Best Micellar/Casein protein blend(night time)

PreMier · 08-07-2007, 04:10 PM

Best before bed protein blend? I usually stick with pro peptide, but im open to other options.. what do you use?

PreMier · 08-07-2007, 07:25 PM

Lot of help you fuckers were.. I wanted quick results damnit! haha

Anyway im going with ultra peptide from xtreme formulations. It has high micellar content compared to the syntha 6 I was looking at as well. Iwill report back here if I like it better than the dorian approved pro peptide.

Yanick · 08-07-2007, 07:26 PM

Sorry bro, all i do is whey and muscle milk. Its not casein, but has fat to slow down digestion a bit.

soxmuscle · 08-07-2007, 07:33 PM

I use Muscle Milk. Cheap, effective.

**CowPimp** · 08-08-2007, 02:04 PM

I think T-Nation's store (BioTest) makes something called Grow. Usually their stuff is high quality, albeit it a bit overpriced in my opinion.

PreMier · 08-08-2007, 02:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yanick

Sorry bro, all i do is whey and muscle milk. Its not casein, but has fat to slow down digestion a bit.

Quote:

Originally Posted by soxmuscle

I use Muscle Milk. Cheap, effective.

First off, muscle milk isnt that much cheaper than a caesin.micellar protein like pro peptide, or ultra peptide like the one I purchased.

I blame the quality of the question I asked.. not your answers. I was looking for the BEST night time protein.. and the main difference is the rate of absorbtion from the different protein powders. whey protein fractions are digested and modulated at a much higher rate than caesin and milk protein isolates (contains both whey and caesin) due to the difference in the actual protein structures. so in esseence the amino acids from a caesin based protein supplement are actually released at a lower rate into the bloodstream..aka time released.

Looking at the ingredients of muscle milk show that it contains mostly whey protein concentrates/isolates and peptides. Plus caesin contains several times the amount of L-leucine than whey. L-leucine is a very anticatabolic amino acid.. so it is the combination of the slower absorbing caesin and the high amounts of L-leucine that make is superior for night time use over whey protein.

Yanick · 08-08-2007, 05:23 PM

You're right Jake, i was referring more to digestion time in the GI tract with the fat comment. Anyway i'm not really into all those supps and what not all i take is protein, fish oil and vit/min.

PS welcome back big guy! I've been wondering where you've been.

PreMier · 08-08-2007, 07:59 PM

I'll send you a PM

**dg806** · 08-08-2007, 08:50 PM

I always loved egg protein.

katt · 08-08-2007, 09:47 PM

I always drink a casein protein shake before I go to bed... always!

kcs9 · 08-11-2007, 05:52 PM

Premier....I've been taking micellar matrix for a while and before that I was taking Optimum's 100% Casein. Don't really think there's a huge difference. I'm going back to ON Casein right now just to switch it up. It also has aminogen in it (ON claims it helps your body absord amino acids better) and a decent amount of BCAAs, glutamine, etc. Basically this shake with some natty pb is the best thing you can take in before bed.

AKIRA · 08-11-2007, 07:52 PM

What brand Caseins are you guys using for a night time shake? I dont ever recall seeing any Casein specific protein powders,

just whey and egg proteins.

vortrit · 08-11-2007, 08:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AKIRA

What brand Caseins are you guys using for a night time shake? I dont ever recall seeing any Casein specific protein powders,

just whey and egg proteins.

I can get Casein powder from the local health food store. It's 20 bucks for 2 1/2 pounds.

AKIRA · 08-11-2007, 09:35 PM

Well whats it called? Does it blantanly say Casein on the front? I read the ingredients anyway, but if something should stick out...

fufu · 08-11-2007, 09:50 PM

ON makes casein powder, more expensive than whey though.

vortrit · 08-11-2007, 11:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AKIRA

Well whats it called? Does it blantanly say Casein on the front? I read the ingredients anyway, but if something should stick out...

It's say 100% protein with micellar casein on the front. The company name that makes it is Iron-Tek. I get it at Akin's Health Food store.

This is a five pound jug. Bodybuilding.com - Iron-Tek Essential Natural 100% Protein - With Micellar Casein! On sale now!

It's actually a blend but it works and it's way cheaper than buying casein.

FishOrCutBait · 08-12-2007, 09:50 AM

I like All The Whey's Micellar Casein, because its just Micellar Casein with a little flavoring, thats it.

1morerrrep · 08-12-2007, 10:46 AM

Biotest's Metabolic Drive is my favorite protein blend. Check it out:

TESTOSTERONE NATION - Protein Magic

08-07-2007, 04:10 PM	#1
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08-07-2007, 07:25 PM	#2
PreMier happy sumo Elite Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 21,308 Photos: 2	Lot of help you fuckers were.. I wanted quick results damnit! haha Anyway im going with ultra peptide from xtreme formulations. It has high micellar content compared to the syntha 6 I was looking at as well. Iwill report back here if I like it better than the dorian approved pro peptide.
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08-07-2007, 07:26 PM	#3
Yanick Amor Fati Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 3,798	Sorry bro, all i do is whey and muscle milk. Its not casein, but has fat to slow down digestion a bit.
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08-08-2007, 05:23 PM	#7
Yanick Amor Fati Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 3,798	You're right Jake, i was referring more to digestion time in the GI tract with the fat comment. Anyway i'm not really into all those supps and what not all i take is protein, fish oil and vit/min. PS welcome back big guy! I've been wondering where you've been.
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08-08-2007, 07:59 PM	#8
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08-08-2007, 09:47 PM	#10
katt Registered User Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Pacific Northwest Posts: 4,137 Photos: 37	I always drink a casein protein shake before I go to bed... always!

08-11-2007, 05:52 PM	#11
kcs9 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 6	Premier....I've been taking micellar matrix for a while and before that I was taking Optimum's 100% Casein. Don't really think there's a huge difference. I'm going back to ON Casein right now just to switch it up. It also has aminogen in it (ON claims it helps your body absord amino acids better) and a decent amount of BCAAs, glutamine, etc. Basically this shake with some natty pb is the best thing you can take in before bed.
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08-11-2007, 07:52 PM	#12
AKIRA I am Rollo Tomassee.. Elite Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Outside the box Posts: 7,925 Photos: 3	What brand Caseins are you guys using for a night time shake? I dont ever recall seeing any Casein specific protein powders, just whey and egg proteins.
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AKIRA I am Rollo Tomassee.. Elite Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Outside the box Posts: 7,925 Photos: 3	Well whats it called? Does it blantanly say Casein on the front? I read the ingredients anyway, but if something should stick out...
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fufu fiendish thingy Elite Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 16,491 Photos: 7	ON makes casein powder, more expensive than whey though.
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08-12-2007, 09:50 AM	#17
FishOrCutBait lifts weights Elite Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Buffalo, MN Posts: 4,296 Blog Entries: 1 Photos: 2	I like All The Whey's Micellar Casein, because its just Micellar Casein with a little flavoring, thats it.
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08-12-2007, 10:46 AM	#18
1morerrrep Registered User Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Brooklyn, NY Posts: 17 Photos: 6	Biotest's Metabolic Drive is my favorite protein blend. Check it out: TESTOSTERONE NATION - Protein Magic

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