Vpx's New Meltdown...

**gopro** · 02-27-2008, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Marcus ATW

Thank You cause I was going to. I appreciate it.

You CAN utilize both by taking Redline only before workouts, and Meltdown at 1-2 other times per day...just never take both products at one time.

A few of my clients who workout in the morning take Redline beforehand, then take MD 1-2 more times during the day with doses spread apart by 5-6 hours.

**gopro** · 02-27-2008, 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by mcguin

I am very interested in using the meltdown. I had really good results with animal cuts last year and tried lipo 6 a few months ago but wasnt too impressed. I'm currently taking Retain2 as a leaning agent. Would it be safe to take meltdown on top of retain2? In general what sorts of supps should you stay away from if your taking a thermogenic??? thanks guys.

Retain 2 can be combined with Meltdown. Just do not combine MD with other caffeine, synephrine, ephedra or yohimbine containing products as that would cause too much CNS stimulation.

workingatit43 · 02-27-2008, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by gopro

Retain 2 can be combined with Meltdown. Just do not combine MD with other caffeine, synephrine, ephedra or yohimbine containing products as that would cause too much CNS stimulation.

Hmnn i leaned out well on Retain2 during my last pct and when i ran Meltdown i think next time i run Meltdown i will stack it with either Retain2 or Lean Xtreme sounds like a killer fat burning stack

mcguin · 02-27-2008, 04:54 PM

Im going on week 1 of using retain2...I think Monday I'll order some meltdown and start that as soon as I get it and stack it with the rest of the retain2...I haven't started doing my heavy cardio yet as I'm just coming off being sick plus its been a crazy week havent been to the gym...Monday though I'll start hardcore training and I've been on a very strict diet with 50%P/30%c/20%f...I already feel myself tightening up...cant wait to try the two products together, will let you know my results!

HOOPIE · 02-27-2008, 08:52 PM

I just started running meltdown for the last 7 weeks of my contest prep.

mcguin · 02-28-2008, 05:10 AM

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Originally Posted by HOOPIE

I just started running meltdown for the last 7 weeks of my contest prep.

and? how have the results been? what has your routine been like while on it?

HOOPIE · 02-28-2008, 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by mcguin

and? how have the results been? what has your routine been like while on it?

I just started running it 2 days ago. So results wise i have nothing to comment about. Now focus and energy is very nice, very smooth. No gitters with it at all which i like.

tomuchgear · 02-29-2008, 02:10 PM

ok my meltdown arrived today. i will start taking it tommorow would have started it today but the wife has it in her car. i will post my opinion of it after a while.

tomuchgear · 03-01-2008, 02:09 PM

first day on the meltdown i have taken two pills today. one when i woke up the one bout noon. as far as energy not bad. thermongenic effect very good. mood same as usual.

**gopro** · 03-03-2008, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by tomuchgear

first day on the meltdown i have taken two pills today. one when i woke up the one bout noon. as far as energy not bad. thermongenic effect very good. mood same as usual.

Keep me posted as you go along. Thank you!

tomuchgear · 03-03-2008, 10:40 AM

keeps good energy only thing i have noticed so far as far as sides. dont drink any caffine. i drank some of a energy drink got a upset stomach. other than that so far so good.

Marcus ATW · 03-03-2008, 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by gopro

You CAN utilize both by taking Redline only before workouts, and Meltdown at 1-2 other times per day...just never take both products at one time.

A few of my clients who workout in the morning take Redline beforehand, then take MD 1-2 more times during the day with doses spread apart by 5-6 hours.

Thank You for taking the time to let me know. I was going to ask you how to take them. I am expecting these products to arrive today. I will post my results. Thanks again for your time!!

zombul · 03-03-2008, 01:39 PM

I have ran this for about a week now at 1 cap 3 times daily.I am going to move up to 4-5 caps day but havn't formed an opinion yet but will soon.

HOOPIE · 03-03-2008, 07:32 PM

I really like the energy and focus i get from it during the day. Being on NO carbs can be a little tiring. Appetite is gone, i have to force myself to eat. One thing I notice is that its not a crazed shaking energy. Just feels very smooth.

workingatit43 · 03-03-2008, 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by HOOPIE

I really like the energy and focus i get from it during the day. Being on NO carbs can be a little tiring. Appetite is gone, i have to force myself to eat. One thing I notice is that its not a crazed shaking energy. Just feels very smooth.

