Vpx's New Meltdown...

**gopro** · 01-03-2008, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by workingatit43

I feel for you it runs in my family also i was on Klonopin and Xanax for 15 years got off them in 1997 i thought i was going to die for 6 months i do not think i would survive having to detox from them again it was a nightmare

I have used each of those as well during some very rough periods in my life. It is so horrible to be out of control of your thoughts and feelings, and never know when an attack might be triggered. It is a very difficult position to be in because most people do not understand what you are going through. They will often tell you to fight it and be stronger, but they have NO CLUE.

jchappj · 01-03-2008, 11:47 AM

Hey do you guys know GNC is asking $64.99 for this?! They are such a fu^#&$* ripoff of a store!! OK, *rant over*

TaylorsNutrition · 01-03-2008, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by jchappj

Hey do you guys know GNC is asking $64.99 for this?! They are such a fu^#&$* ripoff of a store!! OK, *rant over*

The best part about that is we have GNC employee's that come and buy from our store. But GNC can price like that because there are so many people who just don't know any better. Maybe one day we can educate them all.

**gopro** · 01-03-2008, 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by jchappj

Hey do you guys know GNC is asking $64.99 for this?! They are such a fu^#&$* ripoff of a store!! OK, *rant over*

GNC =

workingatit43 · 01-03-2008, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by gopro

GNC =

I know it is would pretty hard to find out what GNC pays for the Meltdown the profit they make per bottle has got to be huge and it is sad i am sure they will sell plenty of it

yoxtheox · 01-04-2008, 09:06 AM

Here is a question? Is this stuff good for me??
Or will it slowly kill me......I dont want to be skinny and in a coffin cuz my heart exploded.

**gopro** · 01-04-2008, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by yoxtheox

Here is a question? Is this stuff good for me??
Or will it slowly kill me......I dont want to be skinny and in a coffin cuz my heart exploded.

A better question is: Is it SAFE for you?

The answer is: If you use it intelligently and are a healthy person with no pre-existing heart, liver, or cardiovascualar problems, then it should be quite safe.

workingatit43 · 01-04-2008, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by gopro

A better question is: Is it SAFE for you?

The answer is: If you use it intelligently and are a healthy person with no pre-existing heart, liver, or cardiovascualar problems, then it should be quite safe.

I agree it is safe as long as used right just do not have the "more is better" approach and you would be fine

glennmo · 01-07-2008, 02:15 PM

Thanx. 2 tid seems to be ok. I tried 3 tid and really got a headache . 2 seems to work.

**gopro** · 01-14-2008, 11:53 AM

This is a post made on my board about Meltdown. Thought I'd share it here...

"I just saw this post and wanted to add my input from Meltdown. I have started a cut as of 2 weeks ago and this stuff REALLY and I mean REALLY cuts down hunger. In fact, I have to REMIND myself to eat. No jitters and in two weeks I have seen a change already. Usually takes me 3-4 weeks to see changes on any cut. I do cardio 3-4x/wk in the morning all year but with these, I feel like I want to jump on that treadmill at 6am. Sick I know. Patience and diet is #1, but this stuff does nothing but help!!!"

**Pirate!** · 01-14-2008, 07:30 PM

I wish it had rasberry ketones. Any guesses as to how much caffeine is in it? I'd prefer no more than 200 mg. Considering trying it, although appetite isn't a big problem for me. I just don't want to be hooked on the caffeine rollercoster.

workingatit43 · 01-14-2008, 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Pirate!

I wish it had rasberry ketones. Any guesses as to how much caffeine is in it? I'd prefer no more than 200 mg. Considering trying it, although appetite isn't a big problem for me. I just don't want to be hooked on the caffeine rollercoster.

I am finding it not bad in that area and i am super sensitive to stims when i finish taking it i will update my log the couple of days after and let you know if i am suffering from a caffeine crash

**gopro** · 01-15-2008, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Pirate!

I wish it had rasberry ketones. Any guesses as to how much caffeine is in it? I'd prefer no more than 200 mg. Considering trying it, although appetite isn't a big problem for me. I just don't want to be hooked on the caffeine rollercoster.

About 75 mg of caffeine per cap, so it is not overwhelming.

X Ring · 01-18-2008, 09:20 AM

I went ahead and bought some of this (2 Bottles, I always buy more than I need). I just started it yesterday morning. I am going to take 1 cap 2 times/ day. So far I have taken 3 caps. I obviously havent seen any weight loss but I do have some sides.

Before I mention them I would like to preface this with I have never had any mental issues. I'm a pretty level headed guy. I am never all that pumped up or exceptionally down. Works out well for me as a personal financial planner, my clients like that. Also, I drink coffee, energy drinks, etc usually 1 16oz energy drink a day and 1-2 cups of coffee. I can handle caffeine. Although I have never used a fat burner or weight loss supplement

I was feeling a bit ampled up yesterday as I expected in taking this. took pill 1 at 7 am, pill two at 3:30 pm. I fell asleep last night without a problem but it was when I was sleeping that has me concerned. I by far, by multiples of 10 had the single most violent dream/nightmare I could imagine. I dont think of shit this messed up when I am awake and try to. Now if I dreamed I was Rambo kicking ass it would be cool. My dream was so F***ed up that I am afraid to tell my wife or anyone I work with. Usually in my dreams I cant scream, I can never hit anyone as hard enough to hurt them, I can't run fast, no one dies in a grusome manner.

