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    Supplement Life Cycle

    I am new to the forum, but I have read extensively. I wanted to clarify the life cycle of the prohormones....

    1. Company A creates a prohormone, Product A that contains a legit and benificailly compound.
    2. Comapny A markets it.
    3. The body building comminuty figures out that it is legit.
    4. Sales increase.
    5. The goverment investigates Product A.
    6. Before being shut down, Company A sells as much Product A as they can to distrubutors.
    7. Government shuts down Product A.
    8. Distributors continue to sell Product A until they are out.
    9. Company B knocks off the name Product A with a crappy substitute.
    10. The body building community figures out Company B's product is not legit.

    Am I missing something?



    So my question is who are the Dirstibutors that bought up all of the pre-banned stuff?

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    Nope welcome to Capitalism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IainDaniel View Post
    Nope welcome to Capitalism.
    I love capitalism, but what do you mean by "Nope"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by all4show View Post
    I am new to the forum, but I have read extensively. I wanted to clarify the life cycle of the prohormones....

    1. Company A creates a prohormone, Product A that contains a legit and benificailly compound.
    2. Comapny A markets it.
    3. The body building comminuty figures out that it is legit.
    4. Sales increase.
    5. The goverment investigates Product A.
    6. Before being shut down, Company A sells as much Product A as they can to distrubutors.
    7. Government shuts down Product A.
    8. Distributors continue to sell Product A until they are out.
    9. Company B knocks off the name Product A with a crappy substitute.
    10. The body building community figures out Company B's product is not legit.

    Am I missing something?



    So my question is who are the Dirstibutors that bought up all of the pre-banned stuff?

    you are off. 9 happens around 2,3 and 4, and its plural. and if we are talking ban, there was only one, the new "bans" were only to certain companies, and not product bans. also #10 doesnt always happen.

    for your question, who knows, overseas companies, stores, who knows, who cares.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nni View Post
    you are off. 9 happens around 2,3 and 4, and its plural. and if we are talking ban, there was only one, the new "bans" were only to certain companies, and not product bans. also #10 doesnt always happen.

    for your question, who knows, overseas companies, stores, who knows, who cares.
    The reason I care is that marketers are copying the names but selling junk. It takes real knowledge and experience to know that SuperDrol, Halodrol, M1T... works when made by a certain company, but it is rip off if made or distributed by another. Or even in the case of Halodrol, the original tabs are great, but the liquid gel made by the same company later is crap?

    I think you could eliminate a large portion of the threads with a resource guide of of beneficial prohormones and where to buy them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by all4show View Post
    The reason I care is that marketers are copying the names but selling junk. It takes real knowledge and experience to know that SuperDrol, Halodrol, M1T... works when made by a certain company, but it is rip off if made or distributed by another. Or even in the case of Halodrol, the original tabs are great, but the liquid gel made by the same company later is crap?

    I think you could eliminate a large portion of the threads with a resource guide of of beneficial prohormones and where to buy them.
    oh, now i see where you are coming from. you are a bit confused. most of these post ban phs/steroids (post ban as in post 1ad and m1t, the new breed superdrol halodroletc.) are not banned, and they are not sold off to distributors and resold. the raws are imported from china to the original company, a knockoff company just goes to the same or another supplier in china and orders the same compound. now many suppliers in china send bunk stuff, sometimes it may be nefarious, but more than not it is an error, and it is on the company to test what they get. being as they are a knock off company and are simply trying to cash in on a new compound, they dont and either sell a misc steroid, or something that is useless.

    now as for marketers, yes there is a new 1ad and 4ad being sold and it is just dhea. so that is unfair to