Adderall

soxmuscle · 06-12-2007, 10:17 AM

I'd like to start by saying I'm not prescribed adderall. With that being said I used it on occasion during the school year, mostly to study for tests or if I had a big paper to write or something of the sort.

I always felt like on days that I had taken adderall my workouts were better, much better. It makes sense, afterall athletes in sports have been using amphetamines for years.

Last night, having gone to the Fall Out Boy concert, getting pulled over on the drive home, and watching the Sopranos on Sunday night and not heading to bed until around 5 AM Monday morning (9-5 work day, alarm went off at 8:30) I decided to crush up some adderall and snort a line of it, mainly because it's time released and I didn't want to be up all night for a second consecutive night.

My workout last night, which I had been dreading all day, was incredible. I ended up hitting a PR of 405 deadlifting, my first time with four plates on each side.

I'm obviously not going to make a habit out of this, I'm just wondering how horrible it is for me to do on select days where I get zero sleep in a night and wouldn't otherwise be able to workout.

MeatZatk · 06-12-2007, 11:05 AM

snorting a line of adderall? You've gone to a new level my friend.

soxmuscle · 06-12-2007, 11:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MeatZatk

snorting a line of adderall? You've gone to a new level my friend.

I don't think thats going to a new level. Adderall is time released, I didn't want it to be released from when I took at 8 PM until 8 the following morning.

Just answer the question if you're going to stop by in my thread, bud.

MeatZatk · 06-12-2007, 11:33 AM

okay, chief

**IainDaniel** · 06-12-2007, 11:38 AM

Nope, I agree with Meatzak.

MeatZatk · 06-12-2007, 11:55 AM

found this on google:
Dangerous side effects from inhaling Ritalin and Adderall include:

respiratory problems, such as destruction of the nasal and sinus cavities and lung tissue
irregular heartbeat (heart arrhythmia)
problems with circulation
psychotic episodes
increased aggression
toxic shock
death, in extreme cases
As Adderall is similar in its chemical makeup to methamphetamine, it poses additional dangers. Extended, continuous abuse can result in developmental problems concerning the brain and negative changes in brain wave activity. If someone misuses/abuses Ritalin, Adderall, or both, help is necessary to stop using, not only to prevent further harm, but also to keep the person safe during withdrawal. Once one has become addicted to these substances, stopping could cause withdrawal symptoms similar to those with cocaine, such as:

severe depression
psychosis
restlessness
extreme feelings of agitation
You may think that you are safer and more frugal by snorting Ritalin and Adderall, rather than cocaine, but you are harming yourself in similar ways.

MeatZatk · 06-12-2007, 11:56 AM

ignore the cocaine part...as I don't think that you're trying to get a cheap thrill or anything. They are just stating that snorting adderall can be just as dangerous as cocaine.

soxmuscle · 06-12-2007, 11:58 AM

Perfect, thanks man.

I didn't mean to sound defensive, I simply knew what I was doing when I was doing it. It's not like I'm snorting coke or injecting heroin for the fix, I snorted a miniscule amount of adderall so that I could have a respectable workout (I was literally beat to shit) which actually turned out to be a real good one.

I just don't think it's another level in the least.

MeatZatk · 06-12-2007, 12:04 PM

I understand what you're saying, but according to more than one article I'm seeing around the net, it is like snorting coke. It may not seem like it because adderall is a prescription drug, but snorting it isn't its intended use. I just don't want to hear how all of a sudden you're only having great workouts after using this stuff.

soxmuscle · 06-12-2007, 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by MeatZatk

I understand what you're saying, but according to more than one article I'm seeing around the net, it is like snorting coke. It may not seem like it because adderall is a prescription drug, but snorting it isn't its intended use. I just don't want to hear how all of a sudden you're only having great workouts after using this stuff.

I don't have ADD, I'm not prescribed it. I purchased a couple from a buddy at school on my dorm room floor for finals and had one left over. Now that it's gone, I'm not going to be purchasing it again until I need one to write a paper or have a big test in the fall.

I think I'm smart enough, although the concern is definitely appreciated.

I can certainly see, after last night alone, how the Jason Giambi's and Barry Bond's of the world used it regularly. They play baseball, I lift weights. If they're hitting home runs doing it, just like I hit a PR last night, I can completely see how they wouldn't want to stop. Especially when their salary is on the line...

fufu · 06-12-2007, 01:55 PM

I think you would be fine if you did it in moderation. But you might end up liking it so much you'll become "dependent", just becareful. I try to stay away from as much supps as possible because after a while you just want to use them habitually and that costs $$$$. In the long run I don't see a need to do it.

soxmuscle · 06-12-2007, 02:25 PM

I think I'm smart enough to keep it under control, but keep those A&E tapes running, somebody might need to intervene.

bones33 · 06-12-2007, 07:35 PM

Yea boss, i wouldn't compare adderall to coke.. more like diet-coke... i've actually used it before for lifting when i was out of no-xplode haha... kept me up all night though... It did work though.

