Thread: Does protein make you fat?

No offense but on creatine, do a search. No, really, we have loads of helpfull posts and information on that subject and we'd basicaly be retyping all of it if we answered you directly.


As for protein making you fat, protein has calories. Too much of anything will make you fat. Its about balancing the diet. And on that note, spend some time in the nutrition section reading all you can. Read journals to see how and what people are eating. Sound like its gonna take a long time? You bet it will. But you will learn.

Just like we had to do.


Enjoy.

Why does everyone think this? It won't make you fat. If all you had to eat in a day was a protein shake at every meal you would probably lose alot of weight.

Originally Posted by fufu

Why does everyone think this? It won't make you fat. If all you had to eat in a day was a protein shake at every meal you would probably lose alot of weight.

But not be very healthy.

To much makes me FART

Originally Posted by fufu

Why does everyone think this? It won't make you fat. If all you had to eat in a day was a protein shake at every meal you would probably lose alot of weight.

if all you drank all day were 3-6 protien shakes you would probably loose weight due to lack of calories.

If all you ate all day was 25oz steaks and eggs you would get fat. Even if the steaks were lean. Take in more then you burn and you get fat.

Originally Posted by fufu

Why does everyone think this? It won't make you fat. If all you had to eat in a day was a protein shake at every meal you would probably lose alot of weight.

It would still depend on whether you taking in more calories then you burn in a day. If you have a surplus of calories ea week no matter what you eat, you'll gain weight. A person can eat candy all day long and lose weight if their calorie intake is lower then calorie intake to maintain their present weight.

Originally Posted by P-funk

if all you drank all day were 3-6 protien shakes you would probably loose weight due to lack of calories.

If all you ate all day was 25oz steaks and eggs you would get fat. Even if the steaks were lean. Take in more then you burn and you get fat.

well yes, but I figured he was reffering to isolated protein, like whey. I was kind of exaggerating the point.

Originally Posted by V Player

But not be very healthy.

Didn't say it was.

Originally Posted by fufu

Didn't say it was.

No but I read your mind... *insert Twighlight Zone Music*

dun dun dun!

YES!! Protein shakes will make you super fat!! Don't ever drink them!

The equation of calories in vs. calories out is a bit antiquicated, as the type of calories you take in also makes a huge difference. Protein is the LEAST likely macronutrient to make you fat, all things being equal. Protein has the greatest thermic effect, meaning that simply processing it burns more calories than processing carbs or fats. There is a very good reason that high protein/low carb/medium fat diets work better than all other diets when it comes to maintaining muscle and burning fat...much of it having to do with the thermic effect of protein and the control of insulin levels.

Originally Posted by gopro

The equation of calories in vs. calories out is a bit antiquicated, as the type of calories you take in also makes a huge difference. Protein is the LEAST likely macronutrient to make you fat, all things being equal. Protein has the greatest thermic effect, meaning that simply processing it burns more calories than processing carbs or fats. There is a very good reason that high protein/low carb/medium fat diets work better than all other diets when it comes to maintaining muscle and burning fat...much of it having to do with the thermic effect of protein and the control of insulin levels.

I knew there was something else along those lines.

Originally Posted by gopro

The equation of calories in vs. calories out is a bit antiquicated, as the type of calories you take in also makes a huge difference..

For health reasons I agree. You have to eat healthy to be healthy. But, for simpley losing bodyfat....

I believe Lyle McDonald proved that incorrect by dieting down and eating a candy bar every day as long as it was figured into his caloric intake.

Originally Posted by P-funk

For health reasons I agree. You have to eat healthy to be healthy. But, for simpley losing bodyfat....

I believe Lyle McDonald proved that incorrect by dieting down and eating a candy bar every day as long as it was figured into his caloric intake.

I put about as much credence into that as I put into HMB being as good a muscle builder as Deca Durabolin.

Originally Posted by fufu

I knew there was something else along those lines.

