Vpx's New Meltdown...

camarosuper6 · 11-11-2007, 03:27 PM

Interesting.

Im starting to take a look at the new wave of supplements....this is appealing.

**Mudge** · 11-11-2007, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Prince

the only product I have used of VPX is Redline and it works great, I just ordered their Zero Impact bars, hoping they taste good and don't give me upset stomach and gas like many bars do.

I tried the liquid Redline in the blue bottle (no carb I guess) and unfortunately got nothing from it. Sure was tasty though.

gopro · 11-12-2007, 01:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Triple Threat

What would be a normal dosing? Is this something that should be taken every day or can days be skipped?

You CAN skip days, but for the best fat burning effect, I would take it daily. Dosing will be very individual, with some needing only 1 capsule twice per day, and others needing 2-3 twice per day. Best to start low and work your way up.

gopro · 11-12-2007, 01:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Mudge

I tried the liquid Redline in the blue bottle (no carb I guess) and unfortunately got nothing from it. Sure was tasty though.

Wow, that is rare! Most people complain that it OVERstimulates them!

Lukas1878 · 11-12-2007, 01:05 PM

Very useful information,thx guys

gopro · 11-12-2007, 03:51 PM

I just completed my 6th and final week on Meltdown, and now I will take a break and see how my body reacts.

My opinion of the product stands...it is fantastic!

My bodyfat dropped from 8.3% to 6.2% over the 6 weeks with no change in diet/training/cardio. I cannot wait to see what it does along with a "cutting" diet.

I was most impressed with the mood enhancing effects though. Those little caps just made me feel happy and productive all day long. Today is my first day off of them, and while I feel fine, I do miss the extra focus and clarity that Meltdown induces.

I believe that the fat burning effects will be even more dramatic for those with higher starting bodyfat %'s and also when a low carb, sub-maintenance diet is utilized (as carbs tend to blunt the effects of the compounds in Meltdown).

I will continue to post more feedback and results as I get them, as now I have a couple more clients starting on the product.

**Prince** · 11-12-2007, 04:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gopro

My bodyfat dropped from 8.3% to 6.2% over the 6 weeks with no change in diet/training/cardio. I cannot wait to see what it does along with a "cutting" diet.

what method are you testing your bf% that you could narrow it down as accurately as .1%?

gopro · 11-13-2007, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Prince

what method are you testing your bf% that you could narrow it down as accurately as .1%?

9 point calipers and then digital calipers.

gopro · 12-02-2007, 01:28 PM

I just received the following feedback on Meltdown. It is quite interesting, and moves off into other areas aside from what we have been discussing...

"I took Meltdown before a meeting and for 2.5 hours the entire back of my shirt was wet with sweat in a 72 degree, adequately air conditioned conference room! Meltdown is more thermogenic than any other "product" I've ever taken. It gives me a killer, crystal clear, anxiety-free buzz with superb mental clarity. Lights were brighter and I was on top of my game as far as running mental circles around my business colleagues. Meltdown is for real and anybody who is in touch with, and attuned to their body will instantly know that Meltdown is a home run.

Not to get too personal (sorry, got to post this here, LOL) but I took Meltdown before sex and had the most powerful orgasm ever. I'm not going to lie; even if it didn't burn fat, I would still take Meltdown to enhance sex, mood and mental focus. Intense focus in the gym after working all day is another major plus!"

Gotta admit, I was quite taken back by the sex part of the feedback, but now I have to see for myself, LOL!

**Prince** · 12-02-2007, 01:51 PM

serious question: how would it stack up next to Clen?

soxmuscle · 12-02-2007, 02:09 PM

A Convenient mart down the road sells VPX Red Line in liquid form. I indulged a couple of times to see how good it was and I was very disappointed. I chugged the whole bottle which VPX says is the equivalent of 2 servings, and I didn't feel a damn thing.

I might even prefer Red Bull to it.

