Thread: Quality Microfiltered Whey Isolate Recommendations please.

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I'm looking for a quality microfiltered whey isolate. Hydrolysis and microfiltration are different, right?

PVL whey gourmet is tasty. A little Pricey.

That'll do nicely. Thanks!

Have you seen it in 10lb tubs anywhere?

Whey Protein Isolate

Originally Posted by Prince

Whey Protein Isolate

Prince,

I'm reading Extreme Muscle Enhancement by Carlon M. Colker at the moment. He says, these days, certain high-quality microfiltrates (i.e. microfiltered whey) preserves biologically active sub-fractions, like immunoglobulins and growth factors, that the ion-exchange methods always failed to do. And that these sub-fractions are key, especially in terms of anti-catabolism.

He ranks proteins, for body-building purposes as:
1. A high-end microfiltered whey protein isolate.
2. An average microfiltered whey protein isolate
3. A high-end ion-exchange whey protein isolate
4. An average ion-exchange whey protein isolate
5. A mixed whey protein isolate/concentrate
6. A simple whey protein concentrate
7. Casien

Your link takes me to a page that says their product is the purest whey available because it's fat and sugar free, and Whey Gourmet (recommended above) says it's the Best Tasting Whey On The Market With Almost No Carbs and it utilizes the latest, protein filtration advancements, featuring a unique blend of not 1 but actually 2 whey isolates, with added whey peptides.

The whey gourmet sounds preferable to me (a few carbs never hurt anybody), but how can I know if either is, what Carlon M. Colker refers to as, a high-end microfiltered product or an average microfiltered whey product?

Also... IainDaniel... Is Whey Gourmet sweet tasting? I've been using CytoGainer after my workouts. It's definitely helped with DOMS a lot, but it's sickly sweet. I don't want to end up with a product like that for my rest-of-the-day protein mix. I don't really like sweet foods particularly.

w/thx,
G.

I think you are splitting hairs worrying about if it is microfiltered or not. Honestly, i do.

Well... Maybe... But every little helps.

I just feel that when you are talking about something that specific, you are dealing with the last say 3% of your overall program. if your diet is not perfect and training is not spot on, recovery is not dead on etc....you are just splitting hairs worrying about something some minimal in the bigger picture.

Well... that's fine. That's pretty much what I am doing. My diet is good, I think. There's still some occassional alcohol being consumed, but I'll happily go a week or more without drinking these days (And I'll drink less if I am drinking. Well, mostly anyway. There have been some nights, but still...). I'm a long way from the old me!

There's no doubt I'm getting results, so I must be doing something right. I'm phasing alcohol out entirely. I know that might sounds a little cheesy, but if you'd known me for the past ten years you'd pat me on the back for the changes I've made in my life. It's like I'm not just improving, but the rate of improvement is improving, if you catch my drift. I'm just a different man these days. A better man, getting even better as my confidence, self control and self-image improves. Life is getting easier. I don't want to run away and hide in a buzz any more. I actually like life, like me, and I like the restrictions and rules that bodybuilding imposes on my life. I have a reason not to drink these days. Something to aspire to. Something to look forward to too. It's nice.

I just figured, if I'm going to be buying protein, I'd get whatever my body would like the most. Why not?

Originally Posted by P-funk

I think you are splitting hairs worrying about if it is microfiltered or not. Honestly, i do.

Fair enough.

Originally Posted by P-funk

I think you are splitting hairs worrying about if it is microfiltered or not. Honestly, i do.

Can the same be said for Whey Concentrate Vs Whey Isolate?

Originally Posted by P-funk

I just feel that when you are talking about something that specific, you are dealing with the last say 3% of your overall program. if your diet is not perfect and training is not spot on, recovery is not dead on etc....you are just splitting hairs worrying about something some minimal in the bigger picture.

Listen to PFunk

hes huge. He knows what he's talking about.



However, there is a distinct difference between concentrate and isolate.


concentrate gives me mega-gas, and digests slower (in my experience)

I'm listening to everyone, accutely! I know nothing!

Yesterday I got advice from all kinds of people re: my workouts and I've clearly been barking up the wrong tree from the get-go! Pushing to failure almost every time is dumb. Doing so many sets is dumb. Doing so many reps is dumb. I'm currently a walking disaster it seems!

I'm going to relearn, rethink and reevaluate everything, then get feedback on the new (hopefully "improved") plan of attack!

Thanks all for your help. Much appreciated.

Originally Posted by P-funk

I think you are splitting hairs worrying about if it is microfiltered or not. Honestly, i do.

I agree. I have never seen a difference in microfiltered or blends or concentrates. Its the same shit.

Funny, becuase the guy who wrote Extreme Muscle Enhancement is adamant that there is a significant difference. He's apparently a doctor and advisor to many of the big pros. He quotes all manner of clinical research tests and goes into molecular detail of what is different and why.

Funk's probably on the money though. There is a difference, but it's not a lot.

Still... next time, I think I'll try the microfiltered stuff anyway (a slong as it's not much more expensive). Even if there is no difference between it an concentrate it's not going to hurt anything.

Thanks again everyone for your posts. Much appreciated.

[QUOTE=Big G;1649375]He's apparently a doctor and advisor to many of the big pros.QUOTE]


The bog pro's represent the top. The cream of the crop. The elite. They need to worry about that last 3%. You don't.

Also, post the article or references to the research the author is referring too. Research can shown anything you want it too. Also, research gets poorly interpreted a lot of time....just look at all the shit the media spews out.

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Originally Posted by juggernaut

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I hear you loud and clear.

Thx for the smiles.

G.

[QUOTE=P-funk;1649391]

Originally Posted by Big G

He's apparently a doctor and advisor to many of the big pros.QUOTE]


The bog pro's represent the top. The cream of the crop. The elite. They need to worry about that last 3%. You don't. OK. Kewl. Suits me. I'm just buying whatever the hell is cheap and tastes good then. You probably just saved me a few bucks. Thanks!

Also, post the article or references to the research the author is referring too. OK. I'll see what I can do, although I think he just said "in numerous clinical studies..." or something to that effect. He's bound to have some references in there though. I have a little look-see.

Research can shown anything you want it too. Also, research gets poorly interpreted a lot of time....just look at all the shit the media spews out. Geez! It's hard to wade through the crap you need and the crap you don't in this field sometimes.