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Old 04-15-2008, 09:59 PM   #31
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when i say steroids are ok at 18, im talking about someone who just wants to take steroids for the hell of it, to get big and srong and what not.

i would recommend at least 20 for someone who is trying to turn pro. like myself. starting steroids at 24 or 25? dude some guys are pro by then and you think they are all natural? lol

whatever
Why do say that??
In the younger athlete using AAS, the risk of premature epiphyseal plate closure does exist. This will result in stunting one's longitudinal bone growth. In addition, AAS also have been associated with an increased risk of tendon tears........

decreased HDL, increased cholesterol, increased triglycerides, elevated blood pressure, and increased risk of thrombosis. The magnitude of the effect may differ depending upon the AAS used..........

acne, male-pattern baldness, gynecomastia, decreased sperm count, testicular atrophy, impotence, and transient infertility. In addition, increases in the risk of liver tumors and liver damage are often discussed as a consequence of AAS use..........

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Old 04-15-2008, 10:07 PM   #32
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and you say im the one starting stuff? you think you are cool cuz you call me stupid names? im so above you its rediculous.

what are your stats?

age
height
weight

???



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You have had attitude since your first post on roids...chill the fuck out and quit saying how stupid everyone is for saying kids should wait until their early 20's...thats the only point anyone has made. Use them all you want, some of these kids have no business doing them, and it is obvious by their posts, they have no f'ing clue what they are getting into...if you do...cool. More to you for researching, but when a 19/20 yr old gets on here with no idea what it is all about, most will say stay the fuck away. Not a bad thing if you really take a look at it objectively, to steer naive kids away form AAS. Me...no AAS...I am:
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No AAS, and I just workout to be healthy, I am very competitive, lifted since 14 yrs old, through college football, and do it now for no other reason than myself. No competing, no contests, just to feel good. People are here trying to steer dumbasses from roids, not pass judgement, but save a life or health risks for some naive person. Later...good luck..chill bro..no one is attacking you personally, but you take offense when someone says a kid should wait until early 20's to start. You always go off on here when that comment is made. Big deal, if it doesn't apply to YOU, then let guys on here give sound, healthy advice to others with no idea. Peace...
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Yep...took the estro, trib after cycle, and did a Liver Longer tab once a day while on cycle the whole time. Had Nolva on hand just in case,but never needed it.
the guy at muscle max recommended that i use this cycle:
Tren xtreme & tt-40 30 days
Third week on cycle start using Estro xtreme
Fourth week start using Max anabol and Tribulus max

What do you think about this cycle biggfly? I thought it would be too much for my liver if i use tt-40 and tren at the same time... your help is appreciated
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Ya...I would sub the TT-40 for the AH-89...it would be a better stacker and less strain on the liver. The AH-89 will serve as nice recomp for your stack, not really adding any bulk or mass...I would do that.
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36.....why are you even on here?



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I did

stanzobol
mass
liver protector
test booster

i gained 25 lbs in 2 months.

its a lot cheaper than the stack the max muslce guy recommended and worked great.

and btw, max muscle isnt a good place for prohormone purchases. try to find a Nutrition Zone.



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36.....why are you even on here?
What?? Get the fuck off here you little fuck.
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36.....why are you even on here?
You knock my age 36?? Well then a shit load of these moderators and even the ADMIN who owns this site,is older than that and you just keep pushing it. 20 huh?? Lifting heavy weights already making you feel like a tough guy. Typical. So typical.
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36.....why are you even on here?
For the same reasons you are. What kind of question was that? I think you need to check that attitude of yours.



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hahaha im typical? you are just a typical old asshole who thinks kids dont know shit and are punks. im only hostile to people who are that way towards me. dont get butt hurt because you have no genetic potential.

go ahead and keep calling me names cuz im a kid if it makes you feel better.



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as someone who is 30 years old, Ican say young people should NOT be taking drugs to get big.

When you get older, and yoiur body slows down, its harder to get gains and such. Thats when these drugs and sups come in, to help.

Im glad I never did any steroids I see some guys who did roids when they where in high school, and yeah they were big in high school, but they ALL look like crap now.

with that said, can someone tell me what PH is, and where to by this stuff?
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hahaha im typical? you are just a typical old asshole who thinks kids dont know shit and are punks. im only hostile to people who are that way towards me. dont get butt hurt because you have no genetic potential.

go ahead and keep calling me names cuz im a kid if it makes you feel better.
No one has been hostile toward you. They were just trying to give you their honest opinion. If you don't like their opinions, then fine, but don't lash out like you have. You do behave like a child where, when they don't get what they want, they throw a fit. And it is obvious, that you need more education on steriod usage, and that is not a bad thing. Just use this as an opportunity to learn and not let your ego get in the way.



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