**nni** · 12-02-2007, 09:33 PM

any word on a writeup yet?

glennmo · 12-03-2007, 07:59 PM

Any date on availability ?

gopro · 12-04-2007, 12:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prince

serious question: how would it stack up next to Clen?

The original liquid clenbutrx? Hard to say as far as fat burning goes, as Meltdown is still too new. For me they seem to work about equally, but I still think that E/C/Y is still the best fat burning stack to date for most.

As far as crazy energy goes, most will "feel" Clenbutrx more, but the type of energy I get from MD is far more productive in my opinion. It is not a nervous energy, but more like pure focus and concentration for the task at hand.

Also, ephedra tends to make me irritable, while MD puts me in good spirits.

gopro · 12-04-2007, 12:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by soxmuscle

A Convenient mart down the road sells VPX Red Line in liquid form. I indulged a couple of times to see how good it was and I was very disappointed. I chugged the whole bottle which VPX says is the equivalent of 2 servings, and I didn't feel a damn thing.

I might even prefer Red Bull to it.

You are a rare case then. Most people find that an entire Redline makes them too stimulated...sometimes to the point of feeling sick. I cannot handle Redline, but have no problem drinking Red Bull at all.

gopro · 12-04-2007, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by nni

any word on a writeup yet?

I am not really sure what you are looking for. All of the ads for Meltdown are basically like articles with info on every ingredient. If you want info beyond what is being presented by VPX you will have to do your own research.

The ads (articles) that are appearing are basically pared down from hundreds of pages of journal research.

gopro · 12-04-2007, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by glennmo

Any date on availability ?

Mid to late December.

**nni** · 12-04-2007, 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gopro

I am not really sure what you are looking for. All of the ads for Meltdown are basically like articles with info on every ingredient. If you want info beyond what is being presented by VPX you will have to do your own research.

The ads (articles) that are appearing are basically pared down from hundreds of pages of journal research.

i was hoping for actual research. not just a product hype/push.

gopro · 12-04-2007, 01:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nni

i was hoping for actual research. not just a product hype/push.

The research is there if you want to take the time to look things up. VPX's ads are already 4 pages long, so they get in as much as they can in that space...science plus hype (just like any other company in this industry).

However, I respect your desire to read and learn more about each ingredient. I had the opportunity to read much of this material before getting involved with the Meltdown launch, and I was quite impressed...but not as impressed as when I used the stuff. Like I always say, research is wonderful, but until something proves it itself in the real world then words are rather useless.

**nni** · 12-04-2007, 03:36 PM

i have yet to see the ads, but i dont pick up magazines, so i will look for them. i will also look for research on the ingredients, but so far i found nothing, it seems there is a lot of "in house" research.

gopro · 12-04-2007, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by nni

i have yet to see the ads, but i dont pick up magazines, so i will look for them. i will also look for research on the ingredients, but so far i found nothing, it seems there is a lot of "in house" research.

There was plenty of in house and scientific research. Now the field research is going on and it is proving itself to users. This is what is MOST important.

**nni** · 12-04-2007, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by gopro

There was plenty of in house and scientific research. Now the field research is going on and it is proving itself to users. This is what is MOST important.

eh, i prefer studies, i have seen many products get great results that ended up being nothing more than placebo. ill continue looking, and ill try and get a magazine with the ad in it. like i said, a product with this many "catchy" products in it, raised my eyebrows, and i want to learn more about it.

workingatit43 · 12-04-2007, 08:00 PM

I have been following this thread pretty much the whole way through i am going to give the product a try and then i will make a judgement

gopro · 12-04-2007, 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by workingatit43

I have been following this thread pretty much the whole way through i am going to give the product a try and then i will make a judgement

That is the best thing you can do. Try it for yourself and see what it can do.

gopro · 12-04-2007, 11:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nni

eh, i prefer studies, i have seen many products get great results that ended up being nothing more than placebo. ill continue looking, and ill try and get a magazine with the ad in it. like i said, a product with this many "catchy" products in it, raised my eyebrows, and i want to learn more about it.

