Creatine Ethyl Ester?

**Drummy31** · 08-09-2006, 04:56 PM

my appologies if this has been covered before, but i searched and couldnt really find what i was looking for.

when i was browsing on the site, i found the add for CEE, and being a non-responder to monohydrate, i was a bit curious and clicked on the link. i read a bit about Rob's product, and then thanks to google, did a bit more research. my question for all you experienced fellas is...

if i am taking a pre-workout supplement such as NO-xplode or SuperPump250, would i stop taking that and just use the CEE for the time being, or could i take the NO before hand, and take the CEE afterwards like i did the mono? (I dont really know to much about these products, only what i read on this site.)

so far, i like the pumps that i get from NO (whether it be placebo or not), but i am not really seeing any size gains. also, if you have any other CEE supplements you would reccomend, i would appreciate it.

PS: when my NO runs out, i am debating whether to try SP250 or just get more NO. anyone have experience with both of them? thanks a bunch

**Prince** · 08-09-2006, 05:25 PM

You can use an NO product along with CEE.

Every CM non-responder I have heard from responds great to CEE.

Buy IronMagLabs CEE and support this board!

**Drummy31** · 08-09-2006, 05:39 PM

haha... i was most likely going to buy yours. its a great price, and most importantly, from the reviews i have read on the board, it does its job!

my question now is, how would i go about taking the two supplements in coordination with eachother? would i just take 2 scoops of the NO a half hour before workout as reccemmended, and then take the normal 4 capsules (1 serving) of CEE right after i lift? would i need to take the other 4 capsules at a different time of the day to get the full amount in? also, would i need to take it on an empty stomach, or does it not matter.

one more thing... rob, you say i can take NO with CEE, but would i get better results from just taking the CEE before workouts on its own and ditching the NO?

also, is there any other products i should look into that work well with CEE? how does SuperPump250 compare to NO-Xplode? they are about the same price from what i have seen, but are they comperable.

sorry for so many Q's, i am a noob, and like everyone else, i just wanna make sure that i am getting the most out of my efforts at the gym. thanks again guys

**vinceforheismen** · 08-10-2006, 01:12 PM

iv been taking bulk cee for a couple months now and i have found i have gained very little strenght. i know u can be a non responder to creatine monohydrate but can u be a non responder to CEE?

**Prince** · 08-10-2006, 02:30 PM

Originally Posted by vinceforheismen

iv been taking bulk cee for a couple months now and i have found i have gained very little strenght. i know u can be a non responder to creatine monohydrate but can u be a non responder to CEE?

possibly, or your CEE might be shit.

High Quality CEE

**BigDyl** · 08-10-2006, 03:07 PM

I'm going to create another CEE thread.

**katt** · 08-10-2006, 05:00 PM

Originally Posted by Drummy31

haha... i was most likely going to buy yours. its a great price, and most importantly, from the reviews i have read on the board, it does its job!

my question now is, how would i go about taking the two supplements in coordination with eachother? would i just take 2 scoops of the NO a half hour before workout as reccemmended, and then take the normal 4 capsules (1 serving) of CEE right after i lift? would i need to take the other 4 capsules at a different time of the day to get the full amount in? also, would i need to take it on an empty stomach, or does it not matter.

one more thing... rob, you say i can take NO with CEE, but would i get better results from just taking the CEE before workouts on its own and ditching the NO?

also, is there any other products i should look into that work well with CEE? how does SuperPump250 compare to NO-Xplode? they are about the same price from what i have seen, but are they comperable.

sorry for so many Q's, i am a noob, and like everyone else, i just wanna make sure that i am getting the most out of my efforts at the gym. thanks again guys

If I can put my two cents it -

I've taken both Superpump and no-Xplode. Personally I liked the Superpump WAY better, after my workouts & taking creatine during it was amazing,,,, but,,,, after about 2 weeks it began doing a number on my ..err.. "intestinal system" so I had to quit taking it or spend all day in the john... So, now I am taking the No-Xplode, which I think tastes like crap, but my system seems to handle it better! I don't get the intense "pump" as long, but it beats the consequenses.

**Drummy31** · 08-10-2006, 05:07 PM

Originally Posted by katt

If I can put my two cents it -

I've taken both Superpump and no-Xplode. Personally I liked the Superpump WAY better, after my workouts & taking creatine during it was amazing,,,, but,,,, after about 2 weeks it began doing a number on my ..err.. "intestinal system" so I had to quit taking it or spend all day in the john... So, now I am taking the No-Xplode, which I think tastes like crap, but my system seems to handle it better! I don't get the intense "pump" as long, but it beats the consequenses.

i get the same problems with the NO, not very bad at all tho. do you think it would help to not take the superpump on off days? thats what i do with the NO and it seems to be a bit better for the bathroom's sake.

**katt** · 08-10-2006, 05:12 PM

Originally Posted by Drummy31

i get the same problems with the NO, not very bad at all tho. do you think it would help to not take the superpump on off days? thats what i do with the NO and it seems to be a bit better for the bathroom's sake.

That's what I usually did, but I don't really know what happened with my system.. I stopped taking it completely for 2 weeks thinking that it would resolve itself, then the first day back on, my problems came back..

so,, until I find something that tastes better than the NO and works as well,,,...well, I guess I'm just out of luck

**Seanp156** · 08-10-2006, 05:43 PM

Originally Posted by katt

That's what I usually did, but I don't really know what happened with my system.. I stopped taking it completely for 2 weeks thinking that it would resolve itself, then the first day back on, my problems came back..

so,, until I find something that tastes better than the NO and works as well,,,...well, I guess I'm just out of luck

Seriously, try VNS Jacked, or Universal's Storm.