I'm not going to go into detail here. I just want to know if anyone has had this happen from meltdown, other fat burners or other supplements. The extent of my supplement history is creatine, vitamins, protein, and ZMA back a few years ago. So nothing special, maybe people with more experience can chime in. I havent stopped taking it, so I'll see if it is temporary. I am really bothered by my dream last night to the point where co-workers are asking me if I am okay today and I was uncomfortable talking to my wife this morning.

workingatit43 · 01-18-2008, 09:47 AM

It very well maybe your body/mind is adjusting i would try it for a few more days it should subside besides if it is only dreams and no problems like that during waking hours it is not really a problem. I use to have very vivid and violent nightmares years ago on the smoking patches and it subsided.

I would say continue and if it becomes a real problem for you then stop but if it is only dreams i would say your fine i am about to end a cycle of this and the 1st week i had some sides that i did not like but it went away and i am very happy with the results

**nni** · 01-18-2008, 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by gopro

About 75 mg of caffeine per cap, so it is not overwhelming.

so that means there is no more than 75mg of methyl TTA in there?

**gopro** · 01-19-2008, 12:33 AM

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Originally Posted by nni

so that means there is no more than 75mg of methyl TTA in there?

Probably just a bit more than that per 3 capsules.

**nni** · 01-19-2008, 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by gopro

Probably just a bit more than that per 3 capsules.

cant be. per the labeling laws, the first listed ingredient has to be the highest. being as you said there were 75mg of caffeine, then there would have to be 75 or less of methyl tta. the math works out with the yerba mate and camp.

**gopro** · 01-20-2008, 12:31 AM

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Originally Posted by nni

cant be. per the labeling laws, the first listed ingredient has to be the highest. being as you said there were 75mg of caffeine, then there would have to be 75 or less of methyl tta. the math works out with the yerba mate and camp.

Yup, guess you are right. I never discussed with Jack (nor would he even tell me) the exact amount of every ingredient, except for the caffeine.

**gopro** · 01-21-2008, 11:26 AM

Feedback from an independent user on another forum:

Alright, I've been taking Meltdown going on 2 weeks. I'm currently taking 2 pills 3 times a day. I'm also dieting.

Effects
- I've noticed that I've lost weight while maintaining strength level
- My legs are more cut (what I noticed the most)
- Energy boost
- I've lost 3-5 pds since I started taking it
- As for the "bliss" it's a hit n miss. Sometimes I'll be in a better mood once I take it. Other times, I feel a calming effect.
- no jitters, focused energy
- Little to no appetite supression (but I'm always hungry so...)

Overall so far, I think this is a great product.

**Prince** · 01-21-2008, 07:12 PM

Eric, why are you promoting this product so heavily, honestly...

**Pirate!** · 01-21-2008, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by nni

cant be. per the labeling laws, the first listed ingredient has to be the highest. being as you said there were 75mg of caffeine, then there would have to be 75 or less of methyl tta. the math works out with the yerba mate and camp.

I understood Eric as saying ~75 mg of caff per cap and probably a little more than 75 mg MTTA per 3 caps.

Has anyone put forth any reason while methyl TTA would be more potent? What are standard doses of standard TTA?

**nni** · 01-21-2008, 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Pirate!

I understood Eric as saying ~75 mg of caff per cap and probably a little more than 75 mg MTTA per 3 caps.

Has anyone put forth any reason while methyl TTA would be more potent? What are standard doses of standard TTA?

ahhh, my mistake. one serving is three caps meaning around 225mg of caffeine leaving 92mg for the yerba, camp and mtta. so it could still be 75mg, but obviously less than 92.

no, i havent read anything that says methyl tta superior to tta or that a lower dosing is applicable.

regular tta hits the sweet spot around 2-3g.

**gopro** · 01-22-2008, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Prince

Eric, why are you promoting this product so heavily, honestly...

Like I stated in my opening post, I work as an independent contractor for several different companies, and as an independent contractor I am PAID to do whatever work I am contracted to do!! Yes, VPX pays me for my time.

However, like I also have stated...I don't care what I am offered...if a product does not work, I WILL NOT stand behind it...period. This is why I tested Meltdown on myself and 4 clients before accepting this promotion position with VPX. IF Meltdown did not prove itself to me, then I would not be doing this.