And I have seen many products with great research that do nothing when tested on athletes and bodybuilders in real world circumstances.

I should also mention that when I gave this product to my clients all I told them was that it possibly helped burn fat. They knew nothing of any other possible effects, yet the feedback was almost identical.

blueboy · 12-05-2007, 09:28 AM

Thanks for the info gopro. I know that it hasn't been that long since your cycle but I'm interested in hearing about the aftermath. After you have stopped taking this for a while, how are your energy levels? Are your appetite levels increased? How long do you have to wait in between cycles?

I would like to try this but I want to avoid putting myself in a situation where I am worse off than before I started and I have to rely on a supplement for the rest of my life to be happy, not starved, and have good energy levels naturally.

Thanks in advance for the feedback.

gopro · 12-05-2007, 03:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blueboy

Thanks for the info gopro. I know that it hasn't been that long since your cycle but I'm interested in hearing about the aftermath. After you have stopped taking this for a while, how are your energy levels? Are your appetite levels increased? How long do you have to wait in between cycles?

I would like to try this but I want to avoid putting myself in a situation where I am worse off than before I started and I have to rely on a supplement for the rest of my life to be happy, not starved, and have good energy levels naturally.

Thanks in advance for the feedback.

It has been about 4 weeks or so since I stopped Meltdown and so far I have not gained any of the lost fat back (diet/training/cardio has remained the same). My energy is just fine, but I don't have the same focused feeling I had while on it. This was expecially important for me if I train later in the day when my brain is looking to shut down, LOL. I also no longer have the happy/euphoric feeling that MD gave me, although I have had no problems with depression or anything negative like this since stopping. Appetite for carbs has come back somewhat, but I am able to keep that under control no matter what.

While I certainly MISS taking Meltdown, I do not feel like I "need" it. However, I AM looking forward to my next cycle in about 2 more weeks.

**nni** · 12-05-2007, 03:45 PM

the pea gives the euphoria.

**nni** · 12-05-2007, 03:53 PM

very interesting.

gopro · 12-05-2007, 04:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nni

the pea gives the euphoria.

That would be correct.

11-11-2007, 03:27 PM	#61
camarosuper6 Unstoppable Force Elite Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: California Posts: 3,415	Interesting. Im starting to take a look at the new wave of supplements....this is appealing. "Show me a beautiful woman, and I'll show you a guy tired of screwing her"

11-12-2007, 01:05 PM	#65
Lukas1878 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 22	Very useful information,thx guys screw you guys

11-12-2007, 03:51 PM	#66
gopro NGA/IFPA Pro Bodybuilder Elite Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: GLOBAL! Posts: 10,893	I just completed my 6th and final week on Meltdown, and now I will take a break and see how my body reacts. My opinion of the product stands...it is fantastic! My bodyfat dropped from 8.3% to 6.2% over the 6 weeks with no change in diet/training/cardio. I cannot wait to see what it does along with a "cutting" diet. I was most impressed with the mood enhancing effects though. Those little caps just made me feel happy and productive all day long. Today is my first day off of them, and while I feel fine, I do miss the extra focus and clarity that Meltdown induces. I believe that the fat burning effects will be even more dramatic for those with higher starting bodyfat %'s and also when a low carb, sub-maintenance diet is utilized (as carbs tend to blunt the effects of the compounds in Meltdown). I will continue to post more feedback and results as I get them, as now I have a couple more clients starting on the product. All American EFX Sponsored Pro Bodybuilder/Internet Marketing Manager P/RR/S DVD and E-Book now available! P/RR/S DVD http://www.home-gym.com/erbrporepras.html P/RR/S E-BOOK html www.X-traordinaryWorkouts.com Monthly columnist for Muscular Development and Ironman magazines. www.prrstraining.com Time to GROW Without Plateau! Personal Training Gopro is available for online personal training, dietary guidance, and contest prep coaching. Send me a PM or e-mail if interested. Thank you.

