my life is at stake (LITERALLY) help me!

dontsurfonmytur · 02-10-2007, 01:22 PM

OK, ia m 17 turning 18 in 2 months.
Today when i went to go poo, blood came out also, it like dripped. Can supplements have anything to do with this??
The only different thing i have done in the last week or 2 is been taking Aderall. ( i was not prescribed so i cannot go to doctor, also i cannot afford going to the doctor)

i just need some advice, if i should stop taking all supplements in general, including whey.

a list of what i take it this:

aminovol
blitz cyclle
oxydrene
6-alpho oxo nolone
glutamine
whey sometimes

now i am like 95% sure it is the supplements, but just want to hear some input on this.

also i take
multi vit
vit c
emergen C
grape seed extract
co enzyme q 10
omega 3's and 6's
MSM
glucosamien and chondrine
ginseng, and an adaptogen
selenium
sprulina

is it the over taking of things?? because i do see that i take a lot fo things includign vitamins n stuff. someone plz

BoneCrusher · 02-10-2007, 01:29 PM

Any reason that your parents don't know this? You should be seeing A DOCTOR as you finish reading this post. Blood in your GI tract = a major deadly issue. If you haven't already ... then call the emergency room right now and tell them your symptoms. Now ... not ten minutes from now.

dontsurfonmytur · 02-10-2007, 01:31 PM

bone crusher i kno that i should, but you do not know my situation as i cannot relaly tell you. and i know that we cannot afford to do that. But my best guess would be hemmroids?? i've had blood come out of my anus before but not as much, it probably happened like once or twice but it was liek a tiny tiny tiny bit.

BoneCrusher · 02-10-2007, 01:37 PM

Phone calls are free. Calling the ER will get you started ... and the ER has to admit you and treat you. Not trying to meddle in your personal afairs, just trying to tell you that you absolutely must get seen by someone right now. It may not be from your GI tract but rather from outside the mentioned area ... but taking advice from someone on an internet chat forum is a good way to die ... today.

At least CALL the ER ...

0pete9 · 02-10-2007, 01:45 PM

do not play around with this my man. My brother had this problem and it was the start of colitis, which can cause blood in the stool. You may have a polyp. This is nothing to push to the side. Call a doctor immediatly because it can and will only get worse. Even if it were the supplements doing this to you that means there is something wrong internally.

KelJu · 02-10-2007, 01:48 PM

Bonecrusher is dead on. Please see a doctor ASAP.

Malley · 02-10-2007, 02:01 PM

If you are not going to go see a doctor then what else can anyone say to you? Kinda dumb to ask this question whenever the obvious answer is go to the doc. He wont say anything about taking nonprescription drugs. Hell he cant, its against the law. Best of luck, take their advice.

KOIronclub51 · 02-10-2007, 04:55 PM

hey man if your still having this problem i have a solution.

reason this could have happened....
number one- the selenium has an effect with the aderall because they both have a reactive acid in them called NArth+. too much of that stuff mixed could cuase a slight deteriation of the kidneys which in result is the blood you see comming out.

Heres your best option, lay off all suplements till your little problem is fixed. then slowly you can take them again. but dont take aderall any more...and maybe chill with the glucosamien and chondrine

and last if the problem continues you must see a doctor

KelJu · 02-10-2007, 04:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KOIronclub51

hey man if your still having this problem i have a solution.

reason this could have happened....
number one- the selenium has an effect with the aderall because they both have a reactive acid in them called NArth+. too much of that stuff mixed could cuase a slight deteriation of the kidneys which in result is the blood you see comming out.

Heres your best option, lay off all suplements till your little problem is fixed. then slowly you can take them again. but dont take aderall any more...and maybe chill with the glucosamien and chondrine

and last if the problem continues you must see a doctor

That isn't a solution. The kid is bleeding from his ass. Any solution that doesn't involve seeing a doctor this week is retarded.

