What should i be taking.... and what's everyone else taking?

Johnny Begood · 07-18-2006, 04:38 AM

There are so many supplements out there, each with their own benifit in some way or another, the problem is.... you end up taking this and that because it says you need to taking supplement X and by the end of the day you walking round rattling like pill bottle.

One argument is..... if you're eating a balanced healthy diet, do you really need to supplement. My opinion is yes you do, if you're training - hard - three or four times a week, you're putting a lot of stress on your body and your body will be trying to repair and recover from this stress, so the extra vitamins and minerals are needed.

As well as a healthy diet........

I'm taking:

With breakfast:
Multi vitamin and mineral.
Iron
Flax seed
Cod liver oil
Vitamin E
Glucosamine sulphate

With lunch:
Vitamin B and C
Flax seed oil
Glucosamine sulphate

Evening meal:
Flax seed oil
Glucosamine sulphate.

Each taken for a reason, Glucosamine sulphate for my old worn out joints, iron to get as much oxygen into my blood and stop me feeling tired.
Vitamin E as an Antioxidants, ect, ect, ect....................................

Some might disagree with what i'm taking and say i'm wasting my money, but it seems to work for me.

....let me know what you think, and i'd be interested in what you think i should be taking and anything you'd recommend. Also, what are you taking and why?

Martinogdenbsx · 07-18-2006, 05:01 AM

i stay simple and take a multi vitamin and iron with 3 udos choice capsules

but i have age on my side

Johnny Begood · 07-18-2006, 05:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Martinogdenbsx

i stay simple and take a multi vitamin and iron with 3 udos choice capsules

but i have age on my side

excuse the ignorance.... but what the "3 udos choice capsules?"

Cheers.

Martinogdenbsx · 07-18-2006, 05:47 AM

Udos Choice Ultimate Oil Blend - 90 x 1000mg
from Udo's Choice

Udo's Choice Oil Blend is a carefully blended mix of the finest Omega 3, 6 and 9 varieties of Essential Fatty Acid sources.

What are Essential Fats?

Scientists have given essential fats (a.ka. essential fatty acids or EFAs) their name because the body must have them to survive, but cannot synthesize them from any other substance we eat, so a direct food source is required. Hence, the name essential. There are many kinds of fats, but only two kinds of essential fats: omega 3 (n-3 or w3) and omega 6 (n-6 or w6), both of which are unsaturated fats.

Why do we need Essential Fats?

Just as a member of a large family has many roles, essential fats serve many functions in the complex workings of the human body. Taken in the right amounts and ratios, and taken from the right sources, essential fats help establish and maintain health as follows:

* Increase energy, performance, and stamina. EFAs enhance thermogenesis, help build muscle, prevent muscle break down, and speed recovery from fatigue
* Strengthen the immune system. EFAs make hormone-like eicosanoids that regulate immune and inflammatory responses. N-3s have anti-inflammatory effects and can slow autoimmune damage
* Lower most risk factors for cardiovascular disease. EFAs (especially n3s) lower abnormally high levels of blood pressure, triglycerides, Lp(a), fibrinogen, tendency to clot formation, and inflammation
* Improve brain function: mood, intelligence , behavior, and vision. Our brain is over 60% fat. EFAs are important components of the entire nervous system. They are necessary to make the neurotransmitter serotonin. Depression and other brain diseases show decreased levels of n-3
* Aid in weight reduction. EFAs help keep mood and energy up and suppress appetite, thereby aiding in weight loss. More recently, they have been found to block the genes that produce fat in the body (saturated and Trans Fat do not have this same effect) and increase thermogenesis
* Regulate organs and glands. Liver and kidneys, adrenal and thyroid glands, and the production of male and female hormones need EFAs
* Speed recovery and healing. EFAs are necessary for cell growth and division. They form all cell membranes and regulate vital cell activity
* Support healthy child development. For nervous system development, a growing fetus needs optimum EFAs from the mother's body. Mothers become depleted of EFAs during pregnancy, and need optimal EFA intake for their health and their children's optimum development
* Improve digestion. Poorly digested foods tie up the immune system and can cause gut inflammation, leaky gut, and allergies. N-3s improve gut integrity, and decrease inflammation and "leaky gut"
* Decrease infection. EFAs have anti-fungal, anti-yeast, and anti-microbial properties, helping to protect against infections
* Keep bones strong. EFAs aid in the transport of minerals that keep bones and teeth strong, helping to prevent osteoporosis
* Protect genetic material. EFAs regulate gene expression, and n-3s inhibit tumor growth
* Ease PMS. Studies indicate that n-6 (GLA) intake was voted, by women, among the top three most effective PMS treatments. N-3s may be even more effective
* Produce beautiful skin, hair, and nails. Some of the first signs of EFA deficiency are dry, flaky skin, dull hair, and brittle nails. N-3s can help skin conditions such as eczema, psoriasis, and acne. Also, GLA (n-6 derivative) administration is useful for some patients with atopic eczema.

