EST supplement Log...

John69 · 01-10-2007, 02:22 PM

today was 1st day on EST products. here goes

Methyl mass-
Taste: shit
taken: pre-workout
color: powder is blue, when mixed it turns purple/black
Mixes: well in water
energy: shitload and head rush and felt jittery
scoops: i mixed only 1 scoop
etc: made me crap , other than that and the taste its a pretty good product.

Methyl Vol-
taste: its a pill
color: purpleish
pills taken: 2 pre workout
etc: prolly to soon to give results so...

NoXtreme-
taken: pre & post workout
pills taken: 2 pre and 2 post
etc: decent pump, decent vasularity toda.

Ester-Sized-
Taste: kinda sourish, kinda like lemonade
mixed in: water, mixed well and was easy to down
taken: 1 scoop pre and 1 scoop post workout
etc: muscle fullness and decent pump...

Overall: decent so far, good vascularity, decent pump, muscle fullness is decent... but its just day 1.

zombul · 01-10-2007, 02:34 PM

That looks good so far but do you think it may be difficult to tell which product is responsible for certain results.Example the NO Extreme may be the reason for your awesome energy.I love the idea of this stack,just remember you are almost going to have to rate this as a stack.And I bet your Methyl Vol(the key compound)to this stack will begin to show you results in about a week or so.Kick ass stack and I will definately be following it.
Just to make sure your in the clear,do you have a pct planned?Methy Vol is just a SD clone.What dosage are you running the Methy Vol at?

Anyways just food for thought I hope you keep this updated!

zombul · 01-10-2007, 02:37 PM

I also wanted to note that I belive Methyl Vol is 12mg of the SD compound,so I wouldn't take two pills together.Try one dose at a time.Maybe one in the morning or early in the day and one in the evening.SD is a very potent compound man.

zombul · 01-10-2007, 02:40 PM

Sorry I'm running up my post count in your thread but I just wanted to make sure you have been training awhile and are atleast 21.Just looking out for you.I remember shooting you a message so I assume you are old enough and know what your doing.Good luck.

John69 · 01-10-2007, 02:44 PM

ok thanks..i'm taking 2 mythelvol aday. eyah i will take 1 in the morning and 1 in the evening. ahh shii no i dont have a pct planned

. its not too late to figure something out anyway. what do u suggest for pct? test drive? how long should i take methyl vol for?

zombul · 01-10-2007, 03:01 PM

Don't take the MV for anything over3-4 weeks.Assuming you don't have Nolva or acess to any I would say to go with Rebound XT by Designer Supps.Start as soon as you finish your MV cycle.I would also use some Milk Thistle as a liver protectant about 1000mg a day.Remember to drink lots of water and expect those "back pumps"though some people take Taurine to help with the cramping.You may also want some Red Yeast Rice @1200mg a day and CoQ10 @ about 70mg a day.If you take the Red Yeast Rice make sure and take the CoQ10.I also eat like a horse while taking this stuff,seems to help alot.
You may want to stop the MV until you have a little more info on it.Be careul and use common sense and do some research and if you feel your ready and old enough to make that step the stuff I posted above may help.

John69 · 01-10-2007, 03:14 PM

ok...i'm gonna stop the MV until next week. i will do a 3-4 weeks cycle of it tho. i'm going to get milk thistle, rebound xt, CoQ10, and Red Yeast Rice. i will also start a training journal. but i'm going to keep up this journal but w.o the MV for now.

zombul · 01-10-2007, 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John69

ok...i'm gonna stop the MV until next week. i will do a 3-4 weeks cycle of it tho. i'm going to get milk thistle, rebound xt, CoQ10, and Red Yeast Rice. i will also start a training journal. but i'm going to keep up this journal but w.o the MV for now.

zombul · 01-10-2007, 03:25 PM

Also you may want to double check because the Methyl Mass may have small amounts of the SD formula as well.I will try and verify that but I am pretty sure.

zombul · 01-10-2007, 03:29 PM

I just checked it out and it actually contain's amounts of Methyl 1P which is also a "pro hormone".

