Vpx's New Meltdown...

workingatit43 · 12-06-2007, 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by gopro

And of course, I am NOT making any guarantees! I am only reporting on 2 things...my experience, and the experiences of those that have tested the product. As with any product, results will vary among individuals. That said, I DO feel that Meltdown will prove itself to be one of the better fat burners on the market, and perhaps the best mood elevator/focus enhancer.

Yes there are no guarantees on this earth there are bad supps out there for sure but also some good ones and in my case(and i suspect for others also)that alot of the good supps are being used by those through word of mouth and endorsments thats the risk we take when we are searching for bodybuilding bliss. But i respect everyone's opinion on this thread

gopro · 12-07-2007, 02:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by workingatit43

Yes there are no guarantees on this earth there are bad supps out there for sure but also some good ones and in my case(and i suspect for others also)that alot of the good supps are being used by those through word of mouth and endorsments thats the risk we take when we are searching for bodybuilding bliss. But i respect everyone's opinion on this thread

Your attitude is a good one

**dg806** · 12-09-2007, 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by PreMier

i dont want this to turn into a fucking piss match

I don't think anyone sees it that way, and it's good to have a good discussion on supps. But as for me, I have been very skeptical of all supplement companies since right before the PH ban. Misleading claims, and catchy marketing angles mislead 99% of consumers that aren't VERY knowledgeable. Left a bad taste in my mouth for most supps. Now with that said, If Gopro said it works, I certainly believe it. I am not a chemical scientist, so I can't say if the ingrediants should work, but for me, I would be wary of what the methyls would do over a long peiod.

NordicNacho · 12-10-2007, 12:00 PM

its out.

Meltdown Z-14 by VPX Discount Bodybuilding Supplements & Discount Nutritional Supplements Store

this looks nice too

gopro · 12-10-2007, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by NordicNacho

its out.

Meltdown Z-14 by VPX Discount Bodybuilding Supplements & Discount Nutritional Supplements Store

this looks nice too

I doubt they actually have it yet, but they may be taking pre-orders.

gopro · 12-10-2007, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by dg806

Now with that said, If Gopro said it works, I certainly believe it. I am not a chemical scientist, so I can't say if the ingrediants should work, but for me, I would be wary of what the methyls would do over a long peiod.

Thank you for your confidence in me my friend.

And as far as the methyl's go, although VPX has run blood tests on users of Meltdown on cycles of up to about 16 weeks (with no indications of harm), I still advise people to cycle this product for no longer than 8 weeks at a time. I just think that makes good sense.

X Ring · 12-11-2007, 10:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gopro

I doubt they actually have it yet, but they may be taking pre-orders

Quote:
Originally Posted by NordicNacho
its out.

Meltdown Z-14 by VPX Discount Bodybuilding Supplements & Discount Nutritional Supplements Store

this looks nice too

I doubt they actually have it yet, but they may be taking pre-orders..

DPS Nutrition has it for less (as they do for pretty much everything). Says it is out of stock which maybe the preordering

gopro · 12-11-2007, 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by X Ring

DPS Nutrition has it for less (as they do for pretty much everything). Says it is out of stock which maybe the preordering

The best price will be at bodybuilding.com, however.

zombul · 12-11-2007, 02:18 PM

We need an independent individual to try this product fairly and keep this thread updated to let the rest of us now how it is working.Any one???

X Ring · 12-11-2007, 04:56 PM

I'll do it if you all want to pay for it. I am in a "body transformation challenge" at work. Fools are all going to lose. Anyway I am looking at using this or redline or something to that tune for 4-6 weeks.

GoPro got any samples so I can start sooner than when it is in stock?

Also, simply as a point. DPS has redline cheaper than bodybuilding.com, DPS has meltdown listed at $35 for a 120 mL but bobybuidling.com doesnt have it listed yet. That said I dont know if shipping is free at bodybuilding.com or there are some discounts. Honestly the few $ difference really doesnt matter.

workingatit43 · 12-11-2007, 08:17 PM

I am going to purchase the product when it comes to Nutraplanet if no one has started to log it i will be happy to would rather purchase it myself so i would feel no pressure to log in a certain way if it works the log will show that if not it would reflect but either way that will be my results it could be different results for others as supps can work for some and not others

gopro · 12-11-2007, 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by zombul

We need an independent individual to try this product fairly and keep this thread updated to let the rest of us now how it is working.Any one???

