Thread: Growth Hormones

why would you consider using that at 19 if at your age you migth still be in a growin stage.........................how many years you been training?

The use of GH is wasted on anyone under the age of 30 as your levels are naturally high.

GH secretion decreases with age, at your age, they are high.

There is a risk if there is any tumours present, or you have had a haemopoetic cancer, such as leukaemia, that it could be triggered again.

I do think that GH cause EVERYTHING to grow, the effects are cumulative.

It can also have an impact on your appearance, in women it causes the forehead and cheekbones to get bigger, in men, nose and, I forget the rest.

You are TOO YOUNG to be taking any performance enhancing drugs, unless of course you are an elite athlete who is willing to cheat to compete at the international level.


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This should be in the steroid section. You don't wanna touch GH yet also keep in mind its very expensive and would require you to buy insulin and IGf and youd need to stick yourself every day with a insulin needle.

Thanks all for your replies, the 2 reasons i want to use hgh is for Growth in Height and Muscle mass. Lol at the sly pics, Nick Nolte was on them too was he not?

THere are natural ways you can get your GH to 'spike' naturally without messing with your endocrine system at your age.

Do some reading, it is a waste at your age

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Someone please correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't believe Growth Hormone has anything to do with a persons height. Height is determined by your skeletal structure and you can't change that no matter what you take.

i remember 19inch telling me he used some once

PS: your body creates GH..it's released when exercising, and you're only 19, i wouldn't worry about having a shortage of it any time soon

anyone heard of thisstuff called growthflexV ? google it up and read about it, it comes with 100% money back garantee. Supposudly its better than the injectable GH cause this stuff makes u release ur own and in huge amounts. Like ppl growing up to 3 inches in 4 months.

Originally Posted by sensamilia

anyone heard of thisstuff called growthflexV ? google it up and read about it, it comes with 100% money back garantee. Supposudly its better than the injectable GH cause this stuff makes u release ur own and in huge amounts. Like ppl growing up to 3 inches in 4 months.

Three inches WHERE? I can make my stomach grow three inches with a keg of beer.

LOL!

Tatyana yeah i've done some looking into that, i read somewhere that you can stimulate the pituity gland through the soles of your feet although i feel its farfetched it's worth looking into.
Sensamilia thanks for ur post it sounds good from what you said i will lookin into that now

Originally Posted by semiskimmed

LOL!

Tatyana yeah i've done some looking into that, i read somewhere that you can stimulate the pituity gland through the soles of your feet although i feel its farfetched it's worth looking into.
Sensamilia thanks for ur post it sounds good from what you said i will lookin into that now

Ok, I was thinking of a few more things scientific.

I am a mod on a wee bodybuilding forum that does not promote steroids, mainly just RECOVERY from people doing STUPID cycles, so HRT/TRT is a big issue.

I will cut and paste a few bits from our GH thread.


Natural Growth Hormone And YOUR Training Program

Exercise intensity is key when it comes to activating a GH response in your body. You want your workouts to be rather fast and furious, keeping total workout time no greater than 60 minutes. After that, you start to see a rapid decline in hormone response in the body.

You have a lot of work to do in just 60 minutes so in order to maximize your time in the gym, stick to “supersets” for your exercises and keep your rest periods to a minimum (about 60-90 seconds between sets). A superset involves going straight from exercise 1 to exercise 2 without resting or with minimal rest in between. Once you’ve completed both exercises, you will take a short break (remember...”short” means just 60-90 seconds!) and go back to exercise 1 again to hit the next superset.

Keep your repetition count high (around 8-12 repetitions per set). This will help activate a lactic acid response in your muscles and lactic acid in turn activates the release of growth hormone. You’re going for the “burn” in this program!

Be sure to pause and squeeze your targeted muscle at the peak contraction point (for bicep curls as an example, this would be in the “up” position). This will really activate the lactic acid response as well as make sure you’re hitting deep into your muscle fibers.

Once you’re done with your workout, save about 5 minutes at the end for “sprint training”...

Researchers from Loughborough University have shown that a group of athletes who conducted a short series of 30-second sprints reached growth hormone levels 25 TIMES their resting levels approximately 30 minutes after training. You’re not going to want to miss out on THOSE kinds of results!

So at the end of your workout, do three to six 30-second sprints on your gym’s track or on the road to finish off the day and set yourself up for peak GH output.