ABCs · 02-10-2007, 04:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KelJu

That isn't a solution. The kid is bleeding from his ass. Any solution that doesn't involve seeing a doctor this week is retarded.

Agreed. Same shit was happening to a buddy of mine from work. Ended up he has a firggen pollup or some shit. And his mom just died from skin cancer so he was buggin' out. I advise dontsurf, you go see a doctor ASAP.

0pete9 · 02-10-2007, 06:05 PM

you may have an ulcer in your colon . Go to the doctor asap

**Prince** · 02-10-2007, 06:13 PM

agreed on seeing a doc.

I also agree on dropping all of the supps.

dontsurfonmytur · 02-11-2007, 03:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KOIronclub51

hey man if your still having this problem i have a solution.

reason this could have happened....
number one- the selenium has an effect with the aderall because they both have a reactive acid in them called NArth+. too much of that stuff mixed could cuase a slight deteriation of the kidneys which in result is the blood you see comming out.

Heres your best option, lay off all suplements till your little problem is fixed. then slowly you can take them again. but dont take aderall any more...and maybe chill with the glucosamien and chondrine

and last if the problem continues you must see a doctor

u said chill with the glucosamine ean chondrine? as in dont take it?? is it harmful or somethign?

BoneCrusher · 02-11-2007, 04:41 AM

No-one here can advise you on jack-shit. You're nervous about your condition so you post things that you see or feel about this condition. People here with little or no medical training who have an uncle in Pensacola with something that resembles the conditions you describe tell you

.

See what you need to realize is that YOU don't even really know what to post about your symptoms. You never mentioned if the blood is IN your stool as well as on it ... that drip you described was way to minimal. You go on to discuss sup's as though they are the culprit ... and give everyone here the subliminal directive to bag on sups. We have no idea what your actual symptoms are, what your medical history is ... or the medical history of your family that would aid in determining a genetic predisposition ... nor do we have any info on recent physical activities. Did you just have farm sex and not tell us ... is your idea of a good time to drink gasoline ... or more sensibly asked have you had a recent injury? Are you suffering from heartburn or diarrhea, vomiting or tingling sensations in your outer extremities? If you do vomit is there blood in the vomit? Starting to see the pattern here? No-one here has any idea of your actual medical circumstances ... and even if we did we are not qualified to diagnose the problem.

There is a member here who developed a condition. I am firmly convinced that this member's condition was severely exasperated by the input of all the do-gooders that posted in his thread. Everyone had a solution, the member followed this idea and that idea and sometimes those ideas were in direct conflict with each other. Other members argued and cursed each other over who was right and who was not. Ultimately this member came close to suicide ... like real close. Like in that last mental phase one enters into before pulling it off. I think the only reason he didn't do it is because of the love he has for his family ... if he were older and living alone he'd be dead right now. We don't need a repeat of that thread and you don't need to go through all that. You can get the basic medical care you need, regardless of how inconvenient it may be to get. The bills for my ex-wife's last fight with cancer are still coming in. I'm down to $28,000 from $82,000 two years ago. Medical treatment for serious shit is not necessarily easy to deal with ... but you need it. Go get some ... before your shit gets serious beyond anyone's ability to fix. Internal bleeding can lead to blood poisoning, liver failure, kidney failure, or septic shock ... and death from any of those conditions or about a million that I am not qualified to mention.

Finely this is not a medical forum. This is a fitness forum. We move heavy objects repetitively in defiance of gravity to help us defy time. We share our knowledge and experiences with each other as a matter of guidance and entertainment ... and gain major motivation through the process. We laugh, we joke, we learn, we even insult each other, but we do not diagnose medical conditions ... that is the work of a qualified Doctor.

Are we on the same page yet dontsurfonmytur? Do you get it? Go see a real doctor and forget what ever

you will read in this thread.

**P-funk** · 02-11-2007, 06:23 AM

everyone is right! Go to the doctor. Get in the ER!!

