Vpx's New Meltdown...

**gopro** · 12-17-2007, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by favreis#1

so what is the dosing suppose to be like? with 3 caps per serving and only 40 servings in a bottle it doesn't seem like it will last very long, especially if it is 3 servings a day.

I weigh about 235 lbs and used no more than 6 caps per day. So, a bottle would last 20 days for me. Some may only need 3-4 caps per day, while others could possibly need as much as 8-9.

juggernaut · 12-17-2007, 11:03 AM

how long before seeing any type of results? I have a contest in April and I'm looking for an extra edge.

**gopro** · 12-18-2007, 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by juggernaut

how long before seeing any type of results? I have a contest in April and I'm looking for an extra edge.

I would say that fat loss can be noted after about 2 weeks.

ALBOB · 12-18-2007, 12:20 PM

Got a couple of questions for you gopro. As you may remember, my gym is at home and I work out when I get home in the evening. I end up going to bed about three hours after working out. I know you mentioned not having problems getting to sleep yourself but, how long after taking MD do you hit the hay? If I take a dose right before my workout and end up wide awake all night that's just not a good situation. You know how much I need my beauty sleep.

Second, my wife has a ulcer type condition. (Married to me, imagine that.) She's been told by the doctor to limit caffeine as much as possible. How much caffeine is in MD?

juggernaut · 12-18-2007, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by gopro

I would say that fat loss can be noted after about 2 weeks.

interesting. And you said it would be on sale when?

juggernaut · 12-18-2007, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by ALBOB

Got a couple of questions for you gopro. As you may remember, my gym is at home and I work out when I get home in the evening. I end up going to bed about three hours after working out. I know you mentioned not having problems getting to sleep yourself but, how long after taking MD do you hit the hay? If I take a dose right before my workout and end up wide awake all night that's just not a good situation. You know how much I need my beauty sleep.

Second, my wife has a ulcer type condition. (Married to me, imagine that.) She's been told by the doctor to limit caffeine as much as possible. How much caffeine is in MD?

I wouldnt touch this stuff as it does have some caffeine in it. I just wouldnt chance it.

ALBOB · 12-18-2007, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by juggernaut

I wouldnt touch this stuff as it does have some caffeine in it. I just wouldnt chance it.

Yeah, that's the problem, name one EFFECTIVE fat burner that doesn't have caffeine in it.

juggernaut · 12-18-2007, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by ALBOB

Yeah, that's the problem, name one EFFECTIVE fat burner that doesn't have caffeine in it.

"Warp 9".

**gopro** · 12-18-2007, 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by ALBOB

Got a couple of questions for you gopro. As you may remember, my gym is at home and I work out when I get home in the evening. I end up going to bed about three hours after working out. I know you mentioned not having problems getting to sleep yourself but, how long after taking MD do you hit the hay? If I take a dose right before my workout and end up wide awake all night that's just not a good situation. You know how much I need my beauty sleep.

Second, my wife has a ulcer type condition. (Married to me, imagine that.) She's been told by the doctor to limit caffeine as much as possible. How much caffeine is in MD?

I am not sure of the exact amount, but I believe there is between 75-100 mg caffeine per capsule.

I think if you use Meltdown, then train, then go to sleep you will be ok. It seems the euphoric effect of MD sort of "wears out" from training. Almost like intense activity "burns it off."

**Prince** · 12-18-2007, 10:15 PM

it depends on how sensitive you are to caffeine, my wife cannot take any caffeine after around 1pm or she has problems sleeping, whereas I can take it at 6pm and sleep fine.

juggernaut · 12-19-2007, 04:59 AM

I'd be more concerned about the ulcer, hands down.

**gopro** · 12-19-2007, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by juggernaut

I'd be more concerned about the ulcer, hands down.

Would have to agree!

favreis#1 · 12-22-2007, 08:35 AM

In stock at Bodybuilding.com - VPX Meltdown - Z-14 IPHORIC On sale now! for $36.97. Might have to give this one a go after I finish the current fat-burner I'm using.

X Ring · 12-23-2007, 08:11 PM

Should I be taking this with creatine? If part of creatine is retaining water in the cells is it worth taking both at the same time or should I just run creatine for a while then when I want to lean out use this?

juggernaut · 12-23-2007, 08:57 PM

Use creatine all the time.

**gopro** · 12-24-2007, 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by X Ring

Should I be taking this with creatine? If part of creatine is retaining water in the cells is it worth taking both at the same time or should I just run creatine for a while then when I want to lean out use this?

There is no reason you cannot run creatine with a fat burner such as Meltdown.

