What is the best legal ph around?

Focus · 08-08-2006, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by gopro

Do NOT combine Ready 4 War with NO Shotgun..use one or the other...although I feel that as a true muscle builder, NO Shotgun is FAR superior.

Ah, you're probably right. Just looked into NO shotgun - appears to be a fairly new product. Contains some of the Redline stimulant ingredients... rules out the use of another stimulant.

For muscle building, I'd have to say that NO shotgun does have the edge. Has a real impressive list:
BCAA complex (which happens to have ethyl esters in them)
Creatine ethyl ester
Arginine ethyl ester
L-Glutamine ethyl ester
Arginine Malate and Citrulline Malate

Quite a list, and that's just the beggining. I'll look into trying that out soon, especially because it comes at an affordable price (~34 per tub, lasting around a months time).

I think the only thing Ready4War has over NO Shotgun is the name. From GET DIESEL Nutrition, Ready4War. I think I seriously get a placebo effect from just reading the side of my bottle. HOOAH! haha

gopro · 08-09-2006, 11:54 PM

Honestly, NO Shotgun is one of the most effective products that I have used in a very long time....that and Regeneration-X by ALRI (post workout).

juggernaut · 08-10-2006, 06:24 AM

defintely going to try no shotgun. I currently use cee and damn it that stuff is great.

Focus · 08-10-2006, 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by gopro

Honestly, NO Shotgun is one of the most effective products that I have used in a very long time....that and Regeneration-X by ALRI (post workout).

How many servings do you use? And at what time do you take them(couldn't find that information online for some reason)?
For the results you claim, it's considerably inexpensive. I'd also love to give it a go.

juggernaut · 08-10-2006, 09:44 PM

Read this on the label of NO Shotgun:

NO-SHOTGUN™ is the most advanced product of its kind…Bar none! VPX is so confident in the effectiveness of NO-SHOTGUN™ that we have a $100,000 offer on the table to ANY supplement company that can conclusively prove – in a double-blind University Study – that their product is better at producing lean muscle, generating greater ATP production for more explosive workouts and initiating NO induced, blood engorged pumps.

juggernaut · 08-10-2006, 09:44 PM

thats a hell of a claim!

juggernaut · 08-10-2006, 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Focus

How many servings do you use? And at what time do you take them(couldn't find that information online for some reason)?
For the results you claim, it's considerably inexpensive. I'd also love to give it a go.

it says use once a day on the label

FishOrCutBait · 08-11-2006, 03:37 AM

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Originally Posted by juggernaut

Read this on the label of NO Shotgun:

NO-SHOTGUN™ is the most advanced product of its kind…Bar none! VPX is so confident in the effectiveness of NO-SHOTGUN™ that we have a $100,000 offer on the table to ANY supplement company that can conclusively prove – in a double-blind University Study – that their product is better at producing lean muscle, generating greater ATP production for more explosive workouts and initiating NO induced, blood engorged pumps.

i wish I had a lab, cuz Id make that shit in a heartbeat.

juggernaut · 08-11-2006, 04:04 AM

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Originally Posted by FishOrCutBait

i wish I had a lab, cuz Id make that shit in a heartbeat.

Focus · 08-11-2006, 09:52 AM

Wow.. that's a claim - from a respectable company as well.

juggernaut · 08-11-2006, 10:47 AM

there's gotta be a catch

FishOrCutBait · 08-11-2006, 11:37 AM

OH, here it is!

"Claim is actually just a joke to make easily convinceable jackasses think our word is somehow worth more than the next conniving supplement company. We do not intend to, nor have the ability to simply throw around 100,000, and indeed, never would have."

FishOrCutBait · 08-11-2006, 11:38 AM

realistically, if somebody tried to challenge it, VPX would just challenge the security of the trial

gopro · 08-11-2006, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Focus

How many servings do you use? And at what time do you take them(couldn't find that information online for some reason)?
For the results you claim, it's considerably inexpensive. I'd also love to give it a go.

