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NGA/IFPA Pro Bodybuilder
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Join Date: Jul 2001
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Vpx's New Meltdown...
BODYBUILDING SUPPLEMENTS High Quality Supplements For Bodybuilders and Athletes. www.ironmaglabs.com Hello everyone! Let me get straight to the point...
Several weeks ago VPX Sports asked me if I would be willing to test out a soon-to-be released fat burner called Meltdown (which has nothing in common with their old version). I was called into a meeting to discuss the technology behind the product and the results they had been getting thus far. The company CEO, Jack Owoc put about two years into this formula, which contains several ingedients that have never been available before in these forms. He asked that I use it personally as well as test it out with a few of my clients. I agreed, but told him that I would be 100% honest about the results and would not sugar coat or hype anything that did not produce what it is supposed to. I am still gathering some of the data from my clients, which I will post up here by tomorrow, but I can tell you that VPX has something special here. I have used every fat burner ever put out on the market, and this one has some unique properties that no other product has shown. In other words, this is not your typical fat burner. That said, I need you guys to know that CURRENTLY I am not an employee of VPX. I work independently with several supplement companies in different aspects, which yes, I get paid for. This could change, and if it does, I will certainly let you know. So, I am representing VPX's Meltdown product here specifically (not their entire line). I have seen that this is the real deal and that everything I was told it would do, it does. As a respected writer and trainer in this industry I can promise you that I would not stand behind a product unless I feel that it works (no matter what I am offered to do so). I will be here to answer questions about the product to the best of my ability and to help others get the most out of it when it becomes available to the public shortly. I will also post up more about it as I gather my info. Thank you for listening! |
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Monthly columnist for Muscular Development and Ironman magazines.
VPX Sponsored Athlete/Board Rep www.prrstraining.com Time to GROW Without Plateau! Personal Training Gopro is available for online personal training, dietary guidance, and contest prep coaching. Send me a PM or e-mail if interested. Thank you. |
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My Role Model
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Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Ontario, Canada
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So what is in it?
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Obstacles don't have to stop you. If you run into a wall, don't turn around and give up. Figure out how to climb it, go through it, or work around it.
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do work son
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Red Line in capsule form barely did anything for me, so I'm hesitant to shell out Cell Tech esque cash figures for a company by VPX. However, I'll take your word for it and might give it a go when it becomes available. I'll be staying tuned.
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Designer Supplements
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ingredients?
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NGA/IFPA Pro Bodybuilder
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Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: Ft. Lauderdale Florida
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Monthly columnist for Muscular Development and Ironman magazines.
VPX Sponsored Athlete/Board Rep www.prrstraining.com Time to GROW Without Plateau! Personal Training Gopro is available for online personal training, dietary guidance, and contest prep coaching. Send me a PM or e-mail if interested. Thank you. |
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NGA/IFPA Pro Bodybuilder
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Join Date: Jul 2001
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I agree...Redline caps are not even close to the liquid form. However, these caps are STRONG! That said, I am trying to convince VPX to release a liquid version as well (like the old Clenbutrx).
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Monthly columnist for Muscular Development and Ironman magazines.
VPX Sponsored Athlete/Board Rep www.prrstraining.com Time to GROW Without Plateau! Personal Training Gopro is available for online personal training, dietary guidance, and contest prep coaching. Send me a PM or e-mail if interested. Thank you. |
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Designer Supplements
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looks like 3 forms of yohimbe (Yohimbine HCl, 11-hydroxy Yohimbine, alpha-Yohimbine)
methyl synephrine caffeine 2 forms of PEA one a methyl (R-ß-M-PEA (R-ß-Methylphenylethylamine) and n-Methyl-ß-PEA (n-Methyl-ß-Phenylethylamine) methyl hordenine pure cAMP methyl TTA, and one other thing that i dont know what it is. so lots of methyls of common ingredients. |
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do work son
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VPX is dumb. If they sold the liquid form RedLine at a reasonable price (30 rack, $30 dollars) they'd have the highest selling product on the market.
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little guy with big hopes
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Illinois
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yeah i like the redline drink they currently have out, but its kind of pricey to me. if it was cheaper itd help. i would rather have a new version in liquid really
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happy sumo
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P-side Inc.
"the post-workout high is more profound than any drug-induced rush imaginable." -Dante B. |
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happy sumo
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P-side Inc.
"the post-workout high is more profound than any drug-induced rush imaginable." -Dante B. |
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NGA/IFPA Pro Bodybuilder
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Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: Ft. Lauderdale Florida
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I would like to talk about Meltdown using the following criteria on a scale of 1-10 as I see it thus far in regards to myself. As I gather data from my clients (and others), I will post that as well...
-Fat Burning Ability...9 -Energy Enhancement...8 -Mood Affects...10 -Appetite Suppressing Capability...9 -Side Effects...9 (meaning I had little if any) As far as fat burning goes I dropped from a measurement of 8.3% to 7% in 4 weeks with no change in diet, cardio, or training. I notice the greatest loss in my quads and waist, as I see greater separation between each muscle in my thigh and all of my pants are fitting more loosely. Meltdown is not being marketed as an "Energy Enhancer," as Redline has filled that position. However, that does not mean that MD will not give you more energy...it is just a different kind of energy. Instead of making you "bounce off the walls" it instead just increases your clarity, focus and drive to do more work. It makes you want to be more productive and allows for far better concentration. One employee at VPX actually mentioned to me that it helps him see more clearly and vividly (especially colors). More to come.... |
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Monthly columnist for Muscular Development and Ironman magazines.