Don't worry if you can't afford it. Claim finanical hardship when the bill comes and prove your income (or lack there of) and things will work out.

Tier · 02-11-2007, 07:21 AM

Adderral messed with my stomach, that stuff is harsh. It could just be a fissure also but I would personally stop taking anything.

WillBrink · 02-11-2007, 09:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dontsurfonmytur

OK, ia m 17 turning 18 in 2 months.
Today when i went to go poo, blood came out also, it like dripped. Can supplements have anything to do with this??
The only different thing i have done in the last week or 2 is been taking Aderall. ( i was not prescribed so i cannot go to doctor, also i cannot afford going to the doctor)

i just need some advice, if i should stop taking all supplements in general, including whey.

a list of what i take it this:

aminovol
blitz cyclle
oxydrene
6-alpho oxo nolone
glutamine
whey sometimes

now i am like 95% sure it is the supplements, but just want to hear some input on this.

also i take
multi vit
vit c
emergen C
grape seed extract
co enzyme q 10
omega 3's and 6's
MSM
glucosamien and chondrine
ginseng, and an adaptogen
selenium
sprulina

is it the over taking of things?? because i do see that i take a lot fo things includign vitamins n stuff. someone plz

For a kid who can't afford to go see a doctor about blood coming out of his rear, you sure spend a lot of money on supps, many of which are pretty worthless. If blood continues to happen, best you see a medical professional vs asking strangers on a bbing forum. Many things can cause blood to come out of your rear, most not very serious, and a few VERY serious.

ebrake74 · 02-13-2007, 02:07 PM

You might want to try KY or Astroglide next time...Just kidding, go to the doctor!

Uthinkso · 02-13-2007, 02:49 PM

Doctor

AKIRA · 02-13-2007, 03:12 PM

I used to have bloody shit and blood on my asshole when I wiped.

I pushed too hard when I shit and wha-la, blood! I stopped pushing and wha-la! No more blood.

**Gazhole** · 02-13-2007, 04:49 PM

Dont be retarded. Who cares about saving money?

If you die, how the hell are you going to spend the money you DIDNT spend on the doctor that could have SAVED YOUR LIFE!?

Fucking hell, it doesnt take a theoretical physicist to workout that health > material wealth.

Also, Bonecrusher's last post (the long one) was 100% awesome. Do what HE says, do what EVERYONE here is saying and GO TO THE DOCTOR.

dontsurfonmytur · 02-14-2007, 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AKIRA

I used to have bloody shit and blood on my asshole when I wiped.

I pushed too hard when I shit and wha-la, blood! I stopped pushing and wha-la! No more blood.

ya man i belive i have internal hemmroids, the bleeding ws very veyr less severe today. Now my poopping time is less than oen minute
before it was at least 6 minutes, sometimes even 15 mins.
and i've been drinking horse chestnut extract to heal my hemroids

TrojanMan60563 · 02-15-2007, 12:43 AM

without a doubt you should go get checked out....blood is not supposed to come out of your ass...ever! It might be something very minor...or something real serious...don't wait too long bro.

Makaveli1 · 02-15-2007, 07:55 PM

Notice that this guy is ignoring all the suggestions to go to a doctor?, he's acting like you guys aren't even talking about it, just keeps going on and on about his "supplements" and how it might be hemmeroids..
go to a doctor...