MeatZatk · 06-12-2007, 07:48 PM

I'm not comparing it to coke. From the information I've read, my understanding is that snorting adderall can have the same side effects/dangers as doing coke because inhaling isn't the intended way to take it.

soxmuscle · 06-12-2007, 08:14 PM

I understood what you meant, Meat. I did however figure from your first post that you imagined me itching my neck and craving adderall like Tyrone Biggums.

BoneCrusher · 06-12-2007, 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by soxmuscle

I understood what you meant, Meat. I did however figure from your first post that you imagined me itching my neck and craving adderall like Tyrone Biggums.

The junkies I've known all KNEW they could handle the drug of their demise.

MeatZatk · 06-12-2007, 10:25 PM

yeah, my last post was more a response to Bones saying that adderall is like diet coke.

Mista · 06-12-2007, 11:05 PM

You could just chew it. Or snort some water to flush your nose out afterwards.

soxmuscle · 06-12-2007, 11:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BoneCrusher

The junkies I've known all KNEW they could handle the drug of their demise.

I believe it. Just not the same situation.

BoneCrusher · 06-12-2007, 11:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by soxmuscle

I believe it. Just not the same situation.

How so? I see more similarities than differences.

soxmuscle · 06-13-2007, 07:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BoneCrusher

How so? I see more similarities than differences.

What similarities do you see?

BoneCrusher · 06-13-2007, 09:37 AM

Justifying the abuse. Dude if you're up that long and need rest? Sleep, don't relly on crushing adderall and snorting it as your go-to plan so you can get that scheduled workout in.

Snorting it. WTF?!?!? Snorting adderall? <---- = Major flag. I wonder if you're aware that people also shoot adderall and ritalin?

Seeing yourself as someone who can "handle" it. Every addict I've ever met was completely sure he/she could handle it, until it handled them. <---- = very vulnerable to the dangers adderall presents. The stronger your personality is the deeper in you'll get before you realize you're in trouble.

Not even acknowledging the possibility of danger. <---- Normally = denial.

I use stuff to increase my ability to get the job done too. A jam packed protein shake and on a rare occasion even an ECA stack to get through that 18th hour. There's limits though. Pass those limits and you hit the twilight zone.

I'll step off my soap-box and stop pounding away in your thread about the dangers of addiction. soxmuscle I mean you no disrespect.

soxmuscle · 06-13-2007, 10:07 AM

Believe me, I'm not taking it as disrespectful.

And you're right, this twilight zone you speak of is the result of an addiction, but it's not an addiction to adderall, it's an addiction to working out.

That's why I keep dismissing it as a problem with the drugs, if anything it's my psychological mentality that if I don't get into the gym, my fucking dick will fall off, which is a completely different situation in my opinion.

If you want to talk to me about being addicted, talk to me about what I'm addicted to, which is this bigorexic mentality that constantly runs throughout my brain.

BoneCrusher · 06-13-2007, 10:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by soxmuscle

Believe me, I'm not taking it as disrespectful.

And you're right, this twilight zone you speak of is the result of an addiction, but it's not an addiction to adderall, it's an addiction to working out.

That's why I keep dismissing it as a problem with the drugs, if anything it's my psychological mentality that if I don't get into the gym, my fucking dick will fall off, which is a completely different situation in my opinion.

If you want to talk to me about being addicted, talk to me about what I'm addicted to, which is this bigorexic mentality that constantly runs throughout my brain.

Brother we all live there.

Example: Up at 4 or 5:am for morning meal and a good bit of road work ... done by 8:am. Mid morning snack and off to the gym 3 or 4 days days a week. Done lifting by noon but might get dogged into a racquetball session by the bros "You old guys just can't keep up" or something like it always gets me into my court shoes. If by 3pm if I haven't worked out yet I start to feel a deep level of anxiety like I'm about to miss my own wedding. By 5pm I start to get heart palpitations because I know everyone and their dog is at the gym. I hate that because there are so many asshats in a crowded gym these days (society is on another workout to be cool cycle) and a 1.5 hour session could double. Home workouts just aren't as good as what I get at the gym.

