What supplements you have wasted your money on?

**bigss75** · 05-22-2002, 01:18 PM

I saw this in another website. What supplement did you buy that didn't work or waste of your money. For me it was Cytodyne. I payed Fifty bucks for this stuff and it didn't do anything.

**budo** · 05-22-2002, 01:24 PM

Acetabolan by muscletech was my biggest waste. Fortunately that was years ago, and it's all behind me now.

**Prince** · 05-22-2002, 10:41 PM

How about Smilax! Remember that crap back in the 80's?

**British Bulldog** · 05-23-2002, 04:51 AM

GABBA.... that stuff was wierd, but it did f**k all in the way of helping me grow

**Tank316** · 05-23-2002, 05:33 AM

ah yes, snake oils and broken promises and a empty f'ing check book.

**I Are Baboon** · 05-23-2002, 07:01 AM

Worldwide Nutrition bottled protein drinks. All that does is make me sick. And their bars give me the shits!!!

**kuso** · 05-23-2002, 07:05 AM

Anyone remember Cybergenics :o :o :o :o HEY

I was a kid and didn`t know any better

**ZECH** · 05-23-2002, 07:19 AM

Originally posted by I Are Baboon
Worldwide Nutrition bottled protein drinks. All that does is make me sick. And their bars give me the shits!!!

Actually I think worldwide makes quality products!

**ZECH** · 05-23-2002, 07:31 AM

Originally posted by Prince
How about Smilax! Remember that crap back in the 80's?

I can remember taking that in 1986!!

**nikegurl** · 05-23-2002, 10:11 AM

remember Hot Stuff? i umm.....actually liked it.

wasted lots of money on crappy bars (all in the past now!)

**Prince** · 05-23-2002, 10:29 AM

Originally posted by nikegurl
remember Hot Stuff? i umm.....actually liked it.

The first edition of Hot Stuff had "something" in it, cause it worked! Then they got inspected or something by the FDA and it was removed from the shelves. The second batch sucked.

**Prince** · 05-23-2002, 10:30 AM

Originally posted by kuso
Anyone remember Cybergenics :o :o :o :o HEY

I was a kid and didn`t know any better

Yes I do! In 1991 I bought the package! Followed it religously too.

**gettinstarted18** · 05-23-2002, 01:21 PM

what was this product supposed to do?
Did you use it correctly?

**Prince** · 05-23-2002, 01:26 PM

Originally posted by gettinstarted18
what was this product supposed to do?
Did you use it correctly?

which one?

**gettinstarted18** · 05-23-2002, 01:30 PM

cytodyne

**bigss75** · 05-23-2002, 03:40 PM

It was a supplement to build muscle and keep your body in a anticatabolic state. It also was supose to have noticable strenght gains. bench before 255 bench after 255. Boy I am so stupid.

**Xeldrine** · 05-27-2002, 04:53 PM

All kinds.....

**bigss75** · 05-27-2002, 07:02 PM

post padding

How is the picture gallery Xeldrine?

**the_menace** · 05-31-2002, 02:22 PM

Protein bars. I used to eat a whole box in one day. Should've spent it on quality proteins such as whey and chickens.

**ZECH** · 05-31-2002, 02:44 PM

[QUOTE]Originally posted by the_menace
Protein bars. I used to eat a whole box in one day.

Wow! Did you gain weight??

**the_menace** · 05-31-2002, 02:51 PM

[QUOTE]Originally posted by dg806

Originally posted by the_menace
Protein bars. I used to eat a whole box in one day.

Wow! Did you gain weight??

Ya...fat weight.

It was wrong. Those crap has tons of sugar in it especially Muscletech's.

**ragingbull** · 05-31-2002, 02:54 PM

Boron, I use to take that crap years ago and felt like I was going to die of a racing heart and sweats.

**Scotophile** · 05-31-2002, 05:29 PM

Amid the crap out there these are a few of the supplements that do work:

5-HTP and St. John's Wort: antidepression

5-HTP is one biological step from serotonin and the body and brain uses 5-HTP for the production of this neurotransmitter.

Saint John's Wort: Stimulates the output of serotonin in the brain
and has some monoamine oxidase inhibition effects which stops
the break down of several of the brain's neurotransmitters.
(St John's Wort blocks the cytocrome P-450 electron transport pathway in the liver. If you are taking any other medications or
drugs they will not be allowed to work for you as well as long as you ingest St. John's Wort).

