Need help VPX-1test

aadaam · 06-03-2002, 04:12 PM

Lets start with saying hi to everyone (HI). Okay now the question.
I have read gopros comments on the vpx -1 and its sound pretty good. But when I went to my local nutrition place the guy behind the counter tried to sell Sci Fit 1-T. He said that the vpx was junk, Now I dont know the guy at all so he could just be tring to sell his product line.If anyone could give me some sound advice I would greatly appreciate it. My over all goal is to gain more lean muscle while not losing my definition. I have been stuck at 160-165 since high school I am now 28, same weight same build.

**gopro** · 06-03-2002, 07:11 PM

I would go with VPX, S.A.N., or Syntrax...these are the best one's right now.

aadaam · 06-03-2002, 07:44 PM

So basically the other guy was talking shit?

**dg806** · 06-03-2002, 07:50 PM

Well, haven't heard of sci fit......could be something he's pushing!! I would stay with what GP suggested or 1-ad by ergopharm!

BPB · 06-03-2002, 07:53 PM

One reason he may be pushing the SciFit is because there is usually a BIG markup on it. I own a supplement store too and I can tell you that I make a lot more money on SciFit products than I do VPX..

aadaam · 06-03-2002, 08:10 PM

BPB, You make more money because its cheaper or because it is better? What is your opinion on these two product?And if I was going to take them , how should I cycle them?

BPB · 06-03-2002, 10:16 PM

I've tried the Paradeca before and had good results ( before I knew how properly eat and train for lifting). Tried the SciFit Andro-1 and had really good results but haven't had a chance to try the 1-T yet but some of my customer are seeing good things from it so far.
I wouldn't call SciFit cheap. They don't do a lot of advertising so that's one way they can keep their costs down. I use a lot of their products: glutamine, creatine, protein , some vitamins and other herbal stuff

**gopro** · 06-04-2002, 07:40 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by aadaam
So basically the other guy was talking shit?

You got it.

ksiebert · 06-04-2002, 10:29 AM

Ok, now I know nobody here has heard of Trenabol-X, and I was a bit leary about it when I heard everybody at Bodybuilding.com talking about it, but I bought some and am on my third week right now. It is less expensive than any of the pill form products and delivers the 1-T more effectively (throught the skin). I know it sounds strange, but it works awsome.

So far (in 2 weeks) I've

1. Gone from weighing 240-254
2. Gone from benching 315/2-315/5 (easily)
3. My incliine bench has gone from 245/2-305/1!!!!!
4. My squat has gone up quite a bit etc........

I say give it a try, and you'll save some $$$$

aadaam · 06-04-2002, 12:38 PM

BPB, If I used the VPX how long would one bottle last me? The Sci Fit stuff is $64 for one month, 60 capsule. The guy at the nutrition store said I would need 12 weeks, so that would be $180. Money is an issue of course, but I also want to use a excellent product.
Still confused

**gopro** · 06-05-2002, 05:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ksiebert
Ok, now I know nobody here has heard of Trenabol-X, and I was a bit leary about it when I heard everybody at Bodybuilding.com talking about it, but I bought some and am on my third week right now. It is less expensive than any of the pill form products and delivers the 1-T more effectively (throught the skin). I know it sounds strange, but it works awsome.

So far (in 2 weeks) I've

1. Gone from weighing 240-254
2. Gone from benching 315/2-315/5 (easily)
3. My incliine bench has gone from 245/2-305/1!!!!!
4. My squat has gone up quite a bit etc........

I say give it a try, and you'll save some $$$$

14 lbs in two weeks

That would rival any real steroid cycle! Are you sure about this because that would make it a miracle product.

walken1 · 06-05-2002, 09:39 PM

I was on another anabolic board somewhere where everyone was saying that the VPX products suck! I mean none of these guys had anything good to say. Many said that 1-AD was good but they had absolutely no sex drive after a cycle. If you only take 3 pills a day as directed do these side effects occur?......or is this the result of these guys doubling and tripleing the dosage, as many of them do?

aadaam · 06-06-2002, 06:20 AM

That what I mean, You ask three people you three different answers? but Gopro says he has seen results in some of his clients. I think the only real way to find out is to try them ourselves. What do you think Gopro?

**gopro** · 06-06-2002, 07:53 AM

It is very hard to sift your way through all of the bullshit that is said on alot of these message boards. You never know who has a financial interest in selling a product or who has it out for someone, etc, etc.

I am here to clear up the bullshit as best as I can. I have alot of inside info into the industry and usually rely on MY OWN experimentation to figure out what products are real and which are hype! Studies are great, testimonials are fine, but real world results are what count.

As for these products I can tell you what I have learned. The best out there right now, without considering cost, are SAN 1-Test, Syntrax Sauce, VPX 1-Test (and soon Paradrol), Biotest Mag-10, and Ergopharm 1-AD. They have all proven themselves to me and they all contain what is on the label.