Example: When I travel the first thing I look for in accommodations is a good gym. I'll travel farther to a meeting in the town of my destination to stay in a hotel with a real gym nearby.

Best addiction I've ever had ...

WVUDennis · 06-17-2007, 07:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by soxmuscle

I don't have ADD, I'm not prescribed it. I purchased a couple from a buddy at school on my dorm room floor for finals and had one left over. Now that it's gone, I'm not going to be purchasing it again until I need one to write a paper or have a big test in the fall.

I think I'm smart enough, although the concern is definitely appreciated.

I can certainly see, after last night alone, how the Jason Giambi's and Barry Bond's of the world used it regularly. They play baseball, I lift weights. If they're hitting home runs doing it, just like I hit a PR last night, I can completely see how they wouldn't want to stop. Especially when their salary is on the line...

Your only 19 friend. Addiction come with ease.....you can be addicted to this before you know it. Snorting one a week then 5 a day...

plewser2006 · 06-17-2007, 07:48 PM

i can sense a rerun of saved by the bell any second now

plewser2006 · 06-17-2007, 07:51 PM

now... a more benificial method of getting back on your routine would be to hit the hay a little early.. get the proper amount of rest and restart your routine with a clear head...
aside from that you also have to consider the possibility of toxins in your body, which are not going to help your progress...

i mean
even if it seems like you had a great workout because of your fix...
your doing more harm than good

06-12-2007, 10:17 AM	#1
soxmuscle do work son Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: I will eat your face Posts: 7,883 Photos: 10	Adderall BODYBUILDING SUPPLEMENTS High Quality Supplements For Bodybuilders and Athletes. www.ironmaglabs.com I'd like to start by saying I'm not prescribed adderall. With that being said I used it on occasion during the school year, mostly to study for tests or if I had a big paper to write or something of the sort. I always felt like on days that I had taken adderall my workouts were better, much better. It makes sense, afterall athletes in sports have been using amphetamines for years. Last night, having gone to the Fall Out Boy concert, getting pulled over on the drive home, and watching the Sopranos on Sunday night and not heading to bed until around 5 AM Monday morning (9-5 work day, alarm went off at 8:30) I decided to crush up some adderall and snort a line of it, mainly because it's time released and I didn't want to be up all night for a second consecutive night. My workout last night, which I had been dreading all day, was incredible. I ended up hitting a PR of 405 deadlifting, my first time with four plates on each side. I'm obviously not going to make a habit out of this, I'm just wondering how horrible it is for me to do on select days where I get zero sleep in a night and wouldn't otherwise be able to workout.
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06-12-2007, 11:05 AM	#2
MeatZatk Registered User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Tacoma, WA Posts: 926 Photos: 5	snorting a line of adderall? You've gone to a new level my friend.
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06-12-2007, 11:33 AM	#4
MeatZatk Registered User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Tacoma, WA Posts: 926 Photos: 5	okay, chief
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06-12-2007, 11:38 AM	#5
IainDaniel My Role Model Moderator Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 15,022	Nope, I agree with Meatzak.
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06-12-2007, 11:55 AM	#6
MeatZatk Registered User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Tacoma, WA Posts: 926 Photos: 5	found this on google: Dangerous side effects from inhaling Ritalin and Adderall include: respiratory problems, such as destruction of the nasal and sinus cavities and lung tissue irregular heartbeat (heart arrhythmia) problems with circulation psychotic episodes increased aggression toxic shock death, in extreme cases As Adderall is similar in its chemical makeup to methamphetamine, it poses additional dangers. Extended, continuous abuse can result in developmental problems concerning the brain and negative changes in brain wave activity. If someone misuses/abuses Ritalin, Adderall, or both, help is necessary to stop using, not only to prevent further harm, but also to keep the person safe during withdrawal. Once one has become addicted to these substances, stopping could cause withdrawal symptoms similar to those with cocaine, such as: severe depression psychosis restlessness extreme feelings of agitation You may think that you are safer and more frugal by snorting Ritalin and Adderall, rather than cocaine, but you are harming yourself in similar ways.
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06-12-2007, 11:56 AM	#7
MeatZatk Registered User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Tacoma, WA Posts: 926 Photos: 5	ignore the cocaine part...as I don't think that you're trying to get a cheap thrill or anything. They are just stating that snorting adderall can be just as dangerous as cocaine.
	Define Definition

