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    Kewl. Will do. Got appt Mon 8:15am (after they fucking rescheduled me from this morning, like it's no big deal, it can wait - bastards).
    Used to.. DL:375lb, Sqt:335lb, Bnch:260lb
    Now... Weak as a kitten, but fighting back.
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    OK... Bloodwork results...

    None of this means shit to me, but if any of you know what you're looking at I'd be grateful for any and all comments. Very grateful indeed.

    Hematology
    WBC (4.6-10.2): 8.5
    RBC (4.3-5.7): 4.33
    HGB (13.5-17.5): 14.3
    HCT (39.0-49.0): 41.4
    MCV (80.0-97.0): 95.6
    MCHC (32.0-36.0): 34.6
    RDW (11.0-14.8): 13.2
    PLT (142-424): 197
    MPV (6.2-12.1): 8
    NEUT ABS (1.8-7.7): 4.1
    LYMPH ABS (1.0-4.8): 3.2
    MONO ABS (0.0-0.9): 0.8
    EOSIN ABS (0.0-0.7): 0.2
    BASO ABS (0.0-0.2): 0.3 H
    AUTO SEG (40-70): 48.5
    AUTO LYMPH (22-44): 37.7
    AUTO MONO (0-12): 8.9
    AUTO EOSIN (0-7): 2
    AUTO BASO (0-2): 2.9 H

    Chemistry
    GLUC (70-110): 120 H
    BUN (8-20): 32 H
    CREAT (0.6-1.3): 0.9
    NA (136-145): 137
    K (3.6-5.1): 3.7
    CI (98-107): 3.7
    CO2 (22-32): 27
    AGAP (6-18): 6

    CKMB-Troponin
    CK (21-232): 454 H

    ESR
    WSR (0-15): 6

    Ur Microscopic Panel
    U WBC (0-5/HPF): <1
    U RBC (0-5): 1
    U BACTERIA (None/HPF): Rare A
    U SQ EPI (FEW/LPF): Rare
    U MUCUS (NONE/LPF): Rare A

    Urinalysis Screen Panel
    U APPEAR (Clear): Clear
    U COLOR (Yellow): Straw
    U PH (4.5-8.0): 5
    U SP GRAV (1.002-1.03): 1.019
    U GLUCOSE (NORMAL): Normal
    U BLOOD (NEGATIVE): 10/UL A
    U KETONES (NEGATIVE): Negative
    U PROTEIN (NEGATIVE): Negative
    U UROBILN (NORMAL): Normal
    U BILI (NEGATIVE): Negative
    U LEUK EST (NEGATIVE): Negative
    U NITRATE (NEGATIVE): Negative

    So... anything interesting in there?
    There are a few H numbers. The doc said the 454 reading for CK (CKMB Troponin) meant that there was higher than normal amount of crap in my blood from me tearing up my muscles in the gym, but it was nothing to worry about for a Gym Rat. That's about all he said other than "You need an MRI" and "If you can't afford an MRI, eat pretzels. Maybe it's a sodium issue."

    As of 8/30 the sodium thing seems to be working out fairly well. I posted a fairly lengthy post about it here, but the long and short of it is that things to be healing. My head barely hurts and I've even been back to the gym a couple of times in the past week without any more killer pain.

    Still though... I'd be really interested in what the other H numbers mean, and anything anyone else has to offer.

    Any thoughts?

    w/thx,
    G.
    Used to.. DL:375lb, Sqt:335lb, Bnch:260lb
    Now... Weak as a kitten, but fighting back.
    Age:38. Trained 11/06-12/09. Feet surgeries & hip problems:12/09-12/11. Fighting back:12/11+. New Training Journal and Food Log.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fufu View Post
    I think it is from not drinking enough water.

    Solution - drink more water.
    there ya go

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big G View Post
    OK... Bloodwork results...

    None of this means shit to me, but if any of you know what you're looking at I'd be grateful for any and all comments. Very grateful indeed.

    Hematology
    WBC (4.6-10.2): 8.5 White blood cells, so all of the cells of your immune system
    RBC (4.3-5.7): 4.33 Red blood cells, carry oxygen around your body
    HGB (13.5-17.5): 14.3 Haemoglobin, the pigment in RBCs that is the actual carrier
    HCT (39.0-49.0): 41.4 Haemocrit or packed cell volume

    MCV (80.0-97.0): 95.6 Mean cell volume of the red blood cells, yours are pushing being a bit big