I use one serving 30 minutes before I drink my pre-workout whey shake, so that it is in my system for about 1 hour before I get started.

juggernaut · 08-11-2006, 12:13 PM

so its all a lot of sniff sniff bullshit?

but wait is there a santa claus?

FishOrCutBait · 08-11-2006, 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by juggernaut

so its all a lot of sniff sniff bullshit?

but wait is there a santa claus?

i wouldnt say the product is bullshit, just the claim.

It sounds to me a lot like a super NO-Xplode

juggernaut · 08-11-2006, 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by FishOrCutBait

i wouldnt say the product is bullshit, just the claim

AND SANTA?

juggernaut · 08-11-2006, 12:19 PM

I'm still going to try it. I like the ingredients. CEE has worked really well for me. I have yet to try the NO part of it so I am interested. What abouta stack to help me grow big and strong like the hulkster? I say my prayers, eat my vitymins and stay in skool!!!

FishOrCutBait · 08-11-2006, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by juggernaut

AND SANTA?

... ... ...

I cant think of anything witty. sooo

No. He's bullshit too, just like that 100,000 dollars.

FishOrCutBait · 08-11-2006, 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by juggernaut

I'm still going to try it. I like the ingredients. CEE has worked really well for me. I have yet to try the NO part of it so I am interested. What abouta stack to help me grow big and strong like the hulkster? I say my prayers, eat my vitymins and stay in skool!!!

It also has redline's energy matrix whatever shit.

So its a stim, NO product, and creatine. sounds like a monster all in one too me

juggernaut · 08-11-2006, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by FishOrCutBait

No. He's bullshit too, just like that 100,000 dollars.

Focus · 08-11-2006, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by juggernaut

AND SANTA?

hahahha

juggernaut · 08-11-2006, 03:12 PM

something funny motherf***er? Are you laughing because there's no Santa??

Here, listen and watch bitch!
http://www.bordergatewayprotocol.net...imations/1.swf

FishOrCutBait · 08-11-2006, 05:03 PM

that bear was pissed. so i x'ed his ass

Focus · 08-12-2006, 10:33 AM

Well I was expecting NO-shotgun for the holidays this year

So now I'm in a lose/lose situation

Kuzinbo · 08-21-2006, 10:04 AM

I have to agree with Go Pro... tons of supps over my lifting life, and NO Shotgun is pretty damn effective. Tastes like ass, but it works. I am on my third "jug" and it just kills NO Explode. I don't even consider them in the same class. After all these years even back when Vanidyl was making it big... nothing has popped my veins out like NO Explode. I have to say, I see myself in the mirror, and I am scarring myself..... and not just because I am an ugly mofo

Focus · 08-22-2006, 12:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Kuzinbo

Tastes like ass

Good! It's just how I like it...

Focus · 08-22-2006, 12:55 AM

I will too be using this product - every review/reply has been positive about this product... it's looking great.

Kuzinbo · 08-22-2006, 10:16 AM

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA>>>> cough cough..... weez... HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

juggernaut · 08-22-2006, 10:55 AM

fuck is so funny?

08-09-2006, 11:54 PM	#62
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08-11-2006, 11:37 AM	#72
FishOrCutBait lifts weights Elite Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Minneapple Posts: 4,817 Photos: 2	OH, here it is! "Claim is actually just a joke to make easily convinceable jackasses think our word is somehow worth more than the next conniving supplement company. We do not intend to, nor have the ability to simply throw around 100,000, and indeed, never would have." This is my journal. Click it and such "tried and true theory on one's self is probably the only non-biased proof that something works for someone." - juggernaut http://www.ronpaul.com/

08-11-2006, 11:38 AM	#73
FishOrCutBait lifts weights Elite Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Minneapple Posts: 4,817 Photos: 2	realistically, if somebody tried to challenge it, VPX would just challenge the security of the trial This is my journal. Click it and such "tried and true theory on one's self is probably the only non-biased proof that something works for someone." - juggernaut http://www.ronpaul.com/

