Has anyone had any probs taking Nolva

Tahoe · 02-25-2007, 12:00 PM

Over the last couple of days I've been reading about it and it sounds like a fairly strong therapy???

One statement said something like..." It can be dangerous but if you are gonna die from cancer anyway...

So I thought I'd check to see if anyone has ever had any issues with it, or know anyone who has.

thanks

Tahoe · 02-26-2007, 04:18 PM

Not much luck on that one, so I'll try this one.

6oxo is an inhibitor, right? So Nolva binds to the receptor. So wouldn't one want to pick one of the other. Either block it at the receptor or inhibit it from being created? Or am I way off? thanks

BigPapaPump68 · 02-26-2007, 06:46 PM

Myslef nor anyone that I know of has ever had any problems taking nolva. 6oxo works alot like nolva does. Most people use it for their pct. Neither of the two will completely get rid of your estrogen which would not be very smart. IMO, I would always go with Nolva over 6oxo. Some people beg to differ, but it's on your personal likeings.

Tahoe · 02-26-2007, 07:01 PM

Thank you very much. One more questions if you have time... Wouldn't a good pct have something to kick start the natural test production? Nolva doesn't do that, right? It block estrogen at the receptors, iirc.

BigPapaPump68 · 02-26-2007, 07:28 PM

Nolva will help with the rebound. Some people use clomid also, but IMO the sides can get pretty nasty i.e. blurred vision.

Tahoe · 02-26-2007, 08:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigPapaPump68

Nolva will help with the rebound. Some people use clomid also, but IMO the sides can get pretty nasty i.e. blurred vision.

So a good pct would include an additional supp that would help the rebound? Other than Nolva?

Nolva
Proliver (PrimaF)
??? something to help natural test
Fenugreek <--still trying to undestand why peeps add this one. I read it helps disolve fat in the liver???

Thanks again for taking the time to reply.

BigPapaPump68 · 02-27-2007, 10:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tahoe

So a good pct would include an additional supp that would help the rebound? Other than Nolva?

Nolva
Proliver (PrimaF)
??? something to help natural test
Fenugreek <--still trying to undestand why peeps add this one. I read it helps disolve fat in the liver???

Thanks again for taking the time to reply.

Just running nolva is fine. What is the cycle that you are going to be taking?

Tahoe · 02-27-2007, 06:23 PM

Pro Magnon
Primaforce Pro Live, or Himalaya Liver care...or should I do both?

PCT
Nolva 40/40/20/20
Primaforce Pro Liver
DHEA

I was reading where some peeps increase DHEA while decreasing Nolva???

And my buddy a 1ad nut (loved it) says to take 6oxo. He's been out of the loop lately. But have read that Nolva takes care of that?

Could you also give me a little Acronym help? AT and ATDs?

I know thats a lot of questions but any info or time you have to respond is apreciated.

Thanks

BigPapaPump68 · 02-28-2007, 10:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tahoe

Pro Magnon
Primaforce Pro Live, or Himalaya Liver care...or should I do both?

PCT
Nolva 40/40/20/20
Primaforce Pro Liver
DHEA

I was reading where some peeps increase DHEA while decreasing Nolva???

And my buddy a 1ad nut (loved it) says to take 6oxo. He's been out of the loop lately. But have read that Nolva takes care of that?

Could you also give me a little Acronym help? AT and ATDs?

I know thats a lot of questions but any info or time you have to respond is apreciated.

Thanks

You could really run either or. Personally, I would take nolva but that's just me. Acronym? Only Acronym I know has to do with definitions.

Tahoe · 02-28-2007, 12:37 PM

Thanks again and this will be the last question.

DHEA would be included in a good pct right? And that dosage goes up while Nolva goes down?

Acronymns???...I was reading that 6oxo is a AT (???) and Nolva is an ATD ??? At least I thought I read that.

Thanks for all your help.

S_BRUINS · 02-28-2007, 01:00 PM

Just thought I'dd jump in with a few question I have regarding my PCT after doing M1T's, since you guys are talking about Nolva and 6 oxo. I recently finished a two week M1T cycle of 10mg a day. I am finishing up my 2 week PCT on sunday march4/07, then leaving for Cancun on monday. During my PCT I am taking milk thistle, tribulus and 6 oxo.

