off for another time?
    Anything you guys can give me is greatly appreciated and lemme know if Ive left anything important out. Thanks again!
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    forgot to mention that i will be starting with 5mg for first week of M1T, then continue to 10mg the next week, and if side effects arent too bad, then 15mg the following week
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    dude seriously order some testosterone to run with M1T the side effects are horrible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nachez
    dude seriously order some testosterone to run with M1T the side effects are horrible.
    You are the dumbest man to ever set foot on this planet.
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    guy Test should be the base of any roid cycle
    go ask Tough.
    you are an ignorant son of a Mino Lee.

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    People have run M1T by itself many times. Some people say that the sides weren't that bad...some say that the sides are horrible. If you can't get ahold of any 4Derm (or any other form of 4AD), you can just run it without it.

    With the Nolva, I would suggest starting with 40mg/day for the first couple of weeks, then 20mg/day for 2-4 more weeks after that. I would suggest doing 5-6 total weeks of pct to make sure that you are back up to speed, since M1T shuts you down completely.

    When I say 40mg, I don't mean 40mg of Tamoxifen Citrate, but 40mg of Tamoxifen, which comes to 60mg of Tamoxifen Citrate. The equation for figuring out how much of the Tamoxifen Citrate you need is 30mg Tamoxifen Citrate = 20mg Tamoxifen.

    I would suggest taking 3 caps of your Milk Thistle/day. I don't know what the dosage is on what you have, but I am sure that 1 or 2 won't be enough. You can drop it to 2/day during your pct.

    Creatine will be fine to use during the cycle. If you have never tried it, I would suggest getting some Glycerol Mono Sterate for cell volumizing effects, as well. You can get it at www.customnutritionwarehouse.com.
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