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Old 07-24-2006, 11:26 PM   #1
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What is the best legal ph around?

My favorite was 1-AD, however it is illegal now. So I am wondering what the best stuff is now adays.



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superdrol or halodrol
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there are none, PH's are all illegal.



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there are none, PH's are all illegal.
Correct, but I will say Halodrol..................





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Correct, but I will say Halodrol..................
not a PH.



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Hmm, I was under the impression it was.



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Hmm, I was under the impression it was.
Pro-hormones were banned, they were compounds that were one conversion away from being active hormones. Everything on the market today is an anabolic steroid, i.e. no conversion necessary.

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Pro-hormones were banned, they were compounds that were one conversion away from being active hormones. Everything on the market today is an anabolic steroid, i.e. no conversion necessary.

Sounds like you need to do some research before you start using them!
Along those lines, they are also illegal to have in your possesion. I believe they fall under the same restrictions as scheduled 3 substances.

Robert, this is an accurate statement, correct?



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The only ones that are legal now are liquid based and the only reason why they are legal is because they contain such a small amount that the FDA does not care because they have no possible effect. Don't waste your money on any of those liquid HGH or Prohormone formulas.



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Along those lines, they are also illegal to have in your possesion. I believe they fall under the same restrictions as scheduled 3 substances.

Robert, this is an accurate statement, correct?
yup, PH's are classified as schedule III drugs just like any other anabolic steroid.



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not a PH.
How about this? Halodrol-Anabolic Steroid

How's That?





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How about this? Halodrol-Anabolic Precursor
i think youre missing the point, its actually an anabolic steroid, not a precursor



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i think youre missing the point, its actually an anabolic steroid, not a precursor
It was a sarcastic remark



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Im not planning to use any phs. Im gonna see how this tribal stuff goes. i am already big as I want to be, for the moment.



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Although Halodrol will have some efficacy without conversion, it still need to convert to 4-chlorodehydromethyltestosterone in the body before it becomes truly effective. In that sense, it is still prohormone-like. Kind of the same way that 4-Androstenediol was.



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Although Halodrol will have some efficacy without conversion, it still need to convert to 4-chlorodehydromethyltestosterone in the body before it becomes truly effective. In that sense, it is still prohormone-like. Kind of the same way that 4-Androstenediol was.
you may be correct Eric, but I have no idea what these compounds are:

[6, 17-keto-etiocholeve-3-ol tetrahydropyranol]
[3, 17-keto-etiochol-triene]
[3’,5,7-trihydroxy-4’-methoxyflavone]
[3,2-c pyrazole-5alpha-etioallocholane-17beta-tetrahydropyranol]

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you may be correct Eric, but I have no idea what these compounds are:

[6, 17-keto-etiocholeve-3-ol tetrahydropyranol]
[3, 17-keto-etiochol-triene]
[3’,5,7-trihydroxy-4’-methoxyflavone]
[3,2-c pyrazole-5alpha-etioallocholane-17beta-tetrahydropyranol]

how do you know?
you scared me, i was like. HOW DOES HE KNOW MY NAME?!



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you may be correct Eric, but I have no idea what these compounds are:

[6, 17-keto-etiocholeve-3-ol tetrahydropyranol]
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[3’,5,7-trihydroxy-4’-methoxyflavone]
[3,2-c pyrazole-5alpha-etioallocholane-17beta-tetrahydropyranol]

how do you know?
Well, we are talking about Halodrol which is:

([3,2-c]pyrazole-5alpha-etioallocholane-17beta-tetrahydropyranol 25mg)

This converts to Oral Turinabol in the body basically.

I have a damn good idea of what compounds are because of what I do and who I speak with on a daily basis. Writing a book with Author L Rea certainly helps, LOL!



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All this being said Methyl Masterdrol because it's easier to find than SD.Or any of the other quality SD knock off's.
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Eric, we know who you are, we know what you are, we know where you go...and we will not stop until you are...terminated....
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so to ask the original question; what is a good anabolic substance?
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Eric, we know who you are, we know what you are, we know where you go...and we will not stop until you are...terminated....
Bring it on...but bring it hard cause if you don't kill me quick, you ain't gonna survive!!!

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so to ask the original question; what is a good anabolic substance?
Of what is still out, I feel the best, like mentioned, is still Halodrol by Gaspari. For non-hormonal anabolic activity, I highly recommend ALRI Jungle Warfare.



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does haladrol need to be coupled with any others supps like novedex xt or is that a luxury stack?
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Halodrol does not need to be "coupled" with anything, however, post cycle therapy WOULD BE necessary (test booster, liver care).



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Halodrol does not need to be "coupled" with anything, however, post cycle therapy WOULD BE necessary (test booster, liver care).
I kind of figured that...any favorites? Or just saw palmetto and anabolic matrix?
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