VPX Sponsored Athlete/Board Rep www.prrstraining.com Time to GROW Without Plateau! Personal Training Gopro is available for online personal training, dietary guidance, and contest prep coaching. Send me a PM or e-mail if interested. Thank you. |
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Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: Ft. Lauderdale Florida
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Along with MT and BSN, VPX is the biggest player in the industry! I was incredibly impressed with what they have done since I left them in 2005. |
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Monthly columnist for Muscular Development and Ironman magazines.
VPX Sponsored Athlete/Board Rep www.prrstraining.com Time to GROW Without Plateau! Personal Training Gopro is available for online personal training, dietary guidance, and contest prep coaching. Send me a PM or e-mail if interested. Thank you. |
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Designer Supplements
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honestly my immediate thought was its a mishmash of ingredients from other products like avant's HEAT, DS' basic cuts and melting point just changed to methyls. i dont know that making them methylated will make it that much better, so i will reserve judgement to see if any studies or paperwork is provided. but methyl TTA, i mean TTA is a product that some people get severe cramps from, so if you are methylating it which in theory makes it effects greater (which i doubt) then that would make the sides greater. i dont know, more question marks then exclamation points.
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happy sumo
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i was thinking the same thing after reading ingredients/what you wrote. not that the product wont be good, but it wont be anything thats revolutionary, because there are similar ones on the market.
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P-side Inc.
"the post-workout high is more profound than any drug-induced rush imaginable." -Dante B. |
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My Role Model
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Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Ontario, Canada
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Sulfur-substituted and alpha-methylated fatty acids as peroxisome proliferator-activated receptor activators.Larsen LN, Granlund L, Holmeide AK, Skattebøl L, Nebb HI, Bremer J.
Institute of Basic Medical Sciences, Department of Biochemistry, University of Oslo, Norway. l.n.larsen@medisin.uio.no FA with varying chain lengths and an alpha-methyl group and/or a sulfur in the beta-position were tested as peroxisome proliferator-activated receptor (PPAR)alpha, -delta(beta), and -gamma ligands by transient transfection in COS-1 cells using chimeric receptor expression plasmids, containing cDNAs encoding the ligand-binding domain of PPARalpha, -delta, and -gamma. For PPARalpha, an increasing activation was found with increasing chain length of the sulfur-substituted FA up to C14-S acetic acid (tetradecylthioacetic acid = TTA). The derivatives were poor, and nonsignificant, activators of PPARdelta. For PPARgamma, activation increased with increasing chain length up to C16-S acetic acid. A methyl group was introduced in the alpha-position of palmitic acid, TTA, EPA, DHA, cis9,trans11 CLA, and trans10,cis12 CLA. An increased activation of PPARalpha was obtained for the alpha-methyl derivatives compared with the unmethylated FA. This increase also resulted in increased expression of the two PPARalpha target genes acyl-CoA oxidase and liver FA-binding protein for alpha-methyl TTA, alpha-methyl EPA, and alpha-methyl DHA. Decreased or altered metabolism of these derivatives in the cells cannot be excluded. In conclusion, saturated FA with sulfur in the beta-position and increasing carbon chain length from C9-S acetic acid to C14-S acetic acid have increasing effects as activators of PPARalpha and -gamma in transfection assays. Furthermore, alpha-methyl FA derivatives of a saturated natural FA (palmitic acid), a sulfur-substituted FA (TTA), and PUFA (EPA, DHA, c9,t11 CLA, and t10,c12 CLA) are stronger PPARalpha activators than the unmethylated compounds. |
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Obstacles don't have to stop you. If you run into a wall, don't turn around and give up. Figure out how to climb it, go through it, or work around it.
Michael Jordan |
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NGA/IFPA Pro Bodybuilder
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Join Date: Jul 2001
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Hey, but I expected some of you to be hesitant, or even hateful of anything from VPX...it is nothing new. However, all you have to do is try the stuff and you will know it works. If it didn't, I would not be doing this for them. I could easily spend my time doing other things that would make me more money than they are paying me, LOL. Anyway, I will have more on MD later. |
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Monthly columnist for Muscular Development and Ironman magazines.
VPX Sponsored Athlete/Board Rep www.prrstraining.com Time to GROW Without Plateau! Personal Training Gopro is available for online personal training, dietary guidance, and contest prep coaching. Send me a PM or e-mail if interested. Thank you. |
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My Role Model
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Get me a sample and I will try it
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Obstacles don't have to stop you. If you run into a wall, don't turn around and give up. Figure out how to climb it, go through it, or work around it.
Michael Jordan |
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NGA/IFPA Pro Bodybuilder
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Join Date: Jul 2001
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There are products with some "similar" looking ingredients, but they are nothing like this one....trust me.
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Monthly columnist for Muscular Development and Ironman magazines.
VPX Sponsored Athlete/Board Rep www.prrstraining.com Time to GROW Without Plateau! Personal Training Gopro is available for online personal training, dietary guidance, and contest prep coaching. Send me a PM or e-mail if interested. Thank you. |
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happy sumo
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do work son
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Again, I think they're foolish not to sell their products at a more reasonable price, perhaps dumb wasn't the right word. |
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NGA/IFPA Pro Bodybuilder
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Understood. And I am not here to do anything but talk about the product. I am not representing VPX as a whole, but simply Meltdown. So far I am very impressed...impressed with the formula, the research they have put in, the extent they have tested and retested, and with the results I have so far seen with the product. |
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Monthly columnist for Muscular Development and Ironman magazines.
VPX Sponsored Athlete/Board Rep www.prrstraining.com Time to GROW Without Plateau! Personal Training Gopro is available for online personal training, dietary guidance, and contest prep coaching. Send me a PM or e-mail if interested. Thank you. |
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Monthly columnist for Muscular Development and Ironman magazines. VPX Sponsored Athlete/Board Rep www.prrstraining.com Time to GROW Without Plateau! Personal Training |