John69 · 01-10-2007, 04:34 PM

ok ...so all i need is i'm going to get milk thistle, rebound xt, CoQ10, and Red Yeast Rice. but i'm going to be only taking methylmass on workout days @1scoop. because its pricey.

John69 · 01-10-2007, 06:07 PM

aslo..one more Q. should i increase the dosage after a few weeks? like -
week 1: 2 cap
week 2: 2 cap
week 3: 3caps
week 4: 3caps

something like that or just 2caps/day for total stack

JasnoE · 01-10-2007, 06:57 PM

Whats the SD formula

John69 · 01-10-2007, 08:18 PM

ok this review thread will continue on monday. as for now, i'm off to cook a steak.

zombul · 01-11-2007, 11:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John69

ok ...so all i need is i'm going to get milk thistle, rebound xt, CoQ10, and Red Yeast Rice. but i'm going to be only taking methylmass on workout days @1scoop. because its pricey.

zombul · 01-11-2007, 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John69

aslo..one more Q. should i increase the dosage after a few weeks? like -
week 1: 2 cap
week 2: 2 cap
week 3: 3caps
week 4: 3caps

something like that or just 2caps/day for total stack

You could go 2 weeks at 20mg a day and the 30mg the last wk or 2.Just put that other dose in the middle of the day.

John69 · 01-11-2007, 06:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zombul

You could go 2 weeks at 20mg a day and the 30mg the last wk or 2.Just put that other dose in the middle of the day.

alright i'll go liek this

Week 1: MV: 2caps
milkthistle: 1,000mg
CoQ10: 70mg
Red Yeast Rice: 1200mg

Week 2: MV: 2caps
milkthistle: 1,000mg
CoQ10: 70mg
Red Yeast Rice: 1200mg

Week 3: MV: 2caps
milkthistle: 1,000mg
CoQ10: 70mg
Red Yeast Rice: 1200mg

Week 4: MV: 3caps
milkthistle: 1,000mg
CoQ10: 70mg
Red Yeast Rice: 1200mg

week 5-9: PCT Rebound xt 2caps/day

sounds good eh?

zombul · 01-12-2007, 07:17 AM

Yeah that looks pretty good man.

John69 · 01-12-2007, 01:17 PM

follow up on review:

methylmass-
1scoop
insane energy/focus/ headrush/ jittery/ gotta crap lol
etc: i spilt a small dab on counter and it stained the countertop :l . :nails:

no-xtreme-
muscle fullness/vascularity
alright...

ester sized-
muscle fullness/vascularity/
alright....

overall pretty good.

leg day...hoping for a new p.r on deads

John69 · 01-12-2007, 02:12 PM

new deadlift P.R

. 425lbs @ bw of 180lbs. 425 was fairly easy/medium...by the time i put 455lbs on my lowerback was to tired otherwise i knew i woulda had it.

but it was good..goal is 455

zombul · 01-12-2007, 03:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John69

new deadlift P.R

. 425lbs @ bw of 180lbs. 425 was fairly easy/medium...by the time i put 455lbs on my lowerback was to tired otherwise i knew i woulda had it.

but it was good..goal is 455

Thats a good lift man congrats.

John69 · 01-12-2007, 03:50 PM

thanks..... also wanna add that my crap was green.

...

John69 · 01-13-2007, 02:32 PM

nother review....today i took no-xplode, ester sized, and no-xtreme(i will be takin no-xplode on offdays

)

my crap was gree today again so it was the noxtreme or the estersized

. muscle fullness and vascularity is decent...

John69 · 01-15-2007, 04:31 PM

review update

1st day on MV

.

good workout (see in journal).

i'm going to rate this as a stack itself. so i'll just put what i think of the stack overall.

~ vascularity is good, great pump, good musclefullness, strength was decent, energy was pretty good.

etc: shit wasn't green today

.

zombul · 01-15-2007, 05:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JasnoE

Whats the SD formula

2a,17a di methyl etiocholan 3-one,17b-ol: 10mg.Called Methasteron.