**gopro** · 12-28-2007, 03:02 PM

Onto my second cycle of Meltdown. Will keep you all informed!

workingatit43 · 12-28-2007, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by gopro

Onto my second cycle of Meltdown. Will keep you all informed!

I will be following just got my Meltdown in mail today going to start tomorrow will start a new thread so it does not get all confusing

**gopro** · 12-30-2007, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by gopro

Onto my second cycle of Meltdown. Will keep you all informed!

Obviously I cannot report any "results" just yet, but I have to say that I LOVE the way this stuff makes me feel

workingatit43 · 12-30-2007, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by gopro

Obviously I cannot report any "results" just yet, but I have to say that I LOVE the way this stuff makes me feel

I have to agree on my 2nd day my mood is awesome

**gopro** · 12-31-2007, 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by workingatit43

I have to agree on my 2nd day my mood is awesome

Great to hear. I swear, even if the stuff did not burn fat I think I would take it just as a "happy pill," LOL!

**Prince** · 12-31-2007, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by gopro

Great to hear. I swear, even if the stuff did not burn fat I think I would take it just as a "happy pill," LOL!

Prozac works very well too, and it's only $4/bottle from Wal-Mart.

workingatit43 · 12-31-2007, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Prince

Prozac works very well too, and it's only $4/bottle from Wal-Mart.

Not proud to say i have been on Prozac and you would have to pay me to ever take it again here are some of the side affects and i got most of them

Prozac is associated with insomnia, restlessness, nausea, and tension headaches, which normally go away within one to two weeks from the time it was first taken. One possible Prozac side effect, which remains for the time it is taken, is its effect on your sex life. It often reduces desire and can delay or interfere with orgasm, in both women and men. Fatigue and memory loss are other possible problems. These side effects subside when you stop taking the drug.

**Prince** · 12-31-2007, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by workingatit43

Not proud to say i have been on Prozac and you would have to pay me to ever take it again here are some of the side affects and i got most of them

Prozac is associated with insomnia, restlessness, nausea, and tension headaches, which normally go away within one to two weeks from the time it was first taken. One possible Prozac side effect, which remains for the time it is taken, is its effect on your sex life. It often reduces desire and can delay or interfere with orgasm, in both women and men. Fatigue and memory loss are other possible problems. These side effects subside when you stop taking the drug.

I use it as well (20mg per day), it affects everyone differently as do all drugs, personally I have no side effects from it.

12-17-2007, 11:03 AM	#152
juggernaut hybrid of machine & skin Elite Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Mars Posts: 4,098 Photos: 2	how long before seeing any type of results? I have a contest in April and I'm looking for an extra edge.
	Eat well, train daily, die anyway.

12-18-2007, 12:20 PM	#154
ALBOB IDIOT SAVANT Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: An alternate reality. Posts: 10,089	Got a couple of questions for you gopro. As you may remember, my gym is at home and I work out when I get home in the evening. I end up going to bed about three hours after working out. I know you mentioned not having problems getting to sleep yourself but, how long after taking MD do you hit the hay? If I take a dose right before my workout and end up wide awake all night that's just not a good situation. You know how much I need my beauty sleep. Second, my wife has a ulcer type condition. (Married to me, imagine that.) She's been told by the doctor to limit caffeine as much as possible. How much caffeine is in MD?
	Rules? You mean we have RULES for that???

12-18-2007, 10:15 PM	#160
Prince the one & only Administrator Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Colorado Posts: 33,302 Blog Entries: 25 Photos: 313	it depends on how sensitive you are to caffeine, my wife cannot take any caffeine after around 1pm or she has problems sleeping, whereas I can take it at 6pm and sleep fine.
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12-19-2007, 04:59 AM	#161
juggernaut hybrid of machine & skin Elite Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Mars Posts: 4,098 Photos: 2	I'd be more concerned about the ulcer, hands down.
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12-22-2007, 08:35 AM	#163
favreis#1 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 9	In stock at Bodybuilding.com - VPX Meltdown - Z-14 IPHORIC On sale now! for $36.97. Might have to give this one a go after I finish the current fat-burner I'm using.
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12-23-2007, 08:11 PM	#164
X Ring training to be Goku Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: New England Posts: 696	Should I be taking this with creatine? If part of creatine is retaining water in the cells is it worth taking both at the same time or should I just run creatine for a while then when I want to lean out use this?

12-23-2007, 08:57 PM	#165
juggernaut hybrid of machine & skin Elite Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Mars Posts: 4,098 Photos: 2	Use creatine all the time.
	Eat well, train daily, die anyway.

12-28-2007, 03:02 PM	#167
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