While side effects are minimal, we all must remember that all of us react differently to different things. Some products that are perfectly safe for 99% of the people can cause problems for a few rare individuals. This also goes for results...while some gain 15 lbs from 1-Test, others may get nothing.

I try to provide as much usable info as I can based on research, talking to industry experts, and mostly real world results...but the only way you can ever know FOR SURE, is to try it your self.

aadaam · 06-06-2002, 11:53 AM

Thank Gopro, that helps. How long have you been into training? You really seem to know your shit.

aadaam · 06-06-2002, 11:55 AM

Another question, if I was to try the VPX, how should I cycle it and how long should I take it for?

**gopro** · 06-06-2002, 07:12 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by aadaam
Another question, if I was to try the VPX, how should I cycle it and how long should I take it for?

Thanks for your comments. I have been training for about 17 years and have been personal training and coaching athletes for about 10 years.

As for the VPX, I have found that a 6-8 week cycle works best, with a 4 week break in between cycles. The dosage will depend on your bodyweight.

KOnakinsky · 06-07-2002, 11:33 PM

1- test is awesome. I work at Max Muscle and a customer is actually taking it right now. He started in the end of May and has gained about 10 lbs of muscle mass in that time period. You have to understand how 1- test works. It's a lipisomal transport system allowing your body to absorb it faster. It also will by pass the first stage of your liver so you will be able to utilize most of the product instead of wasting most of it. That is the whole VPX line. All I have to say is that that is probably your best bet.

aadaam · 06-08-2002, 07:32 AM

Okay, Now if I use this stuff should I go for power lifting everything to get the best size result, or will I be able to train with sets like 4x8-10, three different exercises? And still do some cardio?

**gopro** · 06-08-2002, 02:22 PM

If you wish to gain muscle, train in the 7-12 rep range most of the time. If your goal is strength, train in the 3-6 range.

06-03-2002, 04:12 PM	#1
aadaam Crash and burn Join Date: May 2002 Location: western mass Posts: 41	Need help VPX-1test Lets start with saying hi to everyone (HI). Okay now the question. I have read gopros comments on the vpx -1 and its sound pretty good. But when I went to my local nutrition place the guy behind the counter tried to sell Sci Fit 1-T. He said that the vpx was junk, Now I dont know the guy at all so he could just be tring to sell his product line.If anyone could give me some sound advice I would greatly appreciate it. My over all goal is to gain more lean muscle while not losing my definition. I have been stuck at 160-165 since high school I am now 28, same weight same build.

06-03-2002, 07:11 PM	#2
gopro NGA/IFPA Pro Bodybuilder Moderator Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Ft. Lauderdale Florida Posts: 10,523	I would go with VPX, S.A.N., or Syntrax...these are the best one's right now.
	Monthly columnist for Muscular Development and Ironman magazines. GOLIATH LABS Sponsored Athlete/Board Rep www.prrstraining.com Time to GROW Without Plateau! Personal Training Gopro is available for online personal training, dietary guidance, and contest prep coaching. Send me a PM or e-mail if interested. Thank you.

06-03-2002, 07:50 PM	#4
dg806 Guardian of The Homeland Super Moderator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Charlotte NC Posts: 17,439	Well, haven't heard of sci fit......could be something he's pushing!! I would stay with what GP suggested or 1-ad by ergopharm!
	www.sbmuscle.com

06-03-2002, 07:53 PM	#5
BPB Must be HUGE!!! Join Date: May 2002 Location: East Coast Posts: 43	One reason he may be pushing the SciFit is because there is usually a BIG markup on it. I own a supplement store too and I can tell you that I make a lot more money on SciFit products than I do VPX..
	Must be HUGE!!...and cut

06-03-2002, 10:16 PM	#7
BPB Must be HUGE!!! Join Date: May 2002 Location: East Coast Posts: 43	I've tried the Paradeca before and had good results ( before I knew how properly eat and train for lifting). Tried the SciFit Andro-1 and had really good results but haven't had a chance to try the 1-T yet but some of my customer are seeing good things from it so far. I wouldn't call SciFit cheap. They don't do a lot of advertising so that's one way they can keep their costs down. I use a lot of their products: glutamine, creatine, protein , some vitamins and other herbal stuff
	Must be HUGE!!...and cut

06-03-2002, 07:44 PM	#3
aadaam Crash and burn Join Date: May 2002 Location: western mass Posts: 41	So basically the other guy was talking shit?

06-03-2002, 08:10 PM	#6
aadaam Crash and burn Join Date: May 2002 Location: western mass Posts: 41	BPB, You make more money because its cheaper or because it is better? What is your opinion on these two product?And if I was going to take them , how should I cycle them?