John69 · 01-16-2007, 02:31 PM

Tuesday, January 16, 2007

overall: i give it a 8 out of 10

.

John69 · 01-16-2007, 09:11 PM

btw, today my crap was indeed green again :S

John69 · 01-17-2007, 09:37 PM

Tuesday, January 17, 2007

great WO.

energy was good, decent pump, etc good.

crap was green again el.oh.el

zombul · 01-18-2007, 09:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John69

Tuesday, January 17, 2007

great WO.

energy was good, decent pump, etc good.

crap was green again el.oh.el

I wonder if your turning into the Incredible Hulk,his shit is probably green too.
Is the intensity beginning to taper off?

John69 · 01-18-2007, 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zombul

I wonder if your turning into the Incredible Hulk,his shit is probably green too.
Is the intensity beginning to taper off?

i havn't really seen/felt any results yet

01-10-2007, 02:22 PM	#1
John69 Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 143	EST supplement Log... BODYBUILDING SUPPLEMENTS High Quality Supplements For Bodybuilders and Athletes. www.ironmaglabs.com today was 1st day on EST products. here goes Methyl mass- Taste: shit taken: pre-workout color: powder is blue, when mixed it turns purple/black Mixes: well in water energy: shitload and head rush and felt jittery scoops: i mixed only 1 scoop etc: made me crap , other than that and the taste its a pretty good product. Methyl Vol- taste: its a pill color: purpleish pills taken: 2 pre workout etc: prolly to soon to give results so... NoXtreme- taken: pre & post workout pills taken: 2 pre and 2 post etc: decent pump, decent vasularity toda. Ester-Sized- Taste: kinda sourish, kinda like lemonade mixed in: water, mixed well and was easy to down taken: 1 scoop pre and 1 scoop post workout etc: muscle fullness and decent pump... Overall: decent so far, good vascularity, decent pump, muscle fullness is decent... but its just day 1.
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01-10-2007, 02:44 PM	#5
John69 Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 143	ok thanks..i'm taking 2 mythelvol aday. eyah i will take 1 in the morning and 1 in the evening. ahh shii no i dont have a pct planned . its not too late to figure something out anyway. what do u suggest for pct? test drive? how long should i take methyl vol for?
John69 Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 143

01-10-2007, 03:14 PM	#7
John69 Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 143	ok...i'm gonna stop the MV until next week. i will do a 3-4 weeks cycle of it tho. i'm going to get milk thistle, rebound xt, CoQ10, and Red Yeast Rice. i will also start a training journal. but i'm going to keep up this journal but w.o the MV for now.
John69 Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 143

01-10-2007, 04:34 PM	#11
John69 Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 143	ok ...so all i need is i'm going to get milk thistle, rebound xt, CoQ10, and Red Yeast Rice. but i'm going to be only taking methylmass on workout days @1scoop. because its pricey.
John69 Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 143

01-10-2007, 06:07 PM	#12
John69 Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 143	aslo..one more Q. should i increase the dosage after a few weeks? like - week 1: 2 cap week 2: 2 cap week 3: 3caps week 4: 3caps something like that or just 2caps/day for total stack
John69 Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 143

01-10-2007, 02:34 PM	#2
zombul SB MUSCLE REP Elite Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Branson Posts: 1,589	That looks good so far but do you think it may be difficult to tell which product is responsible for certain results.Example the NO Extreme may be the reason for your awesome energy.I love the idea of this stack,just remember you are almost going to have to rate this as a stack.And I bet your Methyl Vol(the key compound)to this stack will begin to show you results in about a week or so.Kick ass stack and I will definately be following it. Just to make sure your in the clear,do you have a pct planned?Methy Vol is just a SD clone.What dosage are you running the Methy Vol at? Anyways just food for thought I hope you keep this updated!

01-10-2007, 02:37 PM	#3
zombul SB MUSCLE REP Elite Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Branson Posts: 1,589	I also wanted to note that I belive Methyl Vol is 12mg of the SD compound,so I wouldn't take two pills together.Try one dose at a time.Maybe one in the morning or early in the day and one in the evening.SD is a very potent compound man.