Udo's Choice Ultimate Oil Blend is also:

* Certified Organic by Organic Certification Limited
* Gluten free and contains no GM ingredients

Johnny Begood · 07-18-2006, 05:51 AM

.... you don't work for them as a sales rep do you????

thanks for the info.

**Prince** · 07-19-2006, 09:21 AM

what you're taking is fine, as far as adding any more supps it depends on what your goals are.

Johnny Begood · 07-19-2006, 10:31 AM

..... I guess my main aim at the moment, weight training wise, is to gain in strength and size..... keeping it clean - without chemical assistance at the moment. Saying that though, I'm keeping an open mind about taking something at a later date, the jury's still out on that one... hey, no one's perfect!

... I've always been involved with weight training at some point over the past twenty years and at one time was a lot bigger than I am now.

At the moment I'm really into Muay Thai ( a martial art from Thailand.) where big muscles and a high body fat ratio aren't going to do you any good at all. Also, a good recovery from my training and weights sessions is very desirable.... anything, supplement wise that would help, I'd be interested in hearing about.

All going well, I hope to get to Thailand next year, about March time to train with the Thai's, and big muscles aren't going to help, they'll paste the floor with me. Stamina and recovery is where I need to improve... I

So, at the moment I'm just training to gain a little more muscle and strength, then nearer the time, it'll be a total focus on stamina and recovery..... I aint no spring chicken anymore my friend!

hope I didn't bleat on too long.....???

Martinogdenbsx · 07-19-2006, 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Johnny Begood

..... I guess my main aim at the moment, weight training wise, is to gain in strength and size..... keeping it clean - without chemical assistance at the moment. Saying that though, I'm keeping an open mind about taking something at a later date, the jury's still out on that one... hey, no one's perfect!

... I've always been involved with weight training at some point over the past twenty years and at one time was a lot bigger than I am now.

At the moment I'm really into Muay Thai ( a martial art from Thailand.) where big muscles and a high body fat ratio aren't going to do you any good at all. Also, a good recovery from my training and weights sessions is very desirable.... anything, supplement wise that would help, I'd be interested in hearing about.

All going well, I hope to get to Thailand next year, about March time to train with the Thai's, and big muscles aren't going to help, they'll paste the floor with me. Stamina and recovery is where I need to improve... I

So, at the moment I'm just training to gain a little more muscle and strength, then nearer the time, it'll be a total focus on stamina and recovery..... I aint no spring chicken anymore my friend!

hope I didn't bleat on too long.....???

You have to remember that although some supplements CAN help alot are overrated in order to increase sales

Where are you going to train,i am also hoping to go over to train

Johnny Begood · 07-20-2006, 03:42 AM

I'll be training in Chiang Mai, northern Thailand, at the Lanna Muay Thai boxing camp that's run by Andy Thomson.

http://lannamuaythai.com/

There's a couple of us planning to go out with our Kru for two weeks. The plan is to train for the first weeks and get some experience training and sparring with the Thai's, see how we feel and then head to a beach somewhere for the second week and just chill out.

Martinogdenbsx · 07-20-2006, 05:57 AM

HAHA see you there then,im goin on my own cus i have to get away (gap year you see)

Sounds good though

**IainDaniel** · 07-20-2006, 07:43 AM

If you are a male. The iron supplement isn't really necessary

Johnny Begood · 07-20-2006, 07:53 AM

...the last time i looked...hang on.... yep.... i'm male....

what makes you say that big fella?... I'm interested.

I find it makes a difference, maybe it's physiological?, but a month or so back I was feeling drained and running out of steam and my recovery was shite while doing Muay Thai.... started taking an iron supp and I must admit I'm not so tired.

...when you get to my age..... anything that can help is a bonus!

**IainDaniel** · 07-20-2006, 08:33 AM

For the most part you will get enough Iron supplementation from foods and your multi. Iron isn't something that is excreted by the body, unless you have a menstral cycle or donate blood regularly.