And there are more studeis coming out by the day to support it...strongly.

Originally Posted by gopro

I put about as much credence into that as I put into HMB being as good a muscle builder as Deca Durabolin.

okay, but it is basic thermo-dynamics. eat less= loose weight. eat more= gain weight.

Now, I am not disagreeing with you in terms of being a healthier person or maintaining lean body mass when you diet. Ofcourse if your diet is crap you are going to probably loose a lot of muscle when you start eating less.

if you don't believe it then why do people who eat 1-2 meals a day consisting of nothing beneficial loose weight? Or people on weight watchers that eat those crap filled frozen foods they make? simple....less calories=less weight.

Originally Posted by P-funk

okay, but it is basic thermo-dynamics. eat less= loose weight. eat more= gain weight.

Now, I am not disagreeing with you in terms of being a healthier person or maintaining lean body mass when you diet. Ofcourse if your diet is crap you are going to probably loose a lot of muscle when you start eating less.

if you don't believe it then why do people who eat 1-2 meals a day consisting of nothing beneficial loose weight? Or people on weight watchers that eat those crap filled frozen foods they make? simple....less calories=less weight.

It doesn't always play out that way in the real world my friend. I know many people that eat slightly sub-maintenance calories and fail to lose any weight.

Also, when two diets of the same calories are compared head to head, with one being primarily protein and one being primarily carbs, almost in all cases the high protein diet causes great weight loss.

This is where the thermic effect of food, and the fat storing capacity of insulin have to be considered into the equation.

Originally Posted by gopro

It doesn't always play out that way in the real world my friend. I know many people that eat slightly sub-maintenance calories and fail to lose any weight.

only if they have been eating sub-maintenace calories prior to lower the calories even more. Most people under eat and that hinders their results as much as over eating.

Also, when two diets of the same calories are compared head to head, with one being primarily protein and one being primarily carbs, almost in all cases the high protein diet causes great weight loss.

There are studies that compare a low fat to a low carb diet. While the low carb diet has its most loss of weight within the first few months it then tapers out and by years end the two diets are showen to have an equal amount of weight loss (as long as the person sticks to the diet).

Originally Posted by Tough Old Man

To much makes me FART

I thought I was the only one!

Originally Posted by P-funk

only if they have been eating sub-maintenace calories prior to lower the calories even more. Most people under eat and that hinders their results as much as over eating.



There are studies that compare a low fat to a low carb diet. While the low carb diet has its most loss of weight within the first few months it then tapers out and by years end the two diets are showen to have an equal amount of weight loss (as long as the person sticks to the diet).

Yeah, but those low carb diets were not high enough in protein. When protein is up, the results are optimal.

Listen, there is no doubt that calories play an extreme role in weight loss or weight gain...however, what needs to be considered (forgetting "health") is where the weight loss or weight gains comes from...muscle or fat. You can lose a ton of weight and still end up FATTER. This is where the largest importance of macronutrient types and ratios come in, and where it goes far beyond calories. What happens within the body hormonally and enzymatically is almost completely based on the types of calories taken in...and that is where the true results lie.

Originally Posted by gopro

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Listen, there is no doubt that calories play an extreme role in weight loss or weight gain...however, what needs to be considered (forgetting "health") is where the weight loss or weight gains comes from...muscle or fat. You can lose a ton of weight and still end up FATTER..

I don't disagree with that at all. All I was saying was that calories matter for 'weight loss'. Losing fat and maintaining muscle you need to have a balanced diet. I didn't argue with that.

Originally Posted by P-funk

I don't disagree with that at all. All I was saying was that calories matter for 'weight loss'. Losing fat and maintaining muscle you need to have a balanced diet. I didn't argue with that.

I know bro...but even "weight loss" will be greater (not by dozens of lbs, but by some) if calories are even but come from a better profile, i.e., more protein, less carbs. And forgetting studies entirely, I have watched the scenario play out in front of me enough times already to know it is true.