Green tea extract, caffeine, and carnitine

Perk1975 · 10-27-2007, 06:17 PM

In the Nov. issue of M&F I was reading an article 'The "Do Not Do" List: GETTING LEAN' pg 138

It's basically saying if I am not taking the following supps it will result in a downshift in my progress:

200-400 mg of caffeine with breakfast
200-400 mg of caffeine 1-2 hrs pre-wo

500 mg green tea extract (three times daily) including one serving before wo

1-2 grams carnitine (three times daily) including one serving before and one serving immediately after wo.

Along with hard training and sound dieting I take:

5g creatine mono immediately after wo

2-3 whey protein mixed with water with glutamine and basic bcaa included (36g of whey protein per serving) , pre and after wo

multi-vitamin

( Is it worth adding the questioned supps to this list at the recomended dosages is the question ????)

I am 32 yrs young, 5'11, 201 lbs. with 19% bf

Basically my goals are to Gain Mass while losing Body Fat

Thanks in advance for input

Perk1975 · 10-27-2007, 06:25 PM

The claimed benefits of the supps are as follows:

Caffeine binds to fat cells to enhance fat-burning during exercise

Green Tea prevents the breakdown of the metabolism- regulating neurotransmitter norepinephrine (whatever that is?)

Carnitine helps transport fat into the mitochondria of cells, where they're burned for energy

**IainDaniel** · 10-28-2007, 08:17 AM

It isn't necessary. I think a clean diet will help achieve success better then any supp. Especially when claims come from a magazine, who usually have some type of sponsor paying for those articles.

However, I do like GTE and I would switch Caratine to Alcar.

AKIRA · 10-28-2007, 10:49 AM

Ive been taking Carnitine and have seen decent results with no changes in diet, but what is Alcar?

Perk1975 · 10-28-2007, 10:57 AM

found some info on your suggested supp here. ACETYL-L-CARNITINE (ALCAR)

thinking about trying it, as well as the GTE.

Thanks for the input

AKIRA · 10-28-2007, 08:04 PM

Oh. Hah, ok I got the correct stuff.

**Prince** · 10-28-2007, 08:09 PM

IronMagLabs Green Tea - 95% Extract

Perk1975 · 10-29-2007, 11:11 AM

So I take it Prince recommends the GTE. What about the Alcar?

my wife found me some GTE at Costco.

TruNature Green Tea Standardized Extract

Green Tea 600mg
EGCG 300 mg Epigallocatechin gallate - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Caffeine 42 mg

Started taking them yesterday, we'll see how they work. Pretty affordable, 320 softgells under $20.

Gonna shop around for the Alcar today.

Thanks for the feedback

10-27-2007, 06:17 PM	#1
Perk1975 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: san diego ca Posts: 23	Green tea extract, caffeine, and carnitine In the Nov. issue of M&F I was reading an article 'The "Do Not Do" List: GETTING LEAN' pg 138 It's basically saying if I am not taking the following supps it will result in a downshift in my progress: 200-400 mg of caffeine with breakfast 200-400 mg of caffeine 1-2 hrs pre-wo 500 mg green tea extract (three times daily) including one serving before wo 1-2 grams carnitine (three times daily) including one serving before and one serving immediately after wo. Along with hard training and sound dieting I take: 5g creatine mono immediately after wo 2-3 whey protein mixed with water with glutamine and basic bcaa included (36g of whey protein per serving) , pre and after wo multi-vitamin ( Is it worth adding the questioned supps to this list at the recomended dosages is the question ????) I am 32 yrs young, 5'11, 201 lbs. with 19% bf Basically my goals are to Gain Mass while losing Body Fat Thanks in advance for input

10-28-2007, 08:17 AM	#3
IainDaniel My Role Model Moderator Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 15,945	It isn't necessary. I think a clean diet will help achieve success better then any supp. Especially when claims come from a magazine, who usually have some type of sponsor paying for those articles. However, I do like GTE and I would switch Caratine to Alcar.
	Obstacles don't have to stop you. If you run into a wall, don't turn around and give up. Figure out how to climb it, go through it, or work around it. Michael Jordan

10-28-2007, 10:49 AM	#4
AKIRA I am Rollo Tomassee.. Elite Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Outside the box Posts: 7,925 Photos: 3	Ive been taking Carnitine and have seen decent results with no changes in diet, but what is Alcar?
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10-28-2007, 10:57 AM	#5
Perk1975 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: san diego ca Posts: 23	alcar found some info on your suggested supp here. ACETYL-L-CARNITINE (ALCAR) thinking about trying it, as well as the GTE. Thanks for the input

10-28-2007, 08:04 PM	#6
AKIRA I am Rollo Tomassee.. Elite Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Outside the box Posts: 7,925 Photos: 3	Oh. Hah, ok I got the correct stuff.
	6' 209lbs (8/16) Bench 365 (12/3) Weighted Pullups 80lbs 3x3 (3/19) Squat 370 Deadlift after herniation 385lbs 3x3 (3/17) NASM certified 2/06 Journal

10-27-2007, 06:25 PM	#2
Perk1975 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: san diego ca Posts: 23	The claimed benefits of the supps are as follows: Caffeine binds to fat cells to enhance fat-burning during exercise Green Tea prevents the breakdown of the metabolism- regulating neurotransmitter norepinephrine (whatever that is?) Carnitine helps transport fat into the mitochondria of cells, where they're burned for energy

10-28-2007, 08:09 PM	#7
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10-29-2007, 11:11 AM	#8
Perk1975 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: san diego ca Posts: 23	So I take it Prince recommends the GTE. What about the Alcar? my wife found me some GTE at Costco. TruNature Green Tea Standardized Extract Green Tea 600mg EGCG 300 mg Epigallocatechin gallate - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Caffeine 42 mg Started taking them yesterday, we'll see how they work. Pretty affordable, 320 softgells under $20. Gonna shop around for the Alcar today. Thanks for the feedback

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