There are some problems with having a higher iron content in you blood.

viet_jon · 07-26-2006, 07:40 PM

i'm stopping all supplemnts except ec stack for two months. i'm becoming skeptical about it all. I'm gonna eat 100% top notch healthy diet, see if i can still get gain as i do now.

juggernaut · 07-31-2006, 10:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Johnny Begood

..... I guess my main aim at the moment, weight training wise, is to gain in strength and size..... keeping it clean - without chemical assistance at the moment. Saying that though, I'm keeping an open mind about taking something at a later date, the jury's still out on that one... hey, no one's perfect!

... I've always been involved with weight training at some point over the past twenty years and at one time was a lot bigger than I am now.

At the moment I'm really into Muay Thai ( a martial art from Thailand.) where big muscles and a high body fat ratio aren't going to do you any good at all. Also, a good recovery from my training and weights sessions is very desirable.... anything, supplement wise that would help, I'd be interested in hearing about.

All going well, I hope to get to Thailand next year, about March time to train with the Thai's, and big muscles aren't going to help, they'll paste the floor with me. Stamina and recovery is where I need to improve... I

So, at the moment I'm just training to gain a little more muscle and strength, then nearer the time, it'll be a total focus on stamina and recovery..... I aint no spring chicken anymore my friend!

hope I didn't bleat on too long.....???

I heard test-e works really well.

Johnny Begood · 08-01-2006, 03:38 AM

....what's 'test-e'..... teststerone something???

juggernaut · 08-01-2006, 06:20 AM

yes...I'm sorry, I was being a wiseass. Actually, if you really want help in those areas, try CEE and maybe an NO2-Rob has both for sale. Both at good prices.

robousy · 08-02-2006, 08:03 PM

...AAAAHHH, thailand. Wonderful country.

I spent some time in Chang Mai a few years ago. Amazing shopping...and I say that as a guy who absolutely DETESTS shopping. Amazing outdoor markets though with crazy insane cheap prices.

Always wanted to do that thai boxing training thing. Might yet...

Good luck

Johnny Begood · 08-03-2006, 02:39 AM

Thailand, yeah... i'm really looking forward to it.. a little apprehensive about training with the Thai's and getting the Sh*te kicked out of me, but hopefully it'll be a real learning experience and i'll come back a better person????

Martinogdenbsx · 08-06-2006, 10:31 AM

yeah u sure will

your nose will be flat and ur ears puffed out HA HA

Johnny Begood · 08-07-2006, 03:30 AM

Yep... that makes me feel real good......

..have you ever had that feeling where you think you may have just let your heart rule your head....and it seemed like a good idea at the time.... and there was no one there to stop you...... well.....

07-18-2006, 04:38 AM	#1
Johnny Begood ..do you feel lucky.. Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Cambridge U.K. Posts: 128 Photos: 6	What should i be taking.... and what's everyone else taking? There are so many supplements out there, each with their own benifit in some way or another, the problem is.... you end up taking this and that because it says you need to taking supplement X and by the end of the day you walking round rattling like pill bottle. One argument is..... if you're eating a balanced healthy diet, do you really need to supplement. My opinion is yes you do, if you're training - hard - three or four times a week, you're putting a lot of stress on your body and your body will be trying to repair and recover from this stress, so the extra vitamins and minerals are needed. As well as a healthy diet........ I'm taking: With breakfast: Multi vitamin and mineral. Iron Flax seed Cod liver oil Vitamin E Glucosamine sulphate With lunch: Vitamin B and C Flax seed oil Glucosamine sulphate Evening meal: Flax seed oil Glucosamine sulphate. Each taken for a reason, Glucosamine sulphate for my old worn out joints, iron to get as much oxygen into my blood and stop me feeling tired. Vitamin E as an Antioxidants, ect, ect, ect.................................... Some might disagree with what i'm taking and say i'm wasting my money, but it seems to work for me. ....let me know what you think, and i'd be interested in what you think i should be taking and anything you'd recommend. Also, what are you taking and why? .......always question authority......

07-18-2006, 05:51 AM	#5
Johnny Begood ..do you feel lucky.. Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Cambridge U.K. Posts: 128 Photos: 6	.... you don't work for them as a sales rep do you???? thanks for the info. .......always question authority......

