Thread: Glutamine (P take a look at this as well)

No truth to that what so ever.

Glutamine has its place in very high does but to keep yourself out of muscle wasting is a big fat lie.

I disagree I guess. Thats exactly why I like to do my Hiit and hit heavy cardio and plyo etc of a morning.. because i have my metabolism in prime shape to make the most of a burn on it .
I don't doo a glutamine though but a pre- work out protein shake ... much to much ness here or there.. I also do a sweet clear taurine and guarana and juice and soadwater and sweet ( yaay for nesquick and gylco boost!!)no fat milk throuugh the 3 or 4 hr workout..maybe even stop for a fruit stick or watermelon break.. and that's ' usually ' every single day...
i don't recommend running your sugars low, even if you just have to load before and during and up to an hr or so after with more simple sources,but I doo get where you're coming from.
If someone ellse had never done it and succeeded, I can imagine why they wouldn't.

that is the most retarded thing I have heard all year......that takes the cake.

my head just exploded.

my stance on morning cardio on an empty stomach still stands. you can read that all over this forum on in my blog.

as stated, glutamine has been shown to be effective for some things in high dosages....especially things like leaky guy or preventing upper respiratory tract infections in long distance athletes (marathoners and triathletes) who are training excessively (due to the nature of their sport).

The muscle wasting properties of glutamine are great if you are getting via an IV drip and lying confined to a bed, have gone through severe burns or have some sort of wasting disease (AIDS).

the idea that there is a fat burning zone is friggin' stupid too. You can't be certain what you are burning and regardless, at higher intensities even though the percentage of fat you are burning is lower, the total caloric expenditure will trump that.

not all of us are as big you are P or eat as much!..

.. just because someone doesnt eat actuuual food it doesn't mean thaqt person cant nourish a workout!.. christ. thaat iis what sports supplements are for .

I heard post workout glutamine is pretty ineffectual twd loosing density and condition .... pre workout with a whole other combo i might try on though..

I don't want to go into it too much if you're all so one minded on eat big lift big bee big and that's all there is to life, but I think prior cardio in a good combo it might be different. Of course it would really depend on when you did it and what with.

I don't appreciate being told my thoughts are retarded. i'm smarter than some around here anyway.. and more liberal. be nice.

p.s. the idea is too pump on simples into a specfic metabolic rate .. get a longevity out of it by running it on low idle and feed after wards to kick it up to make your burn last longer as you add joules .. like a lawn mower... I can see you guys are nott big on big cardio or endurance. what do you want me to say?. do what you like.

oh .. and if a fat burning zone was a stupid idea then why tf do you eat or do what youu do for x amount of time after lifting??.. why do you try to hit a long burn when you're cutting? Why do we have to work so hard and muster and portion and timing so disciplinedly to acheive it? duh uh P funk.

Originally Posted by Blooming Lotus

not all of us are as big you are P or eat as much!..

.. just because someone doesnt eat actuuual food it doesn't mean thaqt person cant nourish a workout!.. christ. thaat iis what sports supplements are for .

I heard post workout glutamine is pretty ineffectual twd loosing density and condition .... pre workout with a whole other combo i might try on though..

I don't want to go into it too much if you're all so one minded on eat big lift big bee big and that's all there is to life, but I think prior cardio in a good combo it might be different. Of course it would really depend on when you did it and what with.

I don't appreciate being told my thoughts are retarded. i'm smarter than some around here anyway.. and more liberal. be nice.

a) That was directed at the original post.

b) What the fuck does eating big or being big have to do with anything? I am not in anway big.

.. just because someone doesnt eat actuuual food it doesn't mean thaqt person cant nourish a workout!.. christ. thaat iis what sports supplements are for .

I don't even know what the hell you mean by that? How can someone not nourish a workout? If you don't EAT actual food where do you get energy to expend during your workout? Your statement makes no sense.

I don't want to go into it too much if you're all so one minded on eat big lift big bee big and that's all there is to life, but I think prior cardio in a good combo it might be different. Of course it would really depend on when you did it and what with.

I am not one minded. I am just giving you true information. Eat big lift big be big??? That is not me at all. Clearly you have no idea what you are talking about. Stop making ASSumptions. Also, what does "prior cardio in a good combo might be different mean?" Your sentece makes no sense.

p.s. the idea is too pump on simples into a specfic metabilc rate .. get a longevity out of it and feed after wards to kick it up to make your burn last longer. I can see you guys are nott big on big cardio or endurance. what do you want me to say?. do what you like.

oh .. and if a fat burning zone was a stupid idea then why tf do you eat or do what youu do for x amount of time after lifting??.. why do you try to hit a long burn when you're cutting? Why do we have to work so hard and muster and portion and timing so disciplinedly to acheive it? duh uh P funk.

a) your first paragraph again makes no sense.

b) the fat burning zone has nothing to do with doing something for a long time. It has to do with a specific intensity in relation max heart rate where there is a greater percentage of fat being used for fuel as opposed to carbohydrate. Do you know what you are talking about....at all?

