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5mgrams of Melatonin/night. ..Excessive??

So I picked up the 5mg/pill bottle from CVS and take one every night.. I'm readying so much conflicting info on dosage.. some are saying 1grm some 3grams.. My question is?? How much Melatonin do YOU take/night?

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5mg.

Although I take it to experiment with dreams.
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So I picked up the 5mg/pill bottle from CVS and take one every night.. I'm readying so much conflicting info on dosage.. some are saying 1grm some 3grams.. My question is?? How much Melatonin do YOU take/night?

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I usually take 6 or 9 gms. I have had the 5grm pills and taken 2 (for 10 gr). I do not take it very often - like once a week or so.



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Suggested: to boost muscle growth and mood, take 3-5mg of melatonin 30-60minutes before workout and before bed. hope that helps your Q.
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thank you very much guys!!!!!



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I've never taken more than 3mg, kicks my ass every time.



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you guys are all overdosing, significantly. for sleep the effective dose of melatonin is in the MCG range, meaning much less than 1mg. if anything break the 3mg pill in half. melatonin is not a more is better type supp, if you take melatonin regularly you will build a tolerance, all overdosing dose is make you build a tolerance quicker, or worse affect your bodies own production of mrlatonin.



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you guys are all overdosing, significantly. for sleep the effective dose of melatonin is in the MCG range, meaning much less than 1mg. if anything break the 3mg pill in half. melatonin is not a more is better type supp, if you take melatonin regularly you will build a tolerance, all overdosing dose is make you build a tolerance quicker, or worse affect your bodies own production of mrlatonin.
I wil try lower doses and see if I get the same effect.



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you guys are all overdosing, significantly. for sleep the effective dose of melatonin is in the MCG range, meaning much less than 1mg. if anything break the 3mg pill in half. melatonin is not a more is better type supp, if you take melatonin regularly you will build a tolerance, all overdosing dose is make you build a tolerance quicker, or worse affect your bodies own production of mrlatonin.
I have 3mg caps (I rarely take it anymore). I know that you do build a tolerance to it after awhile. Do you think that you are absorbing all 3mg in those caps anyway?



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i honestly don't know, but i read some information from the scientist who discovered supplemental melatonin for sleep, and that is what he said [my post].



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I just find it hard to believe that if the label says 3mg we are getting all 3mg grams.



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you guys are all overdosing, significantly. for sleep the effective dose of melatonin is in the MCG range, meaning much less than 1mg. if anything break the 3mg pill in half. melatonin is not a more is better type supp, if you take melatonin regularly you will build a tolerance, all overdosing dose is make you build a tolerance quicker, or worse affect your bodies own production of mrlatonin.
what do I do with the two 5mg/tablet bottles I have? it'll be tough to break them into 5 pieces



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Suggested: to boost muscle growth and mood, take 3-5mg of melatonin 30-60minutes before workout and before bed. hope that helps your Q.
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Trouble, who was once a mod here, suggested 3-5 mgs of melatonin. She said if I take it at an appropriate time (9-10 pm) then it can actually help the body in its own natural production.

I did that for several months, and now I rarely take it and sleep alot better than I used to.

Melatonin shouldn't be a replacement for poor sleeping habits. Use it as it should be used.



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Trouble was taking far more than 3mg too, she told me so herself when she laughed at my wussy doseage.



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I might be in trouble. I have to take 1 almost every night. Tongiht I took half of a 5mg pill. I only do it, cuz I cant stand fucking getting tired at 2am.


It doesnt even matter what time I wake up. Ruh Roh.

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I bite the 5mg pills in half and they still work wonders.
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I have tried it on several occasions and seem to get nothing from it.I hoped it would help me sleep but it did no such thing.
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You can mix it with Valerian Root.



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I'll mix it with Tylenol PM
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You should start with ONE MG of melatonin. Less is often more with melatonin. Too much and you will have more problems sleeping than not.

Typically 1-3 mg was very effective for me despite bad insomnia



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I actually used this again last night at 10mg and it may have been beneficial but it is really hard to tell.I will try it at a low dosage to see if I any benefit from it.I felt more refreshed this morning but it's hard to attribute that to this based on one night.
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it isnt a sleeping pill per se, it will simply help you sleep deeper and develop a normal sleeping pattern. 10mg is waay too much.



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it isnt a sleeping pill per se, it will simply help you sleep deeper and develop a normal sleeping pattern. 10mg is waay too much.
I am going to cut it down tonight.I will break 1 5mg pill in half and try it.I have little experience with this and am always skeptical and make a supp PROVE it's value to me.So we'll see in time.THANKS....
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I am going to cut it down tonight.I will break 1 5mg pill in half and try it.I have little experience with this and am always skeptical and make a supp PROVE it's value to me.So we'll see in time.THANKS....
Yeah, I just take a small bite out of the 5mg tabs and save the rest for another day. Lay in bed and do whatever you do before you fall asleep. I usually just go online on my laptop or whatever and just plain relax. In less than an hour you should be asleep. Definitely only use it when you need it. It seems Melatonin is very easy to build a tolerance to.
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Yeah, I just take a small bite out of the 5mg tabs and save the rest for another day. Lay in bed and do whatever you do before you fall asleep. I usually just go online on my laptop or whatever and just plain relax. In less than an hour you should be asleep. Definitely only use it when you need it. It seems Melatonin is very easy to build a tolerance to.
ur right my friend
the first day, i took 1mg, i was like bang knocked out,(i take it prob 2-3 times a week) , after i took liek 1.5 mg and 2 mg and it barely did shit. and i take chewables also mint flavored. has dextrose in it i think.
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I dropped the dose to 1,5mg tab on Saturday and then on Sunday night and I did sleep better than usual so I am rethinking my out look on this stuff and I am happy with it this time around.
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Ive been taking it periodically for some time now. Ive noticed it doesnt make me tired as fast anymore, but it does prepare me for sleep. For instance, i take it around 10pm (thats when I usually get home from work) and dose off around 12am. I could sleep sooner, but getting home that late stalls other things everyone does when they get home from work.

If I take the pill any later then Ill fall asleep later. If I dont take it at all, I may go to sleep just after 2am. If I take it right before I leave work, thats an option, but it still makes me t