**katt** · 08-10-2006, 05:47 PM

Originally Posted by Seanp156

Seriously, try VNS Jacked, or Universal's Storm.

I'll look into them - do you like the way they work? Is the price comparable? Really, they are all expensive, so why do I even ask?

**Drummy31** · 08-10-2006, 06:17 PM

Originally Posted by Seanp156

Seriously, try VNS Jacked, or Universal's Storm.

would these be taken in place of NO, and you can still take the CEE post-workout, or would you just take these on their own?

**katt** · 08-11-2006, 08:45 AM

I just looked at one of them and it has 3000 mg of CEE in it.. so my guess is it would replace the NO

**MCx2** · 08-11-2006, 09:14 AM

I definitely recommend Rob's CEE. I've been taking it for a few weeks now with good results.

**dontsurfonmytur** · 08-12-2006, 12:24 AM

Originally Posted by Seanp156

Seriously, try VNS Jacked, or Universal's Storm.

No, Universal's Storm is a post workout formula, if you want a product like No xplode or sp250, get Universal's Shock Therapy. It's cheap and has 50 servings, also on the label it doesnt say use 1-3 scoops it says just use one scoop it should do the trick.

**Seanp156** · 08-13-2006, 12:07 PM

Originally Posted by katt

I'll look into them - do you like the way they work? Is the price comparable? Really, they are all expensive, so why do I even ask?

They're both pretty cheap for the amount of servings you get... Storm is about $25 for 80 servings, and Jacked is about $33 for 60 servings.

Originally Posted by Drummy31

would these be taken in place of NO, and you can still take the CEE post-workout, or would you just take these on their own?

Yeah, they would be... They both have creatine and NO ingredients. You'd want to take these before your workout. If you have bulk-CEE I'd use that after working out along with these, or some other time in the day. If I have plain CEE around, I don't waste products like these if I'm not working out on a given day.

Originally Posted by dontsurfonmytur

No, Universal's Storm is a post-workout formula, if you want a product like No xplode or sp250, get Universal's Shock Therapy. It's cheap and has 50 servings, also on the label it doesnt say use 1-3 scoops it says just use one scoop it should do the trick.

I've never read anywhere the Storm is scrictly a post workout formula... Plus, I never bother taking creatine/NO2 products after a workout, I don't see the point. Look at the ingredients, that's the key. What makes a pre-workout formula different from a post-workout formula? Why would they bother putting NO2 in if it were just a post-workout formula?

The main difference I see between Shock Therapy and Storm is that Shock Therapy has vitamin B, and caffeine.

**katt** · 08-14-2006, 09:22 AM

I may try the Universal products. It's says 1-3 scoops on the S250 also, but I have to do the 3 scoops to notice the difference.

**Seanp156** · 08-14-2006, 09:38 AM

Originally Posted by katt

I may try the Universal products. It's says 1-3 scoops on the S250 also, but I have to do the 3 scoops to notice the difference.

I just used 1 most of time time... Sometimes 1.5 if I was particularly tired.

**katt** · 08-14-2006, 09:46 AM

I guess that means I'm a supplement junkie

**juggernaut** · 08-18-2006, 02:22 PM

Originally Posted by Robert DiMaggio

possibly, or your CEE might be shit.

High Quality CEE

keep pimpin Robert. You're doing a great job.

Well gotta go order the CEE from IRONMAG!!!!!!!!

**vince20** · 08-19-2006, 08:12 PM

out of the three wich is the best ULTIMATE NUTRITIONS HORSE POWER, DYMTIZE NUTRITION XPAND, OR CE2

**Drummy31** · 08-21-2006, 06:47 PM

if i was gonna take maximum pump pre-workout, should i take double servings of CEE after i lift since i didnt take any before, or would the regular 3 grams post-workout be enough per day.

i prolly could have worded that better but w/e... thanks

**Mudge** · 08-21-2006, 07:04 PM

CEE is the only creatine I have ever used that I feel works for me, and I have trained and tried creatine for a number of years.

I do 5mg a day split into two doses, doesn't taste delicious but thats life. I take it with diarginine malate, AAKG is another popular additive, you can go with either one.

**Drummy31** · 08-21-2006, 09:08 PM

but i was thinking about getting both because from what i have read, the maximum pump gives you good pumps (obviously), and the CEE would be good post-workout. my question is this... i am getting max pump and CEE, i am taking the max pump before i lift, and the CEE after. the CEE directions say to take it before and after, but since im not taking it before (im using the max pump), should i take more CEE than they suggest afterwards so i can get the full daily amount they say, or would just 1 serving of 3 grams a day after i lift be enough?

**juggernaut** · 08-22-2006, 04:59 AM

Originally Posted by Drummy31

but i was thinking about getting both because from what i have read, the maximum pump gives you good pumps (obviously), and the CEE would be good post-workout. my question is this... i am getting max pump and CEE, i am taking the max pump before i lift, and the CEE after. the CEE directions say to take it before and after, but since im not taking it before (im using the max pump), should i take more CEE than they suggest afterwards so i can get the full daily amount they say, or would just 1 serving of 3 grams a day after i lift be enough?

use them both synergistically, and read the bottle on both. Stop thinking so much.

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