01-10-2007, 02:40 PM	#4
zombul SB MUSCLE REP Elite Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Branson Posts: 1,589	Sorry I'm running up my post count in your thread but I just wanted to make sure you have been training awhile and are atleast 21.Just looking out for you.I remember shooting you a message so I assume you are old enough and know what your doing.Good luck.

01-10-2007, 03:01 PM	#6
zombul SB MUSCLE REP Elite Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Branson Posts: 1,589	Don't take the MV for anything over3-4 weeks.Assuming you don't have Nolva or acess to any I would say to go with Rebound XT by Designer Supps.Start as soon as you finish your MV cycle.I would also use some Milk Thistle as a liver protectant about 1000mg a day.Remember to drink lots of water and expect those "back pumps"though some people take Taurine to help with the cramping.You may also want some Red Yeast Rice @1200mg a day and CoQ10 @ about 70mg a day.If you take the Red Yeast Rice make sure and take the CoQ10.I also eat like a horse while taking this stuff,seems to help alot. You may want to stop the MV until you have a little more info on it.Be careul and use common sense and do some research and if you feel your ready and old enough to make that step the stuff I posted above may help.

01-10-2007, 03:25 PM	#9
zombul SB MUSCLE REP Elite Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Branson Posts: 1,589	Also you may want to double check because the Methyl Mass may have small amounts of the SD formula as well.I will try and verify that but I am pretty sure.

01-10-2007, 03:29 PM	#10
zombul SB MUSCLE REP Elite Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Branson Posts: 1,589	I just checked it out and it actually contain's amounts of Methyl 1P which is also a "pro hormone".

01-10-2007, 06:57 PM	#13
JasnoE Registered User Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Santa Barbara, Ca. Posts: 59	Whats the SD formula

01-10-2007, 08:18 PM	#14
John69 Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 143	ok this review thread will continue on monday. as for now, i'm off to cook a steak.
John69 Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 143

01-12-2007, 07:17 AM	#18
zombul SB MUSCLE REP Elite Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Branson Posts: 1,589	Yeah that looks pretty good man.

01-12-2007, 01:17 PM	#19
John69 Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 143	follow up on review: methylmass- 1scoop insane energy/focus/ headrush/ jittery/ gotta crap lol etc: i spilt a small dab on counter and it stained the countertop :l . :nails: no-xtreme- muscle fullness/vascularity alright... ester sized- muscle fullness/vascularity/ alright.... overall pretty good. leg day...hoping for a new p.r on deads
John69 Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 143

01-12-2007, 02:12 PM	#20
John69 Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 143	new deadlift P.R . 425lbs @ bw of 180lbs. 425 was fairly easy/medium...by the time i put 455lbs on my lowerback was to tired otherwise i knew i woulda had it. but it was good..goal is 455
John69 Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 143

01-12-2007, 03:50 PM	#22
John69 Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 143	thanks..... also wanna add that my crap was green. ...
John69 Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 143

01-13-2007, 02:32 PM	#23
John69 Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 143	nother review....today i took no-xplode, ester sized, and no-xtreme(i will be takin no-xplode on offdays ) my crap was gree today again so it was the noxtreme or the estersized . muscle fullness and vascularity is decent...
John69 Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 143

01-15-2007, 04:31 PM	#24
John69 Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 143	review update 1st day on MV . good workout (see in journal). i'm going to rate this as a stack itself. so i'll just put what i think of the stack overall. ~ vascularity is good, great pump, good musclefullness, strength was decent, energy was pretty good. etc: shit wasn't green today .
John69 Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 143

01-16-2007, 02:31 PM	#26
John69 Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 143	Tuesday, January 16, 2007 overall: i give it a 8 out of 10 .
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01-16-2007, 09:11 PM	#27
John69 Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 143	btw, today my crap was indeed green again :S
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01-17-2007, 09:37 PM	#28
John69 Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 143	Tuesday, January 17, 2007 great WO. energy was good, decent pump, etc good. crap was green again el.oh.el
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