12-02-2007, 01:28 PM	#69
gopro NGA/IFPA Pro Bodybuilder Elite Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: GLOBAL! Posts: 10,893	I just received the following feedback on Meltdown. It is quite interesting, and moves off into other areas aside from what we have been discussing... "I took Meltdown before a meeting and for 2.5 hours the entire back of my shirt was wet with sweat in a 72 degree, adequately air conditioned conference room! Meltdown is more thermogenic than any other "product" I've ever taken. It gives me a killer, crystal clear, anxiety-free buzz with superb mental clarity. Lights were brighter and I was on top of my game as far as running mental circles around my business colleagues. Meltdown is for real and anybody who is in touch with, and attuned to their body will instantly know that Meltdown is a home run. Not to get too personal (sorry, got to post this here, LOL) but I took Meltdown before sex and had the most powerful orgasm ever. I'm not going to lie; even if it didn't burn fat, I would still take Meltdown to enhance sex, mood and mental focus. Intense focus in the gym after working all day is another major plus!" Gotta admit, I was quite taken back by the sex part of the feedback, but now I have to see for myself, LOL! All American EFX Sponsored Pro Bodybuilder/Internet Marketing Manager P/RR/S DVD and E-Book now available! P/RR/S DVD http://www.home-gym.com/erbrporepras.html P/RR/S E-BOOK html www.X-traordinaryWorkouts.com Monthly columnist for Muscular Development and Ironman magazines. www.prrstraining.com Time to GROW Without Plateau! Personal Training Gopro is available for online personal training, dietary guidance, and contest prep coaching. Send me a PM or e-mail if interested. Thank you.

12-02-2007, 01:51 PM	#70
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12-02-2007, 02:09 PM	#71
soxmuscle do work son Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: I will eat your face Posts: 10,045 Photos: 10	A Convenient mart down the road sells VPX Red Line in liquid form. I indulged a couple of times to see how good it was and I was very disappointed. I chugged the whole bottle which VPX says is the equivalent of 2 servings, and I didn't feel a damn thing. I might even prefer Red Bull to it. Age: 20 \| Height: 5'7" \| Weight: 150 lbs \| Penis: 12 inches

12-02-2007, 09:33 PM	#72
nni Driven Sports Moderator Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: . Posts: 1,666	any word on a writeup yet? www.getds.com www.drivensports.co.uk

12-03-2007, 07:59 PM	#73
glennmo Registered User Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 70	Any date on availability ?

12-04-2007, 03:36 PM	#80
nni Driven Sports Moderator Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: . Posts: 1,666	i have yet to see the ads, but i dont pick up magazines, so i will look for them. i will also look for research on the ingredients, but so far i found nothing, it seems there is a lot of "in house" research. www.getds.com www.drivensports.co.uk

12-04-2007, 08:00 PM	#83
workingatit43 Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Ma Posts: 1,708	I have been following this thread pretty much the whole way through i am going to give the product a try and then i will make a judgement

12-05-2007, 09:28 AM	#86
blueboy Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 60	Thanks for the info gopro. I know that it hasn't been that long since your cycle but I'm interested in hearing about the aftermath. After you have stopped taking this for a while, how are your energy levels? Are your appetite levels increased? How long do you have to wait in between cycles? I would like to try this but I want to avoid putting myself in a situation where I am worse off than before I started and I have to rely on a supplement for the rest of my life to be happy, not starved, and have good energy levels naturally. Thanks in advance for the feedback. Gettin' Better!

12-05-2007, 03:45 PM	#88
nni Driven Sports Moderator Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: . Posts: 1,666	the pea gives the euphoria. www.getds.com www.drivensports.co.uk

12-05-2007, 03:53 PM	#89
nni Driven Sports Moderator Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: . Posts: 1,666	very interesting. www.getds.com www.drivensports.co.uk

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