    MCHC (32.0-36.0): 34.6 Mean cell haemoglobin count

    RDW (11.0-14.8): 13.2 A couple more calculated parameters, can't remember right now
    PLT (142-424): 197
    MPV (6.2-12.1): 8
    NEUT ABS (1.8-7.7): 4.1 neutrophils, the first line defense, these can shoot through the roof with just running up the stairs
    LYMPH ABS (1.0-4.8): 3.2 Lympocytes, or your T and B cells Adapted immune response, meaning more specific to any invaders
    MONO ABS (0.0-0.9): 0.8 monocytes are the 'garbage eaters', once tagged with immunoglobin, these cells find the invaders and eat them
    EOSIN ABS (0.0-0.7): 0.2 Eosinophils defend against things like parasites

    BASO ABS (0.0-0.2): 0.3 H Related to hypersensitivity response, only a wee bit high,but will check on that

    AUTO SEG (40-70): 48.5 Sorry, have to check on this again
    AUTO LYMPH (22-44): 37.7
    AUTO MONO (0-12): 8.9
    AUTO EOSIN (0-7): 2
    AUTO BASO (0-2): 2.9 H

    Chemistry
    GLUC (70-110): 120 H - Was this a fasting glucose? If not you need to get one, and if that is still high, a glucose tolerance test (GTT). Having diabetes could be the reason for your dehydration, whereever glucose goes, as it is osmotically active, the water follows

    BUN (8-20): 32 H This is high, but it is a measure of 1. dehydration (which we know you are) and 2. High protein consumption

    CREAT (0.6-1.3): 0.9 Measure of the function of your kidneys, also dependent on the amount of muscle

    NA (136-145): 137

    K (3.6-5.1): 3.7
    CI (98-107): 3.7 Is this a typo? Your electrolytes are a bit on the low side, how much salt are you eating? Your electrolytes are essential to fluid balance in the body

    CO2 (22-32): 27
    AGAP (6-18): 6 Anion gap was calculated, not a measured serum osmolality, which I would also recommend, again, it is normal, but at the lower end, suggesting you are lacking electrolytes.
    CKMB-Troponin
    CK (21-232): 454 H This is indicative of muscular damage, however, as you were just training, this could be normal, I would suggest you have this on a day when you have NOT been training.

    ESR-erythrocyte sedimentation rate

    WSR (0-15): 6 I think this is your sedimentation rate, this test is basically USELESS to measure with the exception of multiple myeloma or rheumatoid arthritis

    Ur Microscopic Panel NOT a microbiologist, I avoid a lot of this stuff LIKE the plague U WBC (0-5/HPF): <1
    U RBC (0-5): 1
    U BACTERIA (None/HPF): Rare A
    U SQ EPI (FEW/LPF): Rare
    U MUCUS (NONE/LPF): Rare A

    Urinalysis Screen Panel
    U APPEAR (Clear): Clear
    U COLOR (Yellow): Straw
    U PH (4.5-8.0): 5
    U SP GRAV (1.002-1.03): 1.019
    U GLUCOSE (NORMAL): Normal
    U BLOOD (NEGATIVE): 10/UL A
    U KETONES (NEGATIVE): Negative
    U PROTEIN (NEGATIVE): Negative
    U UROBILN (NORMAL): Normal
    U BILI (NEGATIVE): Negative
    U LEUK EST (NEGATIVE): Negative
    U NITRATE (NEGATIVE): Negative

    So... anything interesting in there?
    There are a few H numbers. The doc said the 454 reading for CK (CKMB Troponin) meant that there was higher than normal amount of crap in my blood from me tearing up my muscles in the gym, but it was nothing to worry about for a Gym Rat. That's about all he said other than "You need an MRI" and "If you can't afford an MRI, eat pretzels. Maybe it's a sodium issue."

    As of 8/30 the sodium thing seems to be working out fairly well. I posted a fairly lengthy post about it here, but the long and short of it is that things to be healing. My head barely hurts and I've even been back to the gym a couple of times in the past week without any more killer pain.

    Still though... I'd be really interested in what the other H numbers mean, and anything anyone else has to offer.

    Any thoughts?

    w/thx,
    G.

    I will take a boo at some haematology stuff again just to refresh my memory.

    I do think it may have something to do with your salt intake, however the high glucose does need to be followed up just to be on the safe side.

    Did you have a pre-workout drink or post work out drink with carbs in it before you were bled?

    Did your anion gap have a plus or minus sign next to it?

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    before reading all of this thread i had a suspicion that you could be flushing your electrolytes by drinking TOO MUCH water...

    i dont know much about your blood work
    but i would bet that your electrolytes are low or imbalanced

    in my opinion
    if you are pissing clear, ALL THE TIME, this could indicate that your putting too much water through your system, and thus flushing electrolytes

    you should be pissing fairly clear
    but if your pissing pure water, all day, every day
    then that suggests, to me, that your putting to much water through your system, for the amount of electrolytes your consuming


    i wouldn't suggest you cut back on water consumption though...

    i would suggest you increase your sodium intake...

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