Gottork1967

Just like the title says, why is it hated around here?

In a course of 8 months I took equi-bolan, maxteron, and derma-gain, and I did get results.Maybe not the results of top builders, but all the people around me saw them.

SO I am looking for comparable supplements with the same or better effects, and all I have read are personal reasons why its junk. I am having a difficult time perusing the google features and finding actual facts on why it sucks so to speak.

I am not trying to make anyone mad here but I cannot find this info, and like to have a reason on why something is bad.

Can anyone help me find comparable stuff to equi-bolan and maxteron?
When I was on equi-bolan I got hella pumps and very strong in a matter of months. from 185-345 bench in 6-8 months is a dramatic increase in my eyes.
My muscles were rock hard, and I loved working out, I was getting results.
I am starting a new job, and I am going to be working 72 hours a week, so I need the energy to be able to drive past tired to workout on top of this all.

Knowledgeable help appreciated please..

Prince

who is Impact Nutrition?

• SBMuscle.com - Discount Supplement Superstore
• AlltheWhey.com - Bulk Protein Powders
• CEM Products - Research Chemicals & Supplements
• MusclePharm - Complete Nutritional Arsenal
• BigBackGrips - If you lift weights you've got to try these grips!
• HumaneVoLabs - Foaming Transdermal Delivery System.

bigss75

They name all their supplements "steroid like names" . Their chemical compounds they give are phoney and they say they are more effective then actual steroids.

Gottork1967

Impact Nutrition was the people who made equi-bolan, maxteron,killer MRP,derma gain.

here is a link to the products through zupplements.com.

http://www.zupplements.com/store/pro...roducts_id=370

this is what they made Prince.

Thanks Biggs, now if can find something close to it I will be happy..

Prince

oh yeah, I think they may be based here in Colo. as well,

ummm...to answer the original question...they're a joke.

• SBMuscle.com - Discount Supplement Superstore
• AlltheWhey.com - Bulk Protein Powders
• CEM Products - Research Chemicals & Supplements
• MusclePharm - Complete Nutritional Arsenal
• BigBackGrips - If you lift weights you've got to try these grips!
• HumaneVoLabs - Foaming Transdermal Delivery System.

Gottork1967

OK, can you point me towards someone who has supplements similar to them cause I am coming up at dead ends.

dg806

All prohormones are illegal now. Not going to find anything but hard work and a good diet that helps, unless you go to the dark side.

www.sbmuscle.com

Prince

LG Sciences (Legal Gear)

http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/legal/1d.html
http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/legal/liquid.html

• SBMuscle.com - Discount Supplement Superstore
• AlltheWhey.com - Bulk Protein Powders
• CEM Products - Research Chemicals & Supplements
• MusclePharm - Complete Nutritional Arsenal
• BigBackGrips - If you lift weights you've got to try these grips!
• HumaneVoLabs - Foaming Transdermal Delivery System.

NordicNacho

Hey Prince what do you think about AST? they are in Colorado to right?

http://www.roqofthe80s.com/#

Prince

I think they are good at marketing using Jeff Willet and Skip Lacour who are both "all natural" (yeah right) I also think they are good at writing informative, referenced articles that always support their products.

For 9 years I worked in the same corporate center as EAS and AST, used to drive and walk by their buildings every day.

• SBMuscle.com - Discount Supplement Superstore
• AlltheWhey.com - Bulk Protein Powders
• CEM Products - Research Chemicals & Supplements
• MusclePharm - Complete Nutritional Arsenal
• BigBackGrips - If you lift weights you've got to try these grips!
• HumaneVoLabs - Foaming Transdermal Delivery System.

NordicNacho

I like AST some what not a bunch of new stuff coming out everyday. Like the Max-OT system and it cool that put all that work into it. But they just sent me this add typical supp ad its funny though how they nok other companies ads


http://www.ast-ss.com/Products/Produ...asp?ProdID=118












BETA-X – It’s Like Forced Reps in a Bottle!

