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    Tongkat Ali

    Ok, not to be used in a stictly bodybuilding sense, but would this product give me that reat "sense of wellbeing" feeling that adds a little sparkle to the day?

    Pure Tongkat Ali/Longjack 50:1 Root Extract 400mg capsules.

    I've seen products that combine this and Trib (like AM rx), and give that nice feeling. (And perhaps a little extra on workouts..)

    Anyone have experience?

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    Yes, Trib and Tongkat also help with deep sleep.

    You have to be careful with brands though, and just because it says 50:1 Tongkat does not mean shit. In the original AMRx we used a 20:1 Tongkat and it worked great, so we decided to try using a 100:1 Tongkat and received complaints, we ended up going back to the 20:1 Tongkat.

    We recently put out a Tribulus product and it is now our best seller, we only used a 20% extract but it is high quality Trib in 1,000mg tablets, my point is don't get too caught up in extract percentages and ratios, yes they are important but so is the company that is producing them. A good company like IronMagLabs uses quality ingredients, many of them just get the cheapest they can find to increase profits.

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    Yeah, IM labs have a good reputation. I liked AM rx when i tried it. Although at the moment i'm overseas and can't get it just now.

    The 50:1 part meant very little to me anyway. I was more interested in the herbs effects. I don't know much about ratio's, does a 100:1 ratio mean that it's a 100% extract?

    Am i correct in the asumption that (good quality) tongkat ali will give a noticeable "sense of wellbieng"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by goob View Post
    Yeah, IM labs have a good reputation. I liked AM rx when i tried it. Although at the moment i'm overseas and can't get it just now.

    The 50:1 part meant very little to me anyway. I was more interested in the herbs effects. I don't know much about ratio's, does a 100:1 ratio mean that it's a 100% extract?

    Am i correct in the asumption that (good quality) tongkat ali will give a noticeable "sense of wellbieng"?
    I think the ratio's just mean how potent it is. So a 100:1 extract is 4 times as potent as 25:1 extract so theoretically you should see more profound effects, but that doesn't mean you really will.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HaRdWoRkInG View Post
    I think the ratio's just mean how potent it is. So a 100:1 extract is 4 times as potent as 25:1 extract so theoretically you should see more profound effects, but that doesn't mean you really will.
    exactly on both points.

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    Thanks for the info guys.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Prince View Post
    exactly on both points.
    there may me microfractions of nutrients or bioactive compounds that are taken out in the more "potent" extracts
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    I have found some strange inconsistencies regarding LJ100. Source
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