C) if you know anything about how I train, I am very big on conditioning work and I do a good amount of cardio....again, you have no clue what you are talking about.

i mean taking glutamin in certain combinations of other foods orr drinks or supplements before one might undertake a cardio workout could likely prove diffrent results than to have it afterward.

Of course you can nourish on supplements alone. that's why they get sold as mealreplacents. you can powder just about anything up these days.

not that there's anything wrong with it but You arre big compared to alot of non - b.b.s or ppl who have big focus on lifting. youu don't be ASSuming I don't know the difference. I'm not arguning anyway. just trying to give a sympathetic empathetic view.

whatever .

Originally Posted by Blooming Lotus

i mean taking glutamin in certain combinations of other foods orr drinks or supplements before one might undertake a cardio workout could likely prove diffrent results than to have it afterward.

Of course you can nourish on supplements alone. that's why they get sold as mealreplacents. you can powder just about anything up these days.

not that there's anything wrong with it but You arre big compared to alot of non - b.b.s or ppl who have big focus on lifting. youu don't be ASSuming I don't know the difference. I'm not arguning anyway. just trying to give a sympathetic empathetic view.

whatever .

Glutamine IS NOT a mealreplacement....so no....you are wrong.

taking glutamine with other foods in not the question here.....the question is about taking only glutamine and then doing cardio. Not combining it in a meal. I couldn't care less if someone wanted to do that.


Are you from another country?

I didn't saay glutamine was a meal replacement. No one said they wanted to take it all alone neither.
no I don't live near you. . and yes I am slightly more competant in english language than some. Yes my typing is pretty shit sometimes . . so what if i stick up for underdog theories and get trashed for it.
least I find something to meean about it. you guys are jerks like that I guess.
now you know why I do it.

Originally Posted by Blooming Lotus

I didn't saay glutamine was a meal replacement. No one said they wanted to take it all alone neither.
no I don't live near you. . and yes I am slightly more competant in englisg language than some. Yes my typing is pretty shit sometimes . . so what if i stick up for underdog theories and get trashed for it.
least I find something to meean about it. you guys are jerks like that I guess.
now you know why I do it.

holy fucking shit.....read the FIRST FUCKING POST IN THE DAMN THREAD!!!!! He said.....cardio on an EMPTY STOMACH.....THIS MEANS NOT FUCKING FOOD.....and take some glutamine before hand....THIS MEANS NO FOOD ONLY GLUTAMINE....jeez.

Stick up for underdog theories? What the hell are you talking about? This shit has all been researched. Trying reading some published journals or an exercise physiology textbook......I have not time to argue with you...it is clear that you don't understand this stuff at all.

no food but on certain combinations of other things .. like drinks and shakes .. not food.. it's workable.

You can doo a protein shake and hr or so before a workout and with a decent metabolism still be 'empty ' but fuelled by the time you get there.. so all you ennd up running on is the energy from your protein and anything you drink during it.. . I know this because I cant fucking eaat complex carbs over several grams a day without fucking dying of a fucked liver so I rely on that very fucking thiing P -funk. .. only I use wine to hellp catabolise the protein because i cant wait 6-8-10 hrs for the freaking energy from it otherwise.
I'm glad you don't have time to argue.
Me neither I guess.
You weren't very good at chemistry were you.

This message is hidden because Blooming Lotus is on your ignore list and incredibly fucking stupid.

Originally Posted by Blooming Lotus

not all of us are as big you are P or eat as much!..

.. just because someone doesnt eat actuuual food it doesn't mean thaqt person cant nourish a workout!.. christ. thaat iis what sports supplements are for .

I heard post workout glutamine is pretty ineffectual twd loosing density and condition .... pre workout with a whole other combo i might try on though..

I don't want to go into it too much if you're all so one minded on eat big lift big bee big and that's all there is to life, but I think prior cardio in a good combo it might be different. Of course it would really depend on when you did it and what with.

I don't appreciate being told my thoughts are retarded. i'm smarter than some around here anyway.. and more liberal. be nice.

p.s. the idea is too pump on simples into a specfic metabolic rate .. get a longevity out of it by running it on low idle and feed after wards to kick it up to make your burn last longer as you add joules .. like a lawn mower... I can see you guys are nott big on big cardio or endurance. what do you want me to say?. do what you like.

oh .. and if a fat burning zone was a stupid idea then why tf do you eat or do what youu do for x amount of time after lifting??.. why do you try to hit a long burn when you're cutting? Why do we have to work so hard and muster and portion and timing so disciplinedly to acheive it? duh uh P funk.