With all the absurdity in the sports supplement marketplace, it’s an absolute rarity when science overshadows hype. Flip through any fitness magazine and you are bombarded with the most preposterous ads making claims even the strongest steroid couldn’t live up to. Welcome to the wacky and, more times than not, worthless supplement world.

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BETA-X contains a naturally occurring amino acid that is the precursor to a critically important di-peptide called carnosine. Carnosine is a substance formed from beta-alanine that is naturally occurring in muscle tissue – primarily in fast twitch muscle fibers. Carnosine’s primary function in muscle is to buffer hydrogen ions (H+).

What does buffering H+ have to do with anything? It has everything to do with everything. Well, almost. H+ is a byproduct of muscle contraction from the breakdown of ATP (adenosine triphosphate) - the cellular fuel that powers muscles. This training induced increase in H+ is called metabolic acidosis. The more H+ that is generated the more the pH level in your muscles fall (becomes acid). When this happens muscles start to burn and rapid exhaustion occurs stopping muscle contraction ability dead in its tracks. It’s this generation of H+ that forces you to stop a set – it causes muscle failure. And this H+ is generated from the muscle contractions that are required to do the reps in the set.

It’s a Catch-22. Weight training and literally any other physical activity generates the H+ that leads to muscle fatigue, drop in force production and ultimately muscle failure. You have always heard, "Go to failure", well this is what is happening and what causes it.

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The Science . . .

Now you know AST is all about science. (That’s what separates us from the kooky companies that sell you anything to make a buck.) That’s what we are so excited about with BETA-X - the science. BETA-X has some incredibly compelling science backing it up and what’s even more convincing is this science is just as good in the real world as it is in the lab.

Carnosine buffers H+ - those nasty hydrogen ions that make your muscles burn. BETA-X increases carnosine concentration in muscle tissue and primarily in the fast twitch muscle fibers that produce the majority of the muscle size and strength.

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We all have carnosine in our muscles. Like I said previously, it’s there to buffer H+ and keep your muscle pH (the measure of the acidity and the base in terms of activity of hydrogen ions) in check. However, as we have all experienced, lift weights and the production of H+ in your muscles quickly overwhelms the available carnosine and it’s ability to buffer the H+ and this is when muscle failure occurs. It’s simply part of training. But what if you could do 2 or 3 more reps before this muscle failure occurs?

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In this study researchers measured what effects beta-alanine had on athletes that were taking creatine. The study involved 3 groups, a control group (took nothing), a creatine group (5 grams of creatine monohydrate twice a day) and a creatine and beta-alanine group (5 grams of creatine monohydrate twice a day and 3.2 grams of beta-alanine daily).

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How to Take BETA-X . . .

The studies reveal a “tissue saturation phase” may be the best way to take BETA-X to load your muscles with higher carnosine concentrations. Once loaded you maintain these concentrations with a lower dose.

Muscle Tissue Saturation Phase

Week 1 through 4 take 2 BETA-X caplets 3 times per day (every 4 to 6 hours).

Muscle Tissue Support Phase

Week 5 and beyond – take one (1) BETA-X caplet 3 times per day (every 4 to 6 hours).

Beta-alanine is a unique amino acid that imparts some remarkable performance and muscle-building effects. It also can cause a tingling and flushing effect on the skin called paraesthesia that many people find almost unbearable. This is where BETA-X’s time released technology comes in. By formulating BETA-X to be slowly released over 4 to 6 hours the tingling and flushing sensation is eliminated while at the same time supplying a steady delivery of beta-alanine to your muscles.

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Gottork1967

thanks guys...reading up on the stuff now

ABCs

Check out Epistane.

After almost 2 weeks... I am back and better than ever.

goob

Have you started it yet?

ABCs

Yup, 3rd day in. Pumps are crazy and it gives a nice mental well being. Things are only going to get better from here so I wil keep you guys posted.

After almost 2 weeks... I am back and better than ever.