07-19-2006, 09:21 AM	#6
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07-19-2006, 10:31 AM	#7
Johnny Begood ..do you feel lucky.. Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Cambridge U.K. Posts: 128 Photos: 6	..... I guess my main aim at the moment, weight training wise, is to gain in strength and size..... keeping it clean - without chemical assistance at the moment. Saying that though, I'm keeping an open mind about taking something at a later date, the jury's still out on that one... hey, no one's perfect! ... I've always been involved with weight training at some point over the past twenty years and at one time was a lot bigger than I am now. At the moment I'm really into Muay Thai ( a martial art from Thailand.) where big muscles and a high body fat ratio aren't going to do you any good at all. Also, a good recovery from my training and weights sessions is very desirable.... anything, supplement wise that would help, I'd be interested in hearing about. All going well, I hope to get to Thailand next year, about March time to train with the Thai's, and big muscles aren't going to help, they'll paste the floor with me. Stamina and recovery is where I need to improve... I So, at the moment I'm just training to gain a little more muscle and strength, then nearer the time, it'll be a total focus on stamina and recovery..... I aint no spring chicken anymore my friend! hope I didn't bleat on too long.....??? .......always question authority......

07-20-2006, 03:42 AM	#9
Johnny Begood ..do you feel lucky.. Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Cambridge U.K. Posts: 128 Photos: 6	I'll be training in Chiang Mai, northern Thailand, at the Lanna Muay Thai boxing camp that's run by Andy Thomson. http://lannamuaythai.com/ There's a couple of us planning to go out with our Kru for two weeks. The plan is to train for the first weeks and get some experience training and sparring with the Thai's, see how we feel and then head to a beach somewhere for the second week and just chill out. .......always question authority......

07-18-2006, 05:01 AM	#2
Martinogdenbsx Dedicated to one thing!!! Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: UK Posts: 1,149	i stay simple and take a multi vitamin and iron with 3 udos choice capsules but i have age on my side

07-18-2006, 05:47 AM	#4
Martinogdenbsx Dedicated to one thing!!! Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: UK Posts: 1,149	Udos Choice Ultimate Oil Blend - 90 x 1000mg from Udo's Choice Udo's Choice Oil Blend is a carefully blended mix of the finest Omega 3, 6 and 9 varieties of Essential Fatty Acid sources. What are Essential Fats? Scientists have given essential fats (a.ka. essential fatty acids or EFAs) their name because the body must have them to survive, but cannot synthesize them from any other substance we eat, so a direct food source is required. Hence, the name essential. There are many kinds of fats, but only two kinds of essential fats: omega 3 (n-3 or w3) and omega 6 (n-6 or w6), both of which are unsaturated fats. Why do we need Essential Fats? Just as a member of a large family has many roles, essential fats serve many functions in the complex workings of the human body. Taken in the right amounts and ratios, and taken from the right sources, essential fats help establish and maintain health as follows: * Increase energy, performance, and stamina. EFAs enhance thermogenesis, help build muscle, prevent muscle break down, and speed recovery from fatigue * Strengthen the immune system. EFAs make hormone-like eicosanoids that regulate immune and inflammatory responses. N-3s have anti-inflammatory effects and can slow autoimmune damage * Lower most risk factors for cardiovascular disease. EFAs (especially n3s) lower abnormally high levels of blood pressure, triglycerides, Lp(a), fibrinogen, tendency to clot formation, and inflammation * Improve brain function: mood, intelligence , behavior, and vision. Our brain is over 60% fat. EFAs are important components of the entire nervous system. They are necessary to make the neurotransmitter serotonin. Depression and other brain diseases show decreased levels of n-3 * Aid in weight reduction. EFAs help keep mood and energy up and suppress appetite, thereby aiding in weight loss. More recently, they have been found to block the genes that produce fat in the body (saturated and Trans Fat do not have this same effect) and increase thermogenesis * Regulate organs and glands. Liver and kidneys, adrenal and thyroid glands, and the production of male and female hormones need EFAs * Speed recovery and healing. EFAs are necessary for cell growth and division. They form all cell membranes and regulate vital cell activity * Support healthy child development. For nervous system development, a growing fetus needs optimum EFAs from the mother's body. Mothers become depleted of EFAs during pregnancy, and need optimal EFA intake for their health and their children's optimum development * Improve digestion. Poorly digested foods tie up the immune system and can cause gut inflammation, leaky gut, and allergies. N-3s improve gut integrity, and decrease inflammation and "leaky gut" * Decrease infection. EFAs have anti-fungal, anti-yeast, and anti-microbial properties, helping to protect against infections * Keep bones strong. EFAs aid in the transport of minerals that keep bones and teeth strong, helping to prevent osteoporosis * Protect genetic material. EFAs regulate gene expression, and n-3s inhibit tumor growth * Ease PMS. Studies indicate that n-6 (GLA) intake was voted, by women, among the top three most effective PMS treatments. N-3s may be even more effective * Produce beautiful skin, hair, and nails. Some of the first signs of EFA deficiency are dry, flaky skin, dull hair, and brittle nails. N-3s can help skin conditions such as eczema, psoriasis, and acne. Also, GLA (n-6 derivative) administration is useful for some patients with atopic eczema. Udo's Choice Ultimate Oil Blend is also: * Certified Organic by Organic Certification Limited * Gluten free and contains no GM ingredients