Guggullipids lower cholesterol.

In doses of as much as 4-6 grams daily guggul lipids lower low density lipoproteins (bad cholesterol) by as much as 11%
and it increases high density lipoproteins (good cholesterol) slightly. Guggul interferes with cholesterol production in the liver.

Caffeine and Effedra cause weight loss.

This combination, called a pseudoamphedimine, increases overall
cellular activity which burns calories faster even at rest.
They also produce a hell of an energy increase for over 4 hours.
Caffeine prevents the breakdown of natural epinephrine
and inhances its overall effect on the brain. The brain mistakes
ephedra and pseudophederine for natural epinephrine.

Saw Plametto shrinks age related and chemically induced swollen prostates.

Oat Bran and Garlic have been shown to reduce cholesterol if taken in large quantities over a long period of time.

There are several other effective herbs out there. Mind you, NOT
related to muscular growth or function. 99.99% of products which are said to produce that are really only for enlargment of the funds of the false advertiser. Protein and creatine are the
only two products out there which have a tiny claim to true
effectivness in this arena. Fraudulent claims are the rule elsewhere.

**Mudge** · 06-01-2002, 02:22 AM

Boron is one I remember, proven to increase testosterone production in old women, great stuff (sarcasm).

Powdered bull testicles was another 80's fad.

Hot Stuff (original) was AWESOME, one day and I saw a difference (yes, really, although I about double or tripple dosed). I remember trying it later and not having the same results, hmm.

Overall, diet and sleep are important, yet hard to achieve I know

**plouffe** · 11-20-2003, 10:04 AM

Originally posted by Scotophile
Amid the crap out there these are a few of the supplements that do work:

5-HTP and St. John's Wort: antidepression

5-HTP is one biological step from serotonin and the body and brain uses 5-HTP for the production of this neurotransmitter.

Saint John's Wort: Stimulates the output of serotonin in the brain
and has some monoamine oxidase inhibition effects which stops
the break down of several of the brain's neurotransmitters.
(St John's Wort blocks the cytocrome P-450 electron transport pathway in the liver. If you are taking any other medications or
drugs they will not be allowed to work for you as well as long as you ingest St. John's Wort).

Guggullipids lower cholesterol.

In doses of as much as 4-6 grams daily guggul lipids lower low density lipoproteins (bad cholesterol) by as much as 11%
and it increases high density lipoproteins (good cholesterol) slightly. Guggul interferes with cholesterol production in the liver.

Caffeine and Effedra cause weight loss.

This combination, called a pseudoamphedimine, increases overall
cellular activity which burns calories faster even at rest.
They also produce a hell of an energy increase for over 4 hours.
Caffeine prevents the breakdown of natural epinephrine
and inhances its overall effect on the brain. The brain mistakes
ephedra and pseudophederine for natural epinephrine.

Saw Plametto shrinks age related and chemically induced swollen prostates.

Oat Bran and Garlic have been shown to reduce cholesterol if taken in large quantities over a long period of time.

There are several other effective herbs out there. Mind you, NOT
related to muscular growth or function. 99.99% of products which are said to produce that are really only for enlargment of the funds of the false advertiser. Protein and creatine are the
only two products out there which have a tiny claim to true
effectivness in this arena. Fraudulent claims are the rule elsewhere.

I love St. Johns Wart! Take like 8 times the given serving like 25 minutes before you sleep. You'll have the most vivid, realist, weird dreams ever!! Then you wake up fried out:-/... drink alotta water tho.. prolly kills the liver.

**topolo** · 11-20-2003, 10:11 AM

remember vanadyl sulfate?

NO2 sucked too

**phreakypat** · 11-20-2003, 10:19 AM

HMB. Used on cows. Like I am one...

**Trent54** · 11-20-2003, 11:20 AM

I did all of the usual suspects: Cybergenics, Smilax, Hot Stuff, various amino acid pills & protein bars.

I remember this one bar called Lee Haney Mass builder or something. It was huge and gross. My friends and I used to joke that it was Lee Haney's shit.

**Testosterone** · 11-20-2003, 11:22 AM

Chitosan is by far the shittiest of supplements I used. They said it would block your Carbs!

Muscletech Ad Claims are so over the roof that I pledge to stay away from their supplements in future!

**andyo** · 11-21-2003, 08:45 AM

I remember using GNC brand Weight Gainer 1800 when it first came out in the early 90's....tasted like shit and was even worse of a product.

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