I have another tester completing his 4 week cycle this Friday, and I will post his feedback this weekend.

soxmuscle · 12-12-2007, 02:36 AM

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Originally Posted by gopro

I have another tester completing his 4 week cycle this Friday, and I will post his feedback this weekend.

Sampling one of the guys or girls here for 4 weeks would be independent...

X Ring · 12-12-2007, 08:25 AM

I'm going to run it for a few weeks (regardless if someone wants to donate some or not

) and let you know what I see from it.

GoPro how much of this do I need for 4 weeks. I havent ever done a fat burner for more than 2 weeks and it wasnt recently so I dont have a tolerance/immunity where I may need higher dosages. I can't find anything that talks about dosage just that the bottles are 120 mL.

Do you have any more info on a release date? If it is going to be several weeks from now I am going to order some redline maybe.

Last question. How bad does this make you sweat when you are not working out? I am a financial planner and I dont need to be sweating my dress shirts out in meetings with my clients.

Thanks

Triple Threat · 12-12-2007, 11:19 AM

I'm tempted to try it, but not until the January time-frame.

gopro · 12-12-2007, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by soxmuscle

Sampling one of the guys or girls here for 4 weeks would be independent...

Yes, I understand, but I have only been given a certain amount of product to allocate to my clients. This way I can control the variables.

Hopefully once a few people here purchase the product they will post their findings and opinions....good or bad.

gopro · 12-12-2007, 11:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by X Ring

I'm going to run it for a few weeks (regardless if someone wants to donate some or not

) and let you know what I see from it.

GoPro how much of this do I need for 4 weeks. I havent ever done a fat burner for more than 2 weeks and it wasnt recently so I dont have a tolerance/immunity where I may need higher dosages. I can't find anything that talks about dosage just that the bottles are 120 mL.

Do you have any more info on a release date? If it is going to be several weeks from now I am going to order some redline maybe.

Last question. How bad does this make you sweat when you are not working out? I am a financial planner and I dont need to be sweating my dress shirts out in meetings with my clients.

Thanks

First, the product is not a liquid, so the listing of 120 ml is a mistake. They are liqui-gels, and probably will be in bottles of 120 caps.

For most men I would say an effective dose would be 2 caps two to three times per day (on an empty stomach). Bigger and/or more tolerant individuals might need a 3 cap dose (although everyone should start at the lower end).

As for the release date, I wish I could be 100% sure in saying that it should be in the next two weeks, however, I do know that VPX is having some trouble keeping up with demand, which could delay the release a bit more.

And, as to the sweating, I had one client who told me that this was a major problem for him. Most, however, find that the extra sweating occurs only during intense activity.

zombul · 12-12-2007, 04:53 PM

So we have volunteers, do a thread in the supp forum and log your results.I belive Gopro is telling the truth about his findings and is pushing this because he likes the product but a neutral individual who posted good or bad would seem like a solid indicator of the products effieciency.

soxmuscle · 12-12-2007, 05:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gopro

Yes, I understand, but I have only been given a certain amount of product to allocate to my clients. This way I can control the variables.

Hopefully once a few people here purchase the product they will post their findings and opinions....good or bad.

Got it

gopro · 12-12-2007, 09:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zombul

So we have volunteers, do a thread in the supp forum and log your results.I belive Gopro is telling the truth about his findings and is pushing this because he likes the product but a neutral individual who posted good or bad would seem like a solid indicator of the products effieciency.

Thank you for your confidence in me. I do believe that Meltdown will prove it self to be a solid product.

workingatit43 · 12-12-2007, 10:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gopro

Thank you for your confidence in me. I do believe that Meltdown will prove it self to be a solid product.

I am for sure going to give it a run thank you for this thread there was a ton of info good job

gopro · 12-13-2007, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by workingatit43

I am for sure going to give it a run thank you for this thread there was a ton of info good job

Once people start using it I will still be here to help answer questions about the product, so please do not hesitate to ask.

favreis#1 · 12-15-2007, 10:15 AM

why does bodybuilding.com say that this product is discontinued?

Bodybuilding.com - VPX Meltdown Z-14.

workingatit43 · 12-15-2007, 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by favreis#1

why does bodybuilding.com say that this product is discontinued?