That was my favorite thing about it the smooth energy

**gopro** · 03-04-2008, 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Marcus ATW

Thank You for taking the time to let me know. I was going to ask you how to take them. I am expecting these products to arrive today. I will post my results. Thanks again for your time!!

No problem at all my friend! It is my pleasure! If you have further questions, do not hesitate to ask me!

Marcus ATW · 03-04-2008, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by gopro

No problem at all my friend! It is my pleasure! If you have further questions, do not hesitate to ask me!

I just checked with mass nutrition my package will arrive tomorrow. I know the results will be great, every product from VPX is the purest quality. I cant wait to post my results.

**gopro** · 03-05-2008, 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Marcus ATW

I just checked with mass nutrition my package will arrive tomorrow. I know the results will be great, every product from VPX is the purest quality. I cant wait to post my results.

mcguin · 03-06-2008, 08:02 AM

ordered the meltdown, should have it in a couple days. Will start logging results as soon as I start, hopefully monday.

tomuchgear · 03-06-2008, 09:09 AM

going to start three pills today so far so good. i have noticed my mood seems to be happier than normal. also my mental focus is up. so far i am really liking this stuff.

Marcus ATW · 03-06-2008, 10:26 AM

I received great pricing on VPX Redline Liquid and Meltdown Z-14 from Mass Nutrition. I started Meltdown this morning and I could not be more pleased with this product. Meltdown does exactly what it claims to do it has increased my mental clarity and mood without feeling jittery. The boys from VPX have done it again another GREAT product.

MeatZatk · 03-06-2008, 01:24 PM

My order should arrive today or tomorrow, after reading all these reviews so far I'm getting pretty excited to get started!

workingatit43 · 03-06-2008, 06:38 PM

I am glad it seems everyone is getting the same basic results as i did it is a very good product

HOOPIE · 03-06-2008, 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by workingatit43

I am glad it seems everyone is getting the same basic results as i did it is a very good product

Its a pretty good supplement in my book. I currently running Dave Polumbo's diet for my contest prep and this supp. seems to give it that extra boost. My energy is up more. Running zero carbs for a whole week until Saturday at dinner can get tough on the energy. Meltdown gives me that extra boost along with having to force my self to eat....

**gopro** · 03-07-2008, 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by HOOPIE

Its a pretty good supplement in my book. I currently running Dave Polumbo's diet for my contest prep and this supp. seems to give it that extra boost. My energy is up more. Running zero carbs for a whole week until Saturday at dinner can get tough on the energy. Meltdown gives me that extra boost along with having to force my self to eat....

Meltdown works VERY well in conjunction with Dave's diet.

workingatit43 · 03-07-2008, 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by gopro

Meltdown works VERY well in conjunction with Dave's diet.

Hey gopro is the avatar a picture of your abs? If so great work those are some killer abs

**gopro** · 03-07-2008, 04:05 PM

VPX Sports Meltdown®: Impact on blood norepinephrine and lipolysis by
Richard J. Bloomer

Introduction

The quest for a leaner physique is a path sought by many, from average fitness enthusiasts to advanced bodybuilders. To this end, multiple products currently exist within the category of lipolytic (i.e., fat loss) agents, with several new products emerging each year. While it is clear that there are few human clinical trials in which the actual product of sale has been used within the research design, there does at least exist some scientific rationale behind the blend of ingredients found in some of these preparations. A prime example is the lipolytic agent Meltdown®, which has been recently developed by VPX Sports. Unsolicited consumer testimonials surrounding this product have been quite positive, and anecdotal evidence indicates that Meltdown® is a real contender in this class, possibly in line to dominate in the near future.

The purpose of this article is to provide a brief overview of the process of fat mobilization and “burning”, in addition to providing a look into the science related to the proposed benefits of Meltdown®. An attempt has been made to limit scientific jargon and detailed scientific discussion, in order to provide a more reader-friendly article. Individuals interested in a more detailed discussion of the scientific rationale and process of engineering behind Meltdown® are referred to the article on this topic written by Jack Owoc, available at VPX Sports.