08-11-2006, 05:03 PM	#84
FishOrCutBait lifts weights Elite Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Minneapple Posts: 4,817 Photos: 2	that bear was pissed. so i x'ed his ass This is my journal. Click it and such "tried and true theory on one's self is probably the only non-biased proof that something works for someone." - juggernaut http://www.ronpaul.com/

08-21-2006, 10:04 AM	#86
Kuzinbo Junior "REDNECK" Member Elite Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Florida Posts: 72 Photos: 1	I have to agree with Go Pro... tons of supps over my lifting life, and NO Shotgun is pretty damn effective. Tastes like ass, but it works. I am on my third "jug" and it just kills NO Explode. I don't even consider them in the same class. After all these years even back when Vanidyl was making it big... nothing has popped my veins out like NO Explode. I have to say, I see myself in the mirror, and I am scarring myself..... and not just because I am an ugly mofo To me, it is not how long you're in the gym... it is what you do why you are there... Intesity and Consistency are Paramount. Oh yeah, and eat plenty of fried chicken, whole milk and bacon. Ask any old farmer that usually lives to about 90+.

08-10-2006, 06:24 AM	#63
juggernaut Creator of Chaos Elite Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: NJ Posts: 5,463 Photos: 2	defintely going to try no shotgun. I currently use cee and damn it that stuff is great.

08-10-2006, 09:44 PM	#65
juggernaut Creator of Chaos Elite Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: NJ Posts: 5,463 Photos: 2	Read this on the label of NO Shotgun: NO-SHOTGUN™ is the most advanced product of its kind…Bar none! VPX is so confident in the effectiveness of NO-SHOTGUN™ that we have a $100,000 offer on the table to ANY supplement company that can conclusively prove – in a double-blind University Study – that their product is better at producing lean muscle, generating greater ATP production for more explosive workouts and initiating NO induced, blood engorged pumps.

08-11-2006, 09:52 AM	#70
Focus Defense Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: USA Posts: 590	Wow.. that's a claim - from a respectable company as well.

08-11-2006, 10:47 AM	#71
juggernaut Creator of Chaos Elite Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: NJ Posts: 5,463 Photos: 2	there's gotta be a catch

08-11-2006, 12:13 PM	#75
juggernaut Creator of Chaos Elite Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: NJ Posts: 5,463 Photos: 2	so its all a lot of sniff sniff bullshit? but wait is there a santa claus?

08-11-2006, 12:19 PM	#78
juggernaut Creator of Chaos Elite Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: NJ Posts: 5,463 Photos: 2	I'm still going to try it. I like the ingredients. CEE has worked really well for me. I have yet to try the NO part of it so I am interested. What abouta stack to help me grow big and strong like the hulkster? I say my prayers, eat my vitymins and stay in skool!!!

08-11-2006, 03:12 PM	#83
juggernaut Creator of Chaos Elite Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: NJ Posts: 5,463 Photos: 2	something funny motherf***er? Are you laughing because there's no Santa?? Here, listen and watch bitch! http://www.bordergatewayprotocol.net...imations/1.swf

08-12-2006, 10:33 AM	#85
Focus Defense Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: USA Posts: 590	Well I was expecting NO-shotgun for the holidays this year So now I'm in a lose/lose situation

08-22-2006, 12:55 AM	#88
Focus Defense Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: USA Posts: 590	I will too be using this product - every review/reply has been positive about this product... it's looking great.

08-22-2006, 10:16 AM	#89
Kuzinbo Junior "REDNECK" Member Elite Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Florida Posts: 72 Photos: 1	HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA>>>> cough cough..... weez... HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA To me, it is not how long you're in the gym... it is what you do why you are there... Intesity and Consistency are Paramount. Oh yeah, and eat plenty of fried chicken, whole milk and bacon. Ask any old farmer that usually lives to about 90+.

08-22-2006, 10:55 AM	#90
juggernaut Creator of Chaos Elite Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: NJ Posts: 5,463 Photos: 2	fuck is so funny?

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