Bodybuilding.com - VPX Meltdown Z-14.

Not the same product check the date says 2006 i do not think it is released yet

favreis#1 · 12-15-2007, 10:45 PM

Oh because on VPX's website in their new info its Meltdown Z-14. Same name. Maybe it was a different formula for the old one.

gopro · 12-16-2007, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by favreis#1

Oh because on VPX's website in their new info its Meltdown Z-14. Same name. Maybe it was a different formula for the old one.

The original Meltdown was a very different and much less powerful formula.

gopro · 12-16-2007, 10:25 PM

Ok, I promised you guys more feedback from one of my clients, and he finally sent it over to me. I wish it was a little more in depth, but I have to forgive him as I know he works like a million hours a week, LOL. Still, intriguing stuff...

"Before I rate Meltdown as you asked me to, I just want you to know that I only used one cap/3 X per day. As you know, I have a pretty severe anxiety/panic disorder and me and fat burners do not mix well. The feeling they generally give me can easily trigger my disease. Still, I was willing to give this a try in a small dose since you rated it so highly, and I trust your word. Remember, I could not even tolerate 1.5 cc of Clenbutrx when it was out!"

-Fat Burning Ability...9.5

"After 4 weeks at 3 caps per day I lost 4 lbs. I am sorry that I did not measure bodyfat %, but the mirror and the looseness of my pants showed me how much leaner I got. 4 lbs ain't much, but it certainly makes a difference!"

-Energy Enhancement...7

"Probably because of the low dose I did not notice much new energy. However, I DID have better workouts while on this stuff. Also, cardio seemed to go by faster."

-Mood Affects...8.5

"I liked the way Meltdown made me feel in general. Kind of an 'upbeat' feeling I suppose I'd call it."

-Appetite Suppressing Capability...8

"I think that after the first capsule of the day I has less of a desire for my breakfast, but after that I felt pretty normal. I CAN say that saying no to carbs was easier while on Meltdown, however."

-Side Effects...10+

"Finally a fat burner I can tolerate with no jitters, anxiety, nervousness or worries it will trigger a panic attack! This is the best part. I can actually use the stuff!"

workingatit43 · 12-16-2007, 10:45 PM

Can't buy it yet to close to the holidays but it is here

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favreis#1 · 12-16-2007, 11:14 PM

so what is the dosing suppose to be like? with 3 caps per serving and only 40 servings in a bottle it doesn't seem like it will last very long, especially if it is 3 servings a day.

workingatit43 · 12-17-2007, 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by favreis#1

so what is the dosing suppose to be like? with 3 caps per serving and only 40 servings in a bottle it doesn't seem like it will last very long, especially if it is 3 servings a day.

Dosing depends on the person start with 1 cap 3xday see how you react then you can up it from there you may need more than 1 bottle to do a 30 day cycle probally should not do more than 30 days till you take a break anyways. You can also ask gopro for more info on dosing

12-10-2007, 12:00 PM	#124
NordicNacho Registered User Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 2,425 Photos: 18	its out. Meltdown Z-14 by VPX Discount Bodybuilding Supplements & Discount Nutritional Supplements Store this looks nice too http://www.roqofthe80s.com/#

12-12-2007, 08:25 AM	#134
X Ring training to be Goku Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: New England Posts: 696	I'm going to run it for a few weeks (regardless if someone wants to donate some or not) and let you know what I see from it. GoPro how much of this do I need for 4 weeks. I havent ever done a fat burner for more than 2 weeks and it wasnt recently so I dont have a tolerance/immunity where I may need higher dosages. I can't find anything that talks about dosage just that the bottles are 120 mL. Do you have any more info on a release date? If it is going to be several weeks from now I am going to order some redline maybe. Last question. How bad does this make you sweat when you are not working out? I am a financial planner and I dont need to be sweating my dress shirts out in meetings with my clients. Thanks

