Thread: Creatine on a Cut

hi mochy - i posted on this a few threads back. i'm taking a product called creatine clear that uses a sodium transport system instead of a glucose spike. so no calories or sugar there. it claims to be super digestable and not cause bloat.

i've been using for 2 weeks. i'm honestly not sure if i'm getting any benefits from it. seriously. i don't know that it's helping me at all. but i haven't had any bloat or water weight gain from it (as promised)

curious - have you used creatine before?

I have used creatine before. Then I read about the water storage and I stopped using it. That was about a year ago. Lately I have read of so many people using it while they were on a cut and I didn't know if I should start again or if it really does cause water gain.

when you used it before you didn't notice any obvious water gain or bloat? so hard. some people say it moves water into the muscle cells and not under the skin and then someone will say they blew up and were majorily puffy. (scares me!)

when you used it did you notice definite strength gains? so hard to know sometimes what works because we're all hoping to get stronger from training and good nutrition so it's hard to know what part is or isn't from creatine. ya know?

thanks!

I can't say I felt bloated or any different. I was a little heavier then anyway. As far as increase during training, never noticed too much difference. Diet and nutrition alone can make one day better than another so who knows. I am scared about the puffy thing though thats why I was asking about it. I just want to know if I should even bother I guess.

Creatine will cause intracell(within the muscle) water retention. The idea here is more favorable conditions for growth for muscle!
It should not cause water under the skin or bloating! Some people tell a bigger difference in strength than others. GP posted some info on this in one thread but I can't find it. He explains it perfectly!

I do not see any problem with taking creatine while cutting.

Yeah, you'll lose the fat. But you'll retain water. But just run and sweat a bit and don't drink a ton and it will be gone. I think Cytodyne had a product for getting water out of your system.

Some people experience bloat, but I never have. Creatine is fine when cutting, just hit it post workout (w/i 30min), and avoid premixed creatines. Too much sugar. All you need for an isulin spike and creatine transport is 13-15g sugar (preferably dextrose). The pos effects of 15g sugar is equal to that of 75g, but w/o the negs. The idea that more is better is screwed... most of the time...or at least this time .

oh, BTW, ijust don't get depressed at the #s on the scale. w/o any bloat, I generally end up puttin' on 10 in the 1st week back on (water of course). G'luck

So you relly want to cut. More protein less carbs and you will have the body that you might dream of. When you consume more protein your body burns FAT which is the best source of energy not carbs. If anybody out there thinks or believe that carbs are the best source of energy please have some type of scientifically data to support your lies.

Uhhhh.... you really might wanna rethink some of that or get some "scientific data" to support your claim that "When you consume more protein your body burns FAT ", b/c that is just plainly bunk. It's a balance of alot of things, but noone ever said carbs were the best source of energy. Unless you don't care about catabolis, carbs are very beneficial in the proper ammounts and types post workout, regardless of your goals.

Originally posted by Star_Scream
Yeah, you'll lose the fat. But you'll retain water. But just run and sweat a bit and don't drink a ton and it will be gone. I think Cytodyne had a product for getting water out of your system.

Yeah Tarxatone works pretty good. I used it and had to pee every ten minutes.

I generally hold about 2 lbs of extra water weight while on creatine but I would not say that I look puffy or bloated. I think it may blur my definition some but not enough to be noticeable to probably anyone else but myself, either that or I'm imagining things, lol. I didn't see any benefits from creatine when I was on a bulking cycle but with my cutting, it seems to keep my energy level stable for longer than without it. I have noticed that I lift about 2 reps less using the same weight than I do when I'm on it. So overall, I personally don't notice any big gains with it. Best thing to do is just to try it for yourself and see. I also used just the plain 'ole creatine monohydrate mixed in Crystal Light and I usually have it post workout with some complex carbs.

the benefits of creatine supplementation and it's effects on ATP (the biological energy source of all anabolic and catabolic processes) production and storage far out weigh any unwanted water weight.

a good creatine supp made from a quality raw material will be very low sodium as compared to others made with a lesser quality raw material. water weight should be minimum, unless one's body already has the predispostion to store excess water.

Glad I ran across this. I had been holding off my creatine as I jsut started back after my injury and gained some unwanted poundage. I wanted to see a drop in lbs before starting back onto it, but looks as if I will hit it again tomorrow.
I will grow! I will be lean! Girls will take notice of me! Ok, maybe too much to ask for right away....baby steps....

There's more to take than creatine, anywayz!

when i take creatine i feal like i get like a wierd fealing in my stommach but it is right in the middle of my workout when i get the fealing in my stomach but after 15-30 mins i feal fine and i get alot better work out when i take creatine i get alot more of a work out for one thing and also i get a huge pump and seem to be able to do a little more than i can without it

The Product That Cytodyne Makes Is Called Taraxatone - 3 Pills Taken 2times A Day- With Breakfast And Lunch. 1 Bottle Will Last 10 Days But I Get The Results I Need For Taking Off Water In Like 3-5 Days. If Your Cutting You Could Try My Stack, Tight -animal Cuts- And Taraxatone. Tight Is Made By S.a.n.- 1 Pill With Meals 1-2 Times A Day- Animal Cuts Is Made By Universal And Is 2 Paks A Day- 1 In The Morning And One Early Afternoon- And I Use Taraxatone Just Incase Any Water Is Still Hiding, Which Isnt Much, And I Go Like 12 Weeks Before Doing This Cycle Again And No Fat Gain Is Made. Hope It Helped

Also When Taking Taraxatone Drink At Least 8 - 8 Oz. Glasses Of Water A Day- And When Using The Stack Shoot For 12 Or More.

I Use Creatine, And I'm On A Cut.

Taking a diuretic will negate the benifits of creatine. Like dg806 said, the muscles retain water, it is not the type of "bloating" you get during your period where the water is under the skin. There is no problem using creatine on a cut, and a few days after you stop the creatine cycle, the excess water will be gone. During the creatine cycle, you will weigh a few pounds more, but not lose definition or appear fatter (nor will you be fatter). In fact, your muscles will look a bit bigger if anything.

Originally Posted by micflint001

when i take creatine i feal like i get like a wierd fealing in my stommach but it is right in the middle of my workout when i get the fealing in my stomach but after 15-30 mins i feal fine and i get alot better work out when i take creatine i get alot more of a work out for one thing and also i get a huge pump and seem to be able to do a little more than i can without it

why the fuck did you just reply to a 2 year old thread?

why not?

Originally Posted by Monolith

why the fuck did you just reply to a 2 year old thread?

Digging in the dirt. Keep em' in check Monolith!

Originally Posted by zenreich6005

why not?

Old threads contain OLD information. New knowledge is aquired about supplements daily. This has old info in it that may be irrelavent.

lol somebody got bored in the archives

premier...not much has changed in weightlifting over the past 50 years really....so a 2 year old supplement question isnt gonna be irrelevant. mentzer, draper, gironda, arnold...everyone figured out their own thing and since then, different people have just repeated it...charles staley preaches gironda's methods....poliquins are very similar to draper's...actuallly, poliquins gvt is just a gironda workout....HST is basically modeled on steeve reeve's old training protocol....yates preaches mentzer....the magazines preach arnolds stuff..thats training for you.

as for supplements? creatine monohydrate was released how long ago? last good supplement to come out , in my opinion at least...

If you think not much has changed in the BB game in the last 50yrs you are blind. Look how the physiques have progressed. It takes KNOWLEDGE to build a physique like the BB's of today have. The BB's of past didnt posess this knowledge.