07-20-2006, 05:57 AM	#10
Martinogdenbsx Dedicated to one thing!!! Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: UK Posts: 1,149	HAHA see you there then,im goin on my own cus i have to get away (gap year you see) Sounds good though

07-20-2006, 07:43 AM	#11
IainDaniel My Role Model Moderator Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 17,548	If you are a male. The iron supplement isn't really necessary Obstacles don't have to stop you. If you run into a wall, don't turn around and give up. Figure out how to climb it, go through it, or work around it. Michael Jordan

07-20-2006, 07:53 AM	#12
Johnny Begood ..do you feel lucky.. Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Cambridge U.K. Posts: 128 Photos: 6	...the last time i looked...hang on.... yep.... i'm male.... what makes you say that big fella?... I'm interested. I find it makes a difference, maybe it's physiological?, but a month or so back I was feeling drained and running out of steam and my recovery was shite while doing Muay Thai.... started taking an iron supp and I must admit I'm not so tired. ...when you get to my age..... anything that can help is a bonus! .......always question authority......

07-20-2006, 08:33 AM	#13
IainDaniel My Role Model Moderator Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 17,548	For the most part you will get enough Iron supplementation from foods and your multi. Iron isn't something that is excreted by the body, unless you have a menstral cycle or donate blood regularly. There are some problems with having a higher iron content in you blood. Obstacles don't have to stop you. If you run into a wall, don't turn around and give up. Figure out how to climb it, go through it, or work around it. Michael Jordan

07-26-2006, 07:40 PM	#14
viet_jon PISSED!! Elite Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Our home and Native land Posts: 2,605	i'm stopping all supplemnts except ec stack for two months. i'm becoming skeptical about it all. I'm gonna eat 100% top notch healthy diet, see if i can still get gain as i do now. I love dog meat.

08-01-2006, 03:38 AM	#16
Johnny Begood ..do you feel lucky.. Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Cambridge U.K. Posts: 128 Photos: 6	....what's 'test-e'..... teststerone something??? .......always question authority......

08-01-2006, 06:20 AM	#17
juggernaut Creator of Chaos Elite Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: NJ Posts: 5,463 Photos: 2	yes...I'm sorry, I was being a wiseass. Actually, if you really want help in those areas, try CEE and maybe an NO2-Rob has both for sale. Both at good prices.

08-02-2006, 08:03 PM	#18
robousy Registered User Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Texas (British Ex-pat) Posts: 173 Photos: 6	...AAAAHHH, thailand. Wonderful country. I spent some time in Chang Mai a few years ago. Amazing shopping...and I say that as a guy who absolutely DETESTS shopping. Amazing outdoor markets though with crazy insane cheap prices. Always wanted to do that thai boxing training thing. Might yet... Good luck

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08-03-2006, 02:39 AM	#19
Johnny Begood ..do you feel lucky.. Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Cambridge U.K. Posts: 128 Photos: 6	Thailand, yeah... i'm really looking forward to it.. a little apprehensive about training with the Thai's and getting the Shte kicked out of me, but hopefully it'll be a real learning experience and i'll come back a better person???? .......always question authority......*

08-06-2006, 10:31 AM	#20
Martinogdenbsx Dedicated to one thing!!! Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: UK Posts: 1,149	yeah u sure will your nose will be flat and ur ears puffed out HA HA

08-07-2006, 03:30 AM	#21
Johnny Begood ..do you feel lucky.. Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Cambridge U.K. Posts: 128 Photos: 6	Yep... that makes me feel real good...... ..have you ever had that feeling where you think you may have just let your heart rule your head....and it seemed like a good idea at the time.... and there was no one there to stop you...... well..... .......always question authority......