12-16-2007, 10:25 PM	#147
gopro NGA/IFPA Pro Bodybuilder Elite Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: GLOBAL! Posts: 10,893	Ok, I promised you guys more feedback from one of my clients, and he finally sent it over to me. I wish it was a little more in depth, but I have to forgive him as I know he works like a million hours a week, LOL. Still, intriguing stuff... "Before I rate Meltdown as you asked me to, I just want you to know that I only used one cap/3 X per day. As you know, I have a pretty severe anxiety/panic disorder and me and fat burners do not mix well. The feeling they generally give me can easily trigger my disease. Still, I was willing to give this a try in a small dose since you rated it so highly, and I trust your word. Remember, I could not even tolerate 1.5 cc of Clenbutrx when it was out!" -Fat Burning Ability...9.5 "After 4 weeks at 3 caps per day I lost 4 lbs. I am sorry that I did not measure bodyfat %, but the mirror and the looseness of my pants showed me how much leaner I got. 4 lbs ain't much, but it certainly makes a difference!" -Energy Enhancement...7 "Probably because of the low dose I did not notice much new energy. However, I DID have better workouts while on this stuff. Also, cardio seemed to go by faster." -Mood Affects...8.5 "I liked the way Meltdown made me feel in general. Kind of an 'upbeat' feeling I suppose I'd call it." -Appetite Suppressing Capability...8 "I think that after the first capsule of the day I has less of a desire for my breakfast, but after that I felt pretty normal. I CAN say that saying no to carbs was easier while on Meltdown, however." -Side Effects...10+ "Finally a fat burner I can tolerate with no jitters, anxiety, nervousness or worries it will trigger a panic attack! This is the best part. I can actually use the stuff!" All American EFX Sponsored Pro Bodybuilder/Internet Marketing Manager P/RR/S DVD and E-Book now available! P/RR/S DVD http://www.home-gym.com/erbrporepras.html P/RR/S E-BOOK html www.X-traordinaryWorkouts.com Monthly columnist for Muscular Development and Ironman magazines. www.prrstraining.com Time to GROW Without Plateau! Personal Training Gopro is available for online personal training, dietary guidance, and contest prep coaching. Send me a PM or e-mail if interested. Thank you.

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12-11-2007, 02:18 PM	#129
zombul Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Power Rack Posts: 2,270	We need an independent individual to try this product fairly and keep this thread updated to let the rest of us now how it is working.Any one???

12-11-2007, 04:56 PM	#130
X Ring training to be Goku Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: New England Posts: 696	I'll do it if you all want to pay for it. I am in a "body transformation challenge" at work. Fools are all going to lose. Anyway I am looking at using this or redline or something to that tune for 4-6 weeks. GoPro got any samples so I can start sooner than when it is in stock? Also, simply as a point. DPS has redline cheaper than bodybuilding.com, DPS has meltdown listed at $35 for a 120 mL but bobybuidling.com doesnt have it listed yet. That said I dont know if shipping is free at bodybuilding.com or there are some discounts. Honestly the few $ difference really doesnt matter.

12-11-2007, 08:17 PM	#131
workingatit43 Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Ma Posts: 1,708	I am going to purchase the product when it comes to Nutraplanet if no one has started to log it i will be happy to would rather purchase it myself so i would feel no pressure to log in a certain way if it works the log will show that if not it would reflect but either way that will be my results it could be different results for others as supps can work for some and not others

12-12-2007, 11:19 AM	#135
Triple Threat End of the world Elite Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Lost Posts: 10,444 Photos: 6	I'm tempted to try it, but not until the January time-frame.

12-12-2007, 04:53 PM	#138
zombul Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Power Rack Posts: 2,270	So we have volunteers, do a thread in the supp forum and log your results.I belive Gopro is telling the truth about his findings and is pushing this because he likes the product but a neutral individual who posted good or bad would seem like a solid indicator of the products effieciency.

12-15-2007, 10:15 AM	#143
favreis#1 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 10	why does bodybuilding.com say that this product is discontinued? Bodybuilding.com - VPX Meltdown Z-14.

12-15-2007, 10:45 PM	#145
favreis#1 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 10	Oh because on VPX's website in their new info its Meltdown Z-14. Same name. Maybe it was a different formula for the old one.

12-16-2007, 10:45 PM	#148
workingatit43 Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Ma Posts: 1,708	Can't buy it yet to close to the holidays but it is here Meltdown Z-14 by VPX Discount Bodybuilding Supplements & Discount Nutritional Supplements Store

12-16-2007, 11:14 PM	#149
favreis#1 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 10	so what is the dosing suppose to be like? with 3 caps per serving and only 40 servings in a bottle it doesn't seem like it will last very long, especially if it is 3 servings a day.