Entrez PubMed

PWO glutamine is a waste of time too.

The only thing I think it's helpful is high doses for GI issues and for burn victims. Glutamine as a BB supplement is worthless.

I am nott stupid P-funk. I have higher scores and I.Q. than most people most places..aand I trained at world class levels.. just not in b.b.
I knew you 'd turn out to be like that! what's new@).



really forget it. i shouldn't bother. Hallooo to steriodville! Orson ?

That was the dumbest fight I've ever seen. BL, you remind me of AJ from Sopranos. Gay.

nooo. i'm fml...and hetro.. and I used to be a hot stripper in one Australias most elite international mans clubs.. now I'm just a single mother and mean..ing to get on with other things.
i dont even waatch the Sopranos! duh@):/.

I live in Aus. where abouts you strip?

Oh, so you're a milf? My apologies.. you suck, patrick.

Originally Posted by soxmuscle

Oh, so you're a milf? My apologies.. you suck, patrick.

MY GOODNESS you all need to calm down. This could be a great discussion about the effects of glutamine if you all would please stop fighting.

I use glutamine with my food, during all my afternoon-ervening meals because I've studied to find that it's been useful in recovering lost amino acids from working out. It most likely wouldn't help most but as many of you know I train for marathons and do over 100-180 minutes of cardio at a time. Cell proliferation is a very big concern to someone who does a lot of extended cardio as well as those who are constantly training high intensity on a regular basis.

Someone who does extended cardio twice a week and HIIT once a week isn't really going to see the added benefits of supplementing glutamine unless maybe they have plateaued weight loss from cardio and can't find the missing link in their diet.

Glutamine supplementation could be useful in a body building diet after intense workouts but really when you step back and look, most protein supplements have all the necessary amino acids you'll need anyway. A big reason I like to use Glutamine is the GI benefits because there are days I don't use a lot of solid foods (just protein shakes, carb gels, etc).

Most of what I'm talking about is covered Here. There are references at the bottom of the page.

Originally Posted by P-funk

the idea that there is a fat burning zone is friggin' stupid too. You can't be certain what you are burning and regardless, at higher intensities even though the percentage of fat you are burning is lower, the total caloric expenditure will trump that.

Exactly, theres a pretty good size section in the NASM book that tells about that being bogus. I have read your stance on cardio in the morning on an empty stomach on several occasions and like always I agree.

Alright now that I got to read all of that I think Jodi's comment of Glutamine being worthless got lost in it all. I agree Jodi. I seen a study whenever I first came here that backed up that statement.

The best thing about this guys argument was he was on a bulking diet and he was suppose to do that to keep the body fat down! I told him ok you are on a bulking diet and your body is suffering from catabolism and the first thing you do isnt eat? You go and run on an empty stomach? Thats ridiculous. Why wouldnt you eat? If your main goal is size then eat!

Originally Posted by Plateau_Max

Glutamine supplementation could be useful in a body building diet after intense workouts but really when you step back and look, most protein supplements have all the necessary amino acids you'll need anyway. A big reason I like to use Glutamine is the GI benefits because there are days I don't use a lot of solid foods (just protein shakes, carb gels, etc).

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That's exactly what I'm getting at. .. and why I 'm thinking that with a few other additions ( like creatine and a taurine and crap), that it's probably going to be something I can make work for me.

For ppl that juice though,.. because of it's contribution to kicking up metabolic processes that are up for vulnerabilty from the moment they start lifting and taxing and placing demand on those systems, i really think it would help theeir overall long term health and condition out aswell so that ppl don't haave those systems pack up on them. Not planning ahead is not doing yourself any favours. .. hey Jodi.
It's a shame I can't be more convincing atm. Really.

and no I'm nota mylf !.. I think there's something about "mutuality" in that comment that we maay've missed!@):P.

Are you at least a Malspwf? "mother at least some people would fuck"

I had myself a milf the other day, it was great. Anyhow... as I said before, there are so many ways to aid in recovery from working out that glutamine really isn't going to be helpful unless you're totally destroying yourself like I often do.

Glutamine has been shown to aid in the recovery process from individuals who've had surgery... but have you seen the food they serve in most hospitals? The vegitibles are boiled to nothing, and so is the meat most of th e time... the fruit is bland and old, i'd be surprised if people who stay more than a couple weeks in the hospital wouldn't be malnourished to some degree. Of course glutamine is going to help them.

Originally Posted by Plateau_Max

Are you at least a Malspwf? "mother at least some people would fuck"

I had myself a milf the other day, it was great.

One of the hottest girls I ever hooked up with was a milf. They are great.

Hi Mista...