zombul

Used 5mg again last night but I didn't sleep but about 1hr.Don't know what happened and why it seems to work some nights and not others.

nni

keep the dosage low, and consistent. take it the same time every night, and try to go to bed at the same time every night. thats the optimal way to use it.

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Gordo

I find it works best by using a 1/3 of a 1mg tab for a week. Add to that shot of a 1/4 teaspoon of GABA and it's la la land. Periodically cycle that in times of stress.

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zombul

I took something called sleep aid last night and took 3X the max dosage and it didn't help alot and I stacked 1 5mg Melatonin on it as well.With all that I was still up 3 times between 10:30 P.M./6 AM.

juggernaut2005

Do you have OCD?

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goob

Does anyone wake up very early after taking melatonin?

For instance, with natural sleep I will go to sleep later, but have an uninterupted block of sleep til morning.

With melatonin, I will wake after 4-5 hours of sleep.

Does this happen to anyone else? And why?????

zombul

NO.

zombul

I tried half a 5mg tab but after a couple hours of no sleep I finally took two Tylenol PM and finally fell asleep.I wake up constantly throughout the night everynight.It use to be an annoyance but now it's becoming a problem.I was exhausted yesterday when I went to bed and thought I would sleep fast and good but I was wrong.

goob

I know the feeling. Ok, it's not a very healthy or sensible option, but I know exactly what would work for you. Get yourself some marijuana. Smoke 1 joint only before bed, and take 3mg melatonin. No worries. Out like a light. Guaranteed.

Edit: Also, the more you worry and think about sleeping, the less chance you will sleep. When I work shifts, this fucks me up, even after having about 4-5 hours (total) sleep over 3-4 day periods. I should be out as soon as my head hits the pillow, but some how not. Very frustrating.
Read a decent book in bed, to take your mind away.

nni

i dont think its a coincidence that you had a beter experience at lower doses.

considered zma or valerian?

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Blooming Lotus

Maybe the reason you have more trouble sleeping with too higher doses is because the chemistry secretions it stimulates in your pineal gland ( the little pea thing at the base of your brain stem) produces so much of the sleep hormone that it sends you into overtiredness because it doesn't currently have enough natural functional processes from another system to get communication to your pineal to produce enough of other things that can regulate it's uptake.

The reason for the hormone in the first place is that from over stimulation of other things and systems in your body you no longer produce that chemical to wash through your body and maybe by iit's ph changes the taughtness of certain other cells and organs and things in your body that are chemically strug too tight by washing through to nuetraliseand relax the receptors.

It is a derivitive of an amino acid though ( as all brain fluids are ) so I can imagine that someone missing out on the natural metabolic processes that cause these protective chemicals to course through our bodies, by juicing for example, where it's all prebroken down into those aminos for you instead of byy you, might miss out on that too.

I hear that if you take dietary kelp or eat seaweeds or seaweed products ( that allso have melatonin in them )that it's meant to help increase your natural production by playing with your endocrine system to get the message to produce more to act in sympathetic response to the other stuff you're taking for it or just be able to replace it altogether .
For ppl who eat fat free or have larger amounts of muscle mass % that's probably thee single best way to go.
Oh. and apparently if you were schitzophrenic or suffer rage.. it's meant to be good for that too.
Probably more information than you were reeally after but hope it helps anyway.

Blooming tianshi lotus.

zombul

I didn't take Melatonin last night but took Tylenol PM (more than the recommended dose)and only got up twice last night.I feel a little better this morning and almost rested.