What is the best legal ph around?

areacode516guy · 10-15-2006, 06:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gopro

Well, there is a reason why there is nothing that is going to make you grow like Halodrol, for example, and that is because most PH's are actually real steroids, and nothing ovet the counter is going to match their potency.

Right now I am personally using VPX NO Shotgun, ALRI Jungle Warfare, ALRI Restore, and my usual high amounts of BCAA/glutamine/CEE (all through a product called BodyFX CSM), and my results have been pretty amazing. Pretty close to a good PH cycle.

who makes "bodyfx csm"?

Conan · 10-30-2006, 05:27 PM

Pirates, every last one of you.

juggernaut · 10-30-2006, 07:07 PM

what is 1-androsterone? Apparently its supposed to be a clone of 1AD?

Brydges · 12-18-2006, 12:19 PM

I'm confused. From what I remember reading in my NO2 manual (it came with the product via mail, so what?) - or maybe I read it elsewhere, i.e., online - caffeine negates the effectiveness of an NO product. And yet I see products like NO-Explode with caffeine in them. What's the word?

I took NO-Explode and I had heart palpitations and jitters after one set of deadlifts, fifteen minutes into my workout. It was scary. And I think I only used one scoop. Thought it might have been the addition of the caffeine to the NO.

I used NO2 for several years right after it was introduced and loved it, but at $100 per bottle, I couldn't justify it after a time. I never had any problems with this product.

Anyway, some feedback on the caffeine/NO relationship would be appreciated, because as I noted at the outset, I thought combining them was a no-no.

Thanks.

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BigPapaPump68 · 12-18-2006, 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brydges

I'm confused. From what I remember reading in my NO2 manual (it came with the product via mail, so what?) - or maybe I read it elsewhere, i.e., online - caffeine negates the effectiveness of an NO product. And yet I see products like NO-Explode with caffeine in them. What's the word?

I took NO-Explode and I had heart palpitations and jitters after one set of deadlifts, fifteen minutes into my workout. It was scary. And I think I only used one scoop. Thought it might have been the addition of the caffeine to the NO.

I used NO2 for several years right after it was introduced and loved it, but at $100 per bottle, I couldn't justify it after a time. I never had any problems with this product.

Anyway, some feedback on the caffeine/NO relationship would be appreciated, because as I noted at the outset, I thought combining them was a no-no.

Thanks.

<->

N02 and epehdra is a no no

Brydges · 12-18-2006, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by BigPapaPump68

N02 and epehdra is a no no

Gotcha, but not necessarily NO and caffeine?

Thanks in advance for the clarification.

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BigPapaPump68 · 12-18-2006, 03:19 PM

Never heard about the N02 and caffeine but check this link out at the very bottom under warnings- http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/no2/no2.html

juggernaut · 12-18-2006, 03:25 PM

Products containing ephedra may reduce the effectiveness of NO2 if taken concurrently,and their use is not recommended.

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10-30-2006, 05:27 PM	#122
Conan Registered User Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 12	Pirates, every last one of you.

10-30-2006, 07:07 PM	#123
juggernaut Creator of Chaos Elite Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: NJ Posts: 5,463 Photos: 2	what is 1-androsterone? Apparently its supposed to be a clone of 1AD?

12-18-2006, 12:19 PM	#124
Brydges Registered User Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 19	I'm confused. From what I remember reading in my NO2 manual (it came with the product via mail, so what?) - or maybe I read it elsewhere, i.e., online - caffeine negates the effectiveness of an NO product. And yet I see products like NO-Explode with caffeine in them. What's the word? I took NO-Explode and I had heart palpitations and jitters after one set of deadlifts, fifteen minutes into my workout. It was scary. And I think I only used one scoop. Thought it might have been the addition of the caffeine to the NO. I used NO2 for several years right after it was introduced and loved it, but at $100 per bottle, I couldn't justify it after a time. I never had any problems with this product. Anyway, some feedback on the caffeine/NO relationship would be appreciated, because as I noted at the outset, I thought combining them was a no-no. Thanks. <->

12-18-2006, 03:19 PM	#127
BigPapaPump68 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: USA Posts: 1,385	Never heard about the N02 and caffeine but check this link out at the very bottom under warnings- http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/no2/no2.html

12-18-2006, 03:25 PM	#128
juggernaut Creator of Chaos Elite Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: NJ Posts: 5,463 Photos: 2	Products containing ephedra may reduce the effectiveness of NO2 if taken concurrently,and their use is not recommended.