Low levels of GH and high levels of Insulin are both associated with obesity (Bray 1983).

Lactic Acid may be the trigger substrate for GHRH (Growth Hormone releasing hormone) (this means train hard to the burn to kick of GH)

GH levels generally and peak GH levels particularly drop 40% from age twenty-thirty and another 40% from age thirty-forty. There is a further drop beyond this with increasing age.

All GH levels, especially exercise induced GH release, decline rapidly through the thirties (Bazzare 1975, Prinz 1976, Zadik 1985).

GH blocks Insulin activity, stopping Glucose uptake into muscle cells.

High Glycemic Carbs block GH releasers.

It is GH's similarity to Insulin that causes fat loss by blocking Insulin's conversion of Glucose to fat.

GH encourages the use of fat for energy (Murad 1980).

Both GH and Insulin are required for muscle growth.

10 Grams of oral Arginine powder 1 Hour (1.5 Hours for capsules) produces GH release sufficient for fat burning and muscle growth when coupled with peak output exercise. (Individuals over 200 lbs probably need 12 Grams of Arginine.)

While Thyroid Stimulating Hormone may release GH, Thyroid Hormone itself (Thyroxine) does not.

The Hypothalamus produces GHRH which causes the Pituitary to release STH. There may be a number of intermediary and/or supplementary hormone secretions from various glands We are unaware of any definitive research on which hormones trigger or block other hormone secretions and in what order or at what levels. Among the secretions affected, in addition to GH, are Prolactin, Luteinizing Hormone, Follicle Stimulating Hormone, Thyroid Stimulating Hormone and, as previously mentioned, Insulin.

The point is that while the muscle press applauded GH releasers and has now become almost dismissive of them and is now dealing with Insulin in somewhat the same way, the picture is far more complex then any of these journals have reported. As an example, to insure GH releaser effectiveness, a five hour time window is necessary, 3 hours before and two hours after. This window can be manipulated through the use of other substrates. Niacin, for example can be used to more rapidly reduce blood sugar levels but careful attention to dosage levels and timing are absolutely essential to the use of GH releasing nutrients. Moreover, this was made clear by Pearson and Shaw when they first introduced the idea to the bodybuilding world. (Though the Baryology (weight-control) research community had been aware of it for some time before.)

The GH release effect of Arginine is through Acetyl-Choline release. Acetyl-Choline levels must be kept high if GH release efforts are to be successful.

Low Potassium levels (as from diuretics), block GH release.

Phenylalanine and/or Tyrosine do not cause GH release but are involved in CCK production and thus appetite control.

Ornithine is twice as effective as Arginine in causing GH release.

Since Arginine causes an Insulin release, even in the absence of raised blood sugar levels, it produces a form of reactive hypoglycemia which accounts for a small portion of its GH Release action. This portion of the Arginine generated GH release is less affected by the proximity of dose administration to other protein intake.

The use of Melatonin may encourage GH release through the same mechanism as Tryptophan, the increase in serotonin levels at night.

The use of B-6 (pyridoxine) to augment exercise-induced GH release may work in individuals over age 30. If it does, it would require a 600 Mg oral dose 45 minutes before exercise. There are two problems with this approach: If it is used frequently, peripheral neuralgia may develop. Even occassional use can produce psychological depression which may last for days afterward.

Naturally increase GH - 12-27-2006, 06:29 AM

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High-carb diets may be appropriate in many situations but, since hyperglycaemia (elevated blood carbohydrate) tends to switch off human growth hormone (hGH) secretion, this strategy may not be appropriate where optimal adaptation is the priority. Fat taken before exercise has also been found to reduce human growth hormone (hGH) secretion (2).

It is hard to argue against the use of carbohydrate immediately after training in the few days leading up to a competition, when it is important to ensure that carbohydrate stores in the muscles are fully repleted. However, this is not the best strategy for maintaining the release of human growth hormone (hGH) after exercise, particularly if the carbs have a high glycaemic index, as these (sugary) foods stimulate insulin secretion which, in turn, contributes to a reduction in human growth hormone (hGH) (3).


It is also important to drink plenty of water during training, as dehydration has been shown to significantly reduce the exercise-induced human growth hormone (hGH) response (4).