02-10-2007, 01:22 PM	#1
dontsurfonmytur Registered User Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 1,007	my life is at stake (LITERALLY) help me! OK, ia m 17 turning 18 in 2 months. Today when i went to go poo, blood came out also, it like dripped. Can supplements have anything to do with this?? The only different thing i have done in the last week or 2 is been taking Aderall. ( i was not prescribed so i cannot go to doctor, also i cannot afford going to the doctor) i just need some advice, if i should stop taking all supplements in general, including whey. a list of what i take it this: aminovol blitz cyclle oxydrene 6-alpho oxo nolone glutamine whey sometimes now i am like 95% sure it is the supplements, but just want to hear some input on this. also i take multi vit vit c emergen C grape seed extract co enzyme q 10 omega 3's and 6's MSM glucosamien and chondrine ginseng, and an adaptogen selenium sprulina is it the over taking of things?? because i do see that i take a lot fo things includign vitamins n stuff. someone plz

02-10-2007, 01:37 PM	#4
BoneCrusher Lift or Die Elite Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Austin Texas Posts: 8,576	Phone calls are free. Calling the ER will get you started ... and the ER has to admit you and treat you. Not trying to meddle in your personal afairs, just trying to tell you that you absolutely must get seen by someone right now. It may not be from your GI tract but rather from outside the mentioned area ... but taking advice from someone on an internet chat forum is a good way to die ... today. At least CALL the ER ... Last edited by BoneCrusher : 02-10-2007 at 01:49 PM.

02-10-2007, 02:01 PM	#7
Malley Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Illinois Posts: 10,021	If you are not going to go see a doctor then what else can anyone say to you? Kinda dumb to ask this question whenever the obvious answer is go to the doc. He wont say anything about taking nonprescription drugs. Hell he cant, its against the law. Best of luck, take their advice.
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02-10-2007, 06:13 PM	#12
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02-11-2007, 06:23 AM	#15
P-funk Patrick Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: AZ Posts: 30,631	everyone is right! Go to the doctor. Get in the ER!! Don't worry if you can't afford it. Claim finanical hardship when the bill comes and prove your income (or lack there of) and things will work out.
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02-10-2007, 01:29 PM	#2
BoneCrusher Lift or Die Elite Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Austin Texas Posts: 8,576	Any reason that your parents don't know this? You should be seeing A DOCTOR as you finish reading this post. Blood in your GI tract = a major deadly issue. If you haven't already ... then call the emergency room right now and tell them your symptoms. Now ... not ten minutes from now.

02-10-2007, 01:31 PM	#3
dontsurfonmytur Registered User Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 1,007	bone crusher i kno that i should, but you do not know my situation as i cannot relaly tell you. and i know that we cannot afford to do that. But my best guess would be hemmroids?? i've had blood come out of my anus before but not as much, it probably happened like once or twice but it was liek a tiny tiny tiny bit.

02-10-2007, 01:45 PM	#5
0pete9 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Jersey Posts: 101	do not play around with this my man. My brother had this problem and it was the start of colitis, which can cause blood in the stool. You may have a polyp. This is nothing to push to the side. Call a doctor immediatly because it can and will only get worse. Even if it were the supplements doing this to you that means there is something wrong internally.

02-10-2007, 04:55 PM	#8
KOIronclub51 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 3	hey man if your still having this problem i have a solution. reason this could have happened.... number one- the selenium has an effect with the aderall because they both have a reactive acid in them called NArth+. too much of that stuff mixed could cuase a slight deteriation of the kidneys which in result is the blood you see comming out. Heres your best option, lay off all suplements till your little problem is fixed. then slowly you can take them again. but dont take aderall any more...and maybe chill with the glucosamien and chondrine and last if the problem continues you must see a doctor

02-10-2007, 06:05 PM	#11
0pete9 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Jersey Posts: 101	you may have an ulcer in your colon . Go to the doctor asap

