djturnz

I am 27, 6'3", 362lbs.

I have changed my diet, and I am exercising more.

I am down 22lbs in 9 weeks.

I bought some Ephedrine Tabs a while back after they took ephedra out of everything.

I used Trimspa with Ephedra for a while and it worked well with no heart problems or any side effects. I also used phedteramine for a while until it got expensive.

So knowing that the Trimspa with Ephedra worked, is it safe to assume that an ECA stack would as well?

I found the ratio of 24mg Eph, 200mg Caff, 300mg Asp. and that was 3 times a day. Is this correct?

I read that the asprin is only recommended if you are obese. I think I fall into that catagory with no problem.

So what do you guys think?

nni

25 e 200c is the norm. i ignore tha aspirin so cant help you there, but where do you plan on getting ephedra from considering it is illegal? ephedrin HCL?

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djturnz

I already have 2 boxes of EPHEDRINE asthma stuff at home. By the time I use it, I'll find more. Can't you still get primatine tabs or vasopro at the store?

djturnz

I have Vasopro 25mg. 48 tablets was around $8.

They have another ingredient. I didn't write it down but it begins with a G and is an expectorant. Will this cause me any adverse effects?

Should I go with 325mg of asprin or 81mg? I have seen both mentioned. I am at least 120lbs over weight.

freEQnasty

Guafenisen - it is the ingredient in mucinex. Just opens up airways and gets rid of mucus. If anythin will help you breath while takin the Ephedrine. Most don't use the aspirin with the stack, just caffeine ephedrine.

djturnz

What I read was if you are obese, use the aspirin. I qualify, and then some.

Is there a reason NOT to use asprin?

The original reason I bought the Vasopro was to take it along with the Ephedra free Hydroxycut since the Ephedra formula weight loss supplements worked for me with no side effects.

Should I forgetthe caffeine, and just take ephedra with Hydroxycut, or another OTC weighloss formula?

freEQnasty

I guess you might wanna use the aspirin then if you've read that somewhere. Might have somethin to do with thinning blood which has some benefit. Just thinking dont know for sure. The hydroxycut should have caffeine in it already i believe.

AKIRA

Hmph. I was just going to ask...

Why is Asprin included? What function does it serve?

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crazy_enough

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AKIRA

None? Cmon.....! Is it cuz it "thins the blood?"

6' 209lbs (8/16)
Bench 360 (11/29)
Weighted Pullups 80lbs 3x3 (3/19)
Squat 370
Deadlift after herniation 385lbs 3x3 (3/17)
NASM certified 2/06
Journal

KentDog

To thin the blood; it's supposed to make the EC dosage more potent.

cheesegrater

i always thought ECA should only be used to get cut, not to lose weight from an obese stage? ECA makes your heart work harder, and at your weight it's already working damn hard. Sounds like you're trying to hit a 5 run home run with your weight loss. Adjust your diet and try to stick to around 2-5lbs (considering your weight) per week loss. Slow diets work best. Even at my body weight, about 190 cut, after taking ephedrine, the fat deposits come back pretty quickly after i cycle off it, so using it as a diet method probably isn't a good idea.

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22inchpump

Go read up on t3 /t4 and clenbuterol. You can buy t3 research chemicals. T3 is fairly hardcore but works amazingly, just be carefull, do allot of reading up on it before you use it .

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IainDaniel

Yeah that makes alot of sense lets reccommend that he add synthetic hormones to his body.

And you rip on people for keeping track of the workouts and having MMA stickers. You should check yourself into a retard clinic.

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Blooming Lotus

I'm a little concerned about eca at my weight myself. i'm about to buy a few new supplements to rip with as i pick up my programme, but the concern with it iis about your heart...and what that does to your body temperature and what happenes after that. I'm pretty light already ( fml - 32 - 44-5-6 kgs) so I think the asprin would probably screw me personally quite squarely ..

the reason it 's used and probably recomended to only obese ppl, is because it speeds up your heart rate and it raises your body temperature through the extra internal activity ...greeat for someone who doesnt mind chemicals and has a reeally low activity level and metabolism and alot of body to pump through..

With the other two ingredients already speeding up the rate heart pumps though unless you have more tissue to pump through, it gets really dangerous.. as in your heart may want to pump so fast it cant keep up with itself and can send you into cardiac shock .. particularly when youre working out and needing more oxygen and more potassium and calming gylcogen and fluids in general to keep it all from shivelling up anyway and dehydration or lack of proper nurishing dieatary recovery fuels threatens to send your nuerology ( brain function) dry to frizzel ( brain shut down from actual overtraining condition from training in consistent dehydrated states btw).. With some good fluid management it's probably half a good shot to think you could do it healthily at a lighter weight but honestly I'm really not personally prepared to risk it because I went down bigg time over christmas from working too hard physically without enough bio-thermal regulation ( potasium / fluid and nourishment intake often enough to take the neurolical and cardiac load off )as it is and this period coming up is stiill my recovery from that...

If you're at alll concerned, just don't it. alot of that sort of stuff is dangerous. If you 're not confident you pull off your health using it, then just don't. There're loads of other supplements that'll get you there anyway. .. check out iron labs and read the product info. Only my two cents worth here, but screwing yourself out of your health is just not often so worth what it takes to get it back.. if you can at all.


Depending on what you're doing for your workouts, i can't really see how you'll have any trouble, but if you do, a light dose to begin would propbably help you tailor something specific to yourself.

Good luck with your decision.

Blooming tianshi lotus

Blooming Lotus

p.s. Because I was tired earlier and probably on the slightly less clinical side of what I told you, I did a quick google and found these which should clarify anything you wanted to know about it..

ECA stack - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

potential negative effects of an ECA stack - Google Search


Dietary Supplements



highly recommend the read. I don't know what others here might tell you, but in lieu of the ECA I decided I'm going with a creatine / a 10 day program per bottle liquid herbal "slim and detox " formular which contains things to assist elimination and things like pepper and caffiene and so forth which'll do bio-thermy plus as a bonus because of the ph of some of the stuff in it will interact with creatine boost from yams and chicken and meat jellies in place of EE ( Ethyl Ester) and I'm also buying a thermogen protein shake to interchange with my current WPI and have a guaranna energy tab vile ( also containing caffiene and pepp).. with lemon juice shots and green tea, I thinnk that's pretty much going to do me for the minute, but there are definately alott of other products you can mix and match to take the danger down a notch and still end up with basically the same effect and results. Do have a read at ironmag if you want to see examples of that and again good luck with whatever you come up with.

Cheers.

Blooming tianshi lotus.