My questions are: Is 2 weeks of PCT enough time? and is it alright to drink liquor the day after? (in Cancun) should I be taking 6 oxo for longer then 2 weeks after the cycle?

I've researched alot on M1T's before starting them, but I can't seem to get a straight answer to my questions anywhere.

Any reply would be great. thanks

**Prince** · 02-28-2007, 03:31 PM

I thought I gave you straight answers in your other thread?

see you already screwed up with your PCT, if you truly researched this you would have found that Nolva is what should be used.

rule of thumb is time on cycle = length of PCT, so 2 week cycle of M1T = 2 weeks of PCT typically.

you can drink alcohol if you want, it's your risk, but you should not drink it while on PCT. M1T is very hard on your liver, drinking alcohol ads more stress to your liver, that is not good..get it?

**dg806** · 02-28-2007, 08:32 PM

I predict in about 10 years or so that we see alot of 30ish yr old guys with liver problems.

02-25-2007, 12:00 PM	#1
Tahoe Registered User Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Sacramento Posts: 69	Has anyone had any probs taking Nolva Over the last couple of days I've been reading about it and it sounds like a fairly strong therapy??? One statement said something like..." It can be dangerous but if you are gonna die from cancer anyway... So I thought I'd check to see if anyone has ever had any issues with it, or know anyone who has. thanks

02-28-2007, 01:00 PM	#11
S_BRUINS Registered User Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 13	M1t Pct Just thought I'dd jump in with a few question I have regarding my PCT after doing M1T's, since you guys are talking about Nolva and 6 oxo. I recently finished a two week M1T cycle of 10mg a day. I am finishing up my 2 week PCT on sunday march4/07, then leaving for Cancun on monday. During my PCT I am taking milk thistle, tribulus and 6 oxo. My questions are: Is 2 weeks of PCT enough time? and is it alright to drink liquor the day after? (in Cancun) should I be taking 6 oxo for longer then 2 weeks after the cycle? I've researched alot on M1T's before starting them, but I can't seem to get a straight answer to my questions anywhere. Any reply would be great. thanks
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02-26-2007, 04:18 PM	#2
Tahoe Registered User Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Sacramento Posts: 69	Not much luck on that one, so I'll try this one. 6oxo is an inhibitor, right? So Nolva binds to the receptor. So wouldn't one want to pick one of the other. Either block it at the receptor or inhibit it from being created? Or am I way off? thanks

02-26-2007, 06:46 PM	#3
BigPapaPump68 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: USA Posts: 1,309	Myslef nor anyone that I know of has ever had any problems taking nolva. 6oxo works alot like nolva does. Most people use it for their pct. Neither of the two will completely get rid of your estrogen which would not be very smart. IMO, I would always go with Nolva over 6oxo. Some people beg to differ, but it's on your personal likeings.

02-26-2007, 07:01 PM	#4
Tahoe Registered User Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Sacramento Posts: 69	Thank you very much. One more questions if you have time... Wouldn't a good pct have something to kick start the natural test production? Nolva doesn't do that, right? It block estrogen at the receptors, iirc.

02-26-2007, 07:28 PM	#5
BigPapaPump68 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: USA Posts: 1,309	Nolva will help with the rebound. Some people use clomid also, but IMO the sides can get pretty nasty i.e. blurred vision.

02-27-2007, 06:23 PM	#8
Tahoe Registered User Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Sacramento Posts: 69	Pro Magnon Primaforce Pro Live, or Himalaya Liver care...or should I do both? PCT Nolva 40/40/20/20 Primaforce Pro Liver DHEA I was reading where some peeps increase DHEA while decreasing Nolva??? And my buddy a 1ad nut (loved it) says to take 6oxo. He's been out of the loop lately. But have read that Nolva takes care of that? Could you also give me a little Acronym help? AT and ATDs? I know thats a lot of questions but any info or time you have to respond is apreciated. Thanks

02-28-2007, 12:37 PM	#10
Tahoe Registered User Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Sacramento Posts: 69	Thanks again and this will be the last question. DHEA would be included in a good pct right? And that dosage goes up while Nolva goes down? Acronymns???...I was reading that 6oxo is a AT (???) and Nolva is an ATD ??? At least I thought I read that. Thanks for all your help.