02-11-2007, 04:41 AM	#14
BoneCrusher Lift or Die Elite Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Austin Texas Posts: 8,576	No-one here can advise you on jack-shit. You're nervous about your condition so you post things that you see or feel about this condition. People here with little or no medical training who have an uncle in Pensacola with something that resembles the conditions you describe tell you . See what you need to realize is that YOU don't even really know what to post about your symptoms. You never mentioned if the blood is IN your stool as well as on it ... that drip you described was way to minimal. You go on to discuss sup's as though they are the culprit ... and give everyone here the subliminal directive to bag on sups. We have no idea what your actual symptoms are, what your medical history is ... or the medical history of your family that would aid in determining a genetic predisposition ... nor do we have any info on recent physical activities. Did you just have farm sex and not tell us ... is your idea of a good time to drink gasoline ... or more sensibly asked have you had a recent injury? Are you suffering from heartburn or diarrhea, vomiting or tingling sensations in your outer extremities? If you do vomit is there blood in the vomit? Starting to see the pattern here? No-one here has any idea of your actual medical circumstances ... and even if we did we are not qualified to diagnose the problem. There is a member here who developed a condition. I am firmly convinced that this member's condition was severely exasperated by the input of all the do-gooders that posted in his thread. Everyone had a solution, the member followed this idea and that idea and sometimes those ideas were in direct conflict with each other. Other members argued and cursed each other over who was right and who was not. Ultimately this member came close to suicide ... like real close. Like in that last mental phase one enters into before pulling it off. I think the only reason he didn't do it is because of the love he has for his family ... if he were older and living alone he'd be dead right now. We don't need a repeat of that thread and you don't need to go through all that. You can get the basic medical care you need, regardless of how inconvenient it may be to get. The bills for my ex-wife's last fight with cancer are still coming in. I'm down to $28,000 from $82,000 two years ago. Medical treatment for serious shit is not necessarily easy to deal with ... but you need it. Go get some ... before your shit gets serious beyond anyone's ability to fix. Internal bleeding can lead to blood poisoning, liver failure, kidney failure, or septic shock ... and death from any of those conditions or about a million that I am not qualified to mention. Finely this is not a medical forum. This is a fitness forum. We move heavy objects repetitively in defiance of gravity to help us defy time. We share our knowledge and experiences with each other as a matter of guidance and entertainment ... and gain major motivation through the process. We laugh, we joke, we learn, we even insult each other, but we do not diagnose medical conditions ... that is the work of a qualified Doctor. Are we on the same page yet dontsurfonmytur? Do you get it? Go see a real doctor and forget what ever you will read in this thread.

02-11-2007, 07:21 AM	#16
Tier Your Pretend Friend Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Virginia Beach, VA Posts: 765	Adderral messed with my stomach, that stuff is harsh. It could just be a fissure also but I would personally stop taking anything.

02-13-2007, 02:07 PM	#18
ebrake74 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 118	You might want to try KY or Astroglide next time...Just kidding, go to the doctor!
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02-13-2007, 02:49 PM	#19
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02-13-2007, 03:12 PM	#20
AKIRA I am Rollo Tomassee.. Elite Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Outside the box Posts: 7,918 Photos: 3	I used to have bloody shit and blood on my asshole when I wiped. I pushed too hard when I shit and wha-la, blood! I stopped pushing and wha-la! No more blood.
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02-13-2007, 04:49 PM	#21
Gazhole iwillmakeyousmelltheglove Moderator Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Wales, UK Posts: 6,532 Photos: 18	Dont be retarded. Who cares about saving money? If you die, how the hell are you going to spend the money you DIDNT spend on the doctor that could have SAVED YOUR LIFE!? Fucking hell, it doesnt take a theoretical physicist to workout that health > material wealth. Also, Bonecrusher's last post (the long one) was 100% awesome. Do what HE says, do what EVERYONE here is saying and GO TO THE DOCTOR.
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02-15-2007, 12:43 AM	#23
TrojanMan60563 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: The U-S of A Posts: 2,995 Photos: 1	without a doubt you should go get checked out....blood is not supposed to come out of your ass...ever! It might be something very minor...or something real serious...don't wait too long bro.

02-15-2007, 07:55 PM	#24
Makaveli1 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: New York Posts: 20	Notice that this guy is ignoring all the suggestions to go to a doctor?, he's acting like you guys aren't even talking about it, just keeps going on and on about his "supplements" and how it might be hemmeroids.. go to a doctor...

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