06-12-2007, 11:58 AM	#8
soxmuscle do work son Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: I will eat your face Posts: 7,883 Photos: 10	Perfect, thanks man. I didn't mean to sound defensive, I simply knew what I was doing when I was doing it. It's not like I'm snorting coke or injecting heroin for the fix, I snorted a miniscule amount of adderall so that I could have a respectable workout (I was literally beat to shit) which actually turned out to be a real good one. I just don't think it's another level in the least.
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06-12-2007, 12:04 PM	#9
MeatZatk Registered User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Tacoma, WA Posts: 926 Photos: 5	I understand what you're saying, but according to more than one article I'm seeing around the net, it is like snorting coke. It may not seem like it because adderall is a prescription drug, but snorting it isn't its intended use. I just don't want to hear how all of a sudden you're only having great workouts after using this stuff.
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06-12-2007, 01:55 PM	#11
fufu fiendish thingy Elite Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 15,631 Photos: 3	I think you would be fine if you did it in moderation. But you might end up liking it so much you'll become "dependent", just becareful. I try to stay away from as much supps as possible because after a while you just want to use them habitually and that costs $$$$. In the long run I don't see a need to do it.
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06-12-2007, 02:25 PM	#12
soxmuscle do work son Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: I will eat your face Posts: 7,883 Photos: 10	I think I'm smart enough to keep it under control, but keep those A&E tapes running, somebody might need to intervene.
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06-12-2007, 07:35 PM	#13
bones33 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 144	Yea boss, i wouldn't compare adderall to coke.. more like diet-coke... i've actually used it before for lifting when i was out of no-xplode haha... kept me up all night though... It did work though.
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06-12-2007, 07:48 PM	#14
MeatZatk Registered User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Tacoma, WA Posts: 926 Photos: 5	I'm not comparing it to coke. From the information I've read, my understanding is that snorting adderall can have the same side effects/dangers as doing coke because inhaling isn't the intended way to take it.
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06-12-2007, 08:14 PM	#15
soxmuscle do work son Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: I will eat your face Posts: 7,883 Photos: 10	I understood what you meant, Meat. I did however figure from your first post that you imagined me itching my neck and craving adderall like Tyrone Biggums.
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06-12-2007, 10:25 PM	#17
MeatZatk Registered User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Tacoma, WA Posts: 926 Photos: 5	yeah, my last post was more a response to Bones saying that adderall is like diet coke.
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06-12-2007, 11:05 PM	#18
Mista Registered User Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Adelaide Posts: 2,237	You could just chew it. Or snort some water to flush your nose out afterwards.

06-13-2007, 09:37 AM	#22
BoneCrusher Lift or Die Elite Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Austin Texas Posts: 8,311	Justifying the abuse. Dude if you're up that long and need rest? Sleep, don't relly on crushing adderall and snorting it as your go-to plan so you can get that scheduled workout in. Snorting it. WTF?!?!? Snorting adderall? <---- = Major flag. I wonder if you're aware that people also shoot adderall and ritalin? Seeing yourself as someone who can "handle" it. Every addict I've ever met was completely sure he/she could handle it, until it handled them. <---- = very vulnerable to the dangers adderall presents. The stronger your personality is the deeper in you'll get before you realize you're in trouble. Not even acknowledging the possibility of danger. <---- Normally = denial. I use stuff to increase my ability to get the job done too. A jam packed protein shake and on a rare occasion even an ECA stack to get through that 18th hour. There's limits though. Pass those limits and you hit the twilight zone. I'll step off my soap-box and stop pounding away in your thread about the dangers of addiction. soxmuscle I mean you no disrespect.

06-13-2007, 10:07 AM	#23
soxmuscle do work son Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: I will eat your face Posts: 7,883 Photos: 10	Believe me, I'm not taking it as disrespectful. And you're right, this twilight zone you speak of is the result of an addiction, but it's not an addiction to adderall, it's an addiction to working out. That's why I keep dismissing it as a problem with the drugs, if anything it's my psychological mentality that if I don't get into the gym, my fucking dick will fall off, which is a completely different situation in my opinion. If you want to talk to me about being addicted, talk to me about what I'm addicted to, which is this bigorexic mentality that constantly runs throughout my brain.
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06-17-2007, 07:48 PM	#26
plewser2006 Young & Dumb User Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Florida Posts: 90 Photos: 2	i can sense a rerun of saved by the bell any second now

06-17-2007, 07:51 PM	#27
plewser2006 Young & Dumb User Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Florida Posts: 90 Photos: 2	now... a more benificial method of getting back on your routine would be to hit the hay a little early.. get the proper amount of rest and restart your routine with a clear head... aside from that you also have to consider the possibility of toxins in your body, which are not going to help your progress... i mean even if it seems like you had a great workout because of your fix... your doing more harm than good