06-04-2002, 10:29 AM	#9
ksiebert Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Location: Buffalo, NY Posts: 52	Ok, now I know nobody here has heard of Trenabol-X, and I was a bit leary about it when I heard everybody at Bodybuilding.com talking about it, but I bought some and am on my third week right now. It is less expensive than any of the pill form products and delivers the 1-T more effectively (throught the skin). I know it sounds strange, but it works awsome. So far (in 2 weeks) I've 1. Gone from weighing 240-254 2. Gone from benching 315/2-315/5 (easily) 3. My incliine bench has gone from 245/2-305/1!!!!! 4. My squat has gone up quite a bit etc........ I say give it a try, and you'll save some $$$$

06-04-2002, 12:38 PM	#10
aadaam Crash and burn Join Date: May 2002 Location: western mass Posts: 41	BPB, If I used the VPX how long would one bottle last me? The Sci Fit stuff is $64 for one month, 60 capsule. The guy at the nutrition store said I would need 12 weeks, so that would be $180. Money is an issue of course, but I also want to use a excellent product. Still confused

06-05-2002, 09:39 PM	#12
walken1 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North Carolina Posts: 28	I was on another anabolic board somewhere where everyone was saying that the VPX products suck! I mean none of these guys had anything good to say. Many said that 1-AD was good but they had absolutely no sex drive after a cycle. If you only take 3 pills a day as directed do these side effects occur?......or is this the result of these guys doubling and tripleing the dosage, as many of them do?

06-06-2002, 06:20 AM	#13
aadaam Crash and burn Join Date: May 2002 Location: western mass Posts: 41	That what I mean, You ask three people you three different answers? but Gopro says he has seen results in some of his clients. I think the only real way to find out is to try them ourselves. What do you think Gopro?

06-06-2002, 07:53 AM	#14
gopro NGA/IFPA Pro Bodybuilder Moderator Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Ft. Lauderdale Florida Posts: 10,523	It is very hard to sift your way through all of the bullshit that is said on alot of these message boards. You never know who has a financial interest in selling a product or who has it out for someone, etc, etc. I am here to clear up the bullshit as best as I can. I have alot of inside info into the industry and usually rely on MY OWN experimentation to figure out what products are real and which are hype! Studies are great, testimonials are fine, but real world results are what count. As for these products I can tell you what I have learned. The best out there right now, without considering cost, are SAN 1-Test, Syntrax Sauce, VPX 1-Test (and soon Paradrol), Biotest Mag-10, and Ergopharm 1-AD. They have all proven themselves to me and they all contain what is on the label. While side effects are minimal, we all must remember that all of us react differently to different things. Some products that are perfectly safe for 99% of the people can cause problems for a few rare individuals. This also goes for results...while some gain 15 lbs from 1-Test, others may get nothing. I try to provide as much usable info as I can based on research, talking to industry experts, and mostly real world results...but the only way you can ever know FOR SURE, is to try it your self.
	Monthly columnist for Muscular Development and Ironman magazines. GOLIATH LABS Sponsored Athlete/Board Rep www.prrstraining.com Time to GROW Without Plateau! Personal Training Gopro is available for online personal training, dietary guidance, and contest prep coaching. Send me a PM or e-mail if interested. Thank you.

06-06-2002, 11:53 AM	#15
aadaam Crash and burn Join Date: May 2002 Location: western mass Posts: 41	Thank Gopro, that helps. How long have you been into training? You really seem to know your shit.

06-06-2002, 11:55 AM	#16
aadaam Crash and burn Join Date: May 2002 Location: western mass Posts: 41	Another question, if I was to try the VPX, how should I cycle it and how long should I take it for?

06-07-2002, 11:33 PM	#18
KOnakinsky Registered User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Ca Posts: 11	1- test is awesome. I work at Max Muscle and a customer is actually taking it right now. He started in the end of May and has gained about 10 lbs of muscle mass in that time period. You have to understand how 1- test works. It's a lipisomal transport system allowing your body to absorb it faster. It also will by pass the first stage of your liver so you will be able to utilize most of the product instead of wasting most of it. That is the whole VPX line. All I have to say is that that is probably your best bet.
	Natty

06-08-2002, 07:32 AM	#19
aadaam Crash and burn Join Date: May 2002 Location: western mass Posts: 41	Okay, Now if I use this stuff should I go for power lifting everything to get the best size result, or will I be able to train with sets like 4x8-10, three different exercises? And still do some cardio?

06-08-2002, 02:22 PM	#20
gopro NGA/IFPA Pro Bodybuilder Moderator Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Ft. Lauderdale Florida Posts: 10,523	If you wish to gain muscle, train in the 7-12 rep range most of the time. If your goal is strength, train in the 3-6 range.
	Monthly columnist for Muscular Development and Ironman magazines. GOLIATH LABS Sponsored Athlete/Board Rep www.prrstraining.com Time to GROW Without Plateau! Personal Training Gopro is available for online personal training, dietary guidance, and contest prep coaching. Send me a PM or e-mail if interested. Thank you.

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