01-03-2008, 11:47 AM	#182
jchappj I Don't Feel Tardy! Elite Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 342 Photos: 1	Hey do you guys know GNC is asking $64.99 for this?! They are such a fu^#&$* ripoff of a store!! OK, rant over
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01-04-2008, 09:06 AM	#186
yoxtheox Registered User Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 25	Here is a question? Is this stuff good for me?? Or will it slowly kill me......I dont want to be skinny and in a coffin cuz my heart exploded.
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01-07-2008, 02:15 PM	#189
glennmo Registered User Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 26	Thanx. 2 tid seems to be ok. I tried 3 tid and really got a headache . 2 seems to work.
glennmo Registered User Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 26

01-14-2008, 11:53 AM	#190
gopro NGA/IFPA Pro Bodybuilder Moderator Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Ft. Lauderdale Florida Posts: 10,462	This is a post made on my board about Meltdown. Thought I'd share it here... "I just saw this post and wanted to add my input from Meltdown. I have started a cut as of 2 weeks ago and this stuff REALLY and I mean REALLY cuts down hunger. In fact, I have to REMIND myself to eat. No jitters and in two weeks I have seen a change already. Usually takes me 3-4 weeks to see changes on any cut. I do cardio 3-4x/wk in the morning all year but with these, I feel like I want to jump on that treadmill at 6am. Sick I know. Patience and diet is #1, but this stuff does nothing but help!!!"
	Monthly columnist for Muscular Development and Ironman magazines. VPX Sponsored Athlete/Board Rep www.prrstraining.com Time to GROW Without Plateau! Personal Training Gopro is available for online personal training, dietary guidance, and contest prep coaching. Send me a PM or e-mail if interested. Thank you.

01-21-2008, 11:26 AM	#200
gopro NGA/IFPA Pro Bodybuilder Moderator Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Ft. Lauderdale Florida Posts: 10,462	Feedback from an independent user on another forum: Alright, I've been taking Meltdown going on 2 weeks. I'm currently taking 2 pills 3 times a day. I'm also dieting. Effects - I've noticed that I've lost weight while maintaining strength level - My legs are more cut (what I noticed the most) - Energy boost - I've lost 3-5 pds since I started taking it - As for the "bliss" it's a hit n miss. Sometimes I'll be in a better mood once I take it. Other times, I feel a calming effect. - no jitters, focused energy - Little to no appetite supression (but I'm always hungry so...) Overall so far, I think this is a great product.
	Monthly columnist for Muscular Development and Ironman magazines. VPX Sponsored Athlete/Board Rep www.prrstraining.com Time to GROW Without Plateau! Personal Training Gopro is available for online personal training, dietary guidance, and contest prep coaching. Send me a PM or e-mail if interested. Thank you.

01-18-2008, 09:20 AM	#194
X Ring training to be Goku Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: New England Posts: 696	I went ahead and bought some of this (2 Bottles, I always buy more than I need). I just started it yesterday morning. I am going to take 1 cap 2 times/ day. So far I have taken 3 caps. I obviously havent seen any weight loss but I do have some sides. Before I mention them I would like to preface this with I have never had any mental issues. I'm a pretty level headed guy. I am never all that pumped up or exceptionally down. Works out well for me as a personal financial planner, my clients like that. Also, I drink coffee, energy drinks, etc usually 1 16oz energy drink a day and 1-2 cups of coffee. I can handle caffeine. Although I have never used a fat burner or weight loss supplement I was feeling a bit ampled up yesterday as I expected in taking this. took pill 1 at 7 am, pill two at 3:30 pm. I fell asleep last night without a problem but it was when I was sleeping that has me concerned. I by far, by multiples of 10 had the single most violent dream/nightmare I could imagine. I dont think of shit this messed up when I am awake and try to. Now if I dreamed I was Rambo kicking ass it would be cool. My dream was so F***ed up that I am afraid to tell my wife or anyone I work with. Usually in my dreams I cant scream, I can never hit anyone as hard enough to hurt them, I can't run fast, no one dies in a grusome manner. I'm not going to go into detail here. I just want to know if anyone has had this happen from meltdown, other fat burners or other supplements. The extent of my supplement history is creatine, vitamins, protein, and ZMA back a few years ago. So nothing special, maybe people with more experience can chime in. I havent stopped taking it, so I'll see if it is temporary. I am really bothered by my dream last night to the point where co-workers are asking me if I am okay today and I was uncomfortable talking to my wife this morning.

01-18-2008, 09:47 AM	#195
workingatit43 AI/Sbmuscle Rep Elite Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Ma Posts: 983	It very well maybe your body/mind is adjusting i would try it for a few more days it should subside besides if it is only dreams and no problems like that during waking hours it is not really a problem. I use to have very vivid and violent nightmares years ago on the smoking patches and it subsided. I would say continue and if it becomes a real problem for you then stop but if it is only dreams i would say your fine i am about to end a cycle of this and the 1st week i had some sides that i did not like but it went away and i am very happy with the results

01-21-2008, 07:12 PM	#201
Prince the one & only Administrator Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Colorado Posts: 33,195 Blog Entries: 25 Photos: 313	Eric, why are you promoting this product so heavily, honestly...
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