Lipolysis 101

Although the goal of fat loss may appear rather simplistic, the actual process of fat metabolism is quite complex. In fact, in most graduate level textbooks focused on metabolism, the process is separated into seven distinct steps, as listed below and shown in Figure 1.
1.Mobilization of fatty acids from storage form (triglycerides) from within adipocytes (i.e., fat cells)
2.Transport of fatty acids to the target tissue (via carrier protein albumin)
3.Uptake of fatty acids into the cell (via sarcolemma fatty acid binding protein and fatty acid transporter)
4.Activation of fatty acids (via ATP dependent process)
5.Translocation of activated fatty acids into inner mitochondrial matrix (via carnitine dependent enzymes: carnitine acyl tranferase 1 and 2—CAT1 and CAT2 [for long chain fatty acids])
6.Beta oxidation (the actual process of degrading fatty acids into products which will eventually be used for energy production—acetyl CoA and the electron carriers NADH and FADH2)
7.Krebs/Citric acid cycle/tricarboxylic acid cycle and electron transport chain (where ATP energy is actually produced from products created within beta oxidation—hence fat is now available as energy and r

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02-27-2008, 04:54 PM	#244
mcguin Bang, Bang, Skeet, Skeet! Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: US Posts: 100	Im going on week 1 of using retain2...I think Monday I'll order some meltdown and start that as soon as I get it and stack it with the rest of the retain2...I haven't started doing my heavy cardio yet as I'm just coming off being sick plus its been a crazy week havent been to the gym...Monday though I'll start hardcore training and I've been on a very strict diet with 50%P/30%c/20%f...I already feel myself tightening up...cant wait to try the two products together, will let you know my results!

02-27-2008, 08:52 PM	#245
HOOPIE Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: West Virginia Posts: 32	I just started running meltdown for the last 7 weeks of my contest prep.

02-29-2008, 02:10 PM	#248
tomuchgear gettin there Elite Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: ohio Posts: 1,471 Photos: 2	ok my meltdown arrived today. i will start taking it tommorow would have started it today but the wife has it in her car. i will post my opinion of it after a while.

03-01-2008, 02:09 PM	#249
tomuchgear gettin there Elite Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: ohio Posts: 1,471 Photos: 2	first day on the meltdown i have taken two pills today. one when i woke up the one bout noon. as far as energy not bad. thermongenic effect very good. mood same as usual.

03-03-2008, 10:40 AM	#251
tomuchgear gettin there Elite Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: ohio Posts: 1,471 Photos: 2	keeps good energy only thing i have noticed so far as far as sides. dont drink any caffine. i drank some of a energy drink got a upset stomach. other than that so far so good.

03-03-2008, 01:39 PM	#253
zombul SB MUSCLE REP Elite Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Power Rack Posts: 1,710	I have ran this for about a week now at 1 cap 3 times daily.I am going to move up to 4-5 caps day but havn't formed an opinion yet but will soon.

03-03-2008, 07:32 PM	#254
HOOPIE Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: West Virginia Posts: 32	I really like the energy and focus i get from it during the day. Being on NO carbs can be a little tiring. Appetite is gone, i have to force myself to eat. One thing I notice is that its not a crazed shaking energy. Just feels very smooth.

03-06-2008, 08:02 AM	#259
mcguin Bang, Bang, Skeet, Skeet! Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: US Posts: 100	ordered the meltdown, should have it in a couple days. Will start logging results as soon as I start, hopefully monday.

03-06-2008, 09:09 AM	#260
tomuchgear gettin there Elite Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: ohio Posts: 1,471 Photos: 2	going to start three pills today so far so good. i have noticed my mood seems to be happier than normal. also my mental focus is up. so far i am really liking this stuff.

03-06-2008, 10:26 AM	#261
Marcus ATW Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Pa Posts: 42	I received great pricing on VPX Redline Liquid and Meltdown Z-14 from Mass Nutrition. I started Meltdown this morning and I could not be more pleased with this product. Meltdown does exactly what it claims to do it has increased my mental clarity and mood without feeling jittery. The boys from VPX have done it again another GREAT product.

03-06-2008, 06:38 PM	#263
workingatit43 AI/Sbmuscle Rep Elite Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Ma Posts: 1,148	I am glad it seems everyone is getting the same basic results as i did it is a very good product