As far as supplementation before exercise is concerned, it has been shown that ingestion of 1.5g of arginine will increase human growth hormone (hGH) secretion by blocking release of the hGH-inhibitor somatostatin, I also read 1.5 g of lysine as well although some studies have suggested this causes gastric disturbance(5). However, 2g of glutamine will lead to elevation of human growth hormone (hGH) 90 minutes later without side effects (6). It may also be a good idea to ingest some amino acids after exercise, as this has been shown to enhance human growth hormone (hGH) secretion too (7).

In terms of training, research has shown that to achieve an elevation of human growth hormone (hGH) above baseline you need to spend at least 10 minutes training at above lactate threshold intensity (8) This results in the biggest volume of human growth hormone (hGH) secreted in response to a single exercise bout, with levels of the hormone declining gradually over a period of an hour. It is also known that multiple daily sessions can give rise to optimal human growth hormone (hGH) secretion over a 24-hour period.

One study investigating the effects of three exercise sessions a day with either 1.5 or three-hour recovery periods between them found that the longer recoveries led to the greatest volume of 24-hour human growth hormone (hGH) secretion (9). Another showed an even larger human growth hormone (hGH) peak in response to sprints on an exercise bike (10).

In the light of the above-mentioned research and current recommendations for both diet and exercise, it might be a good idea to think about ‘periodising’ diet in a similar way to training. During periods of training, when we are trying to increase muscle mass, minimise body fat and maximise the adaptive response to training, it would seem logical to adopt an hGH-enhancing approach, reverting to a high-carb diet before and during competition.

Exercise and dietary strategies
In summary, then, exercise above lactate threshold induces the secretion of human growth hormone (hGH), promoting the use of fat as fuel. This, in turn, spares muscle carbohydrate, keeps body fat down and muscle mass high and enhances adaptation to specific exercise stimuli. The benefits are clear, but simply switching to high intensity work for the whole year is not the answer; rather, a periodised programme, where the number of sprints or higher intensity workouts alters according to the competitive programme, is the best way forward.

A suggested exercise and dietary strategy for optimising human growth hormone (hGH) secretion is as follows:

Exercise – three sessions per week, each involving at least 10 minutes’ work above lactate threshold or a number of sprints, with a 1:3 work-rest ratio;
Before exercise – no fat for 60 minutes before, 2g glutamine 60-90 minutes before;
During exercise – plenty of plain water (ie 200 ml every 10-15 minutes if training in 18-21°C);
After exercise – avoid sugar for two hours post exercise but take 25g protein immediately afterwards in the form of either a protein shake, protein bar, lean meat or eggs (although you should limit your consumption of eggs to avoid too much cholesterol).
Richard Godfrey

References
Growth hormone and IGF Research 8(suppl B): 127-9, 1998
Journal of Clinical Endocrinology and Metabolism, 76(6): 1418-22, 1993
Metabolism 48(9): 1152-6
European Journal of Endocrinology, 45(4): 445-50, 2001
American Journal of Physiology; Regulative and Integrative Comparative Physiology 279(4):R1455-66, 2000
American Journal of Clinical Nutrition, 61: 1058-1061, 1995
Medicine and Science in Sports and Exercise, 31(12): 1748-54, 1999
Journal of Endocrinology and Metabolism, 75: 157-162, 1992
Journal of Applied Physiology, 83(5): 1756-1761, 1997
European Journal of Applied Physiology, 72: 460-467, 1996


So I have read that starvation and exercise increases GH which will increase the number of muscle cells.

Last year on the comp diet and training, I put on 3 kg of lean tissue in about 3 months.

That was running in the morning on an empty stomach with about 5 g glutamine and 2 g BCAAs, then intervals when training in the evening, and I would only do whey protein (plus glutamine) after training, no carbs for about 1 - 1.5 hours till I got home and cooked!

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm

I also found in another article that this will only work till about 45, and that GH does not decrease until 25.

Man, can't wait to get back on the diet again!

BEEFCAKE!!!!!!

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Originally Posted by sensamilia

anyone heard of thisstuff called growthflexV ? google it up and read about it, it comes with 100% money back garantee. Supposudly its better than the injectable GH cause this stuff makes u release ur own and in huge amounts. Like ppl growing up to 3 inches in 4 months.

The site says to avoid lifting heavy weights.

i guess i wont give you any of the to young stuff,but this stuff is a bunch of crap.the only formulas that work are the hugely expensive injections.
some comp.sell l glutamine as a growth hormone as it is supposed to release your bodys growth hormone.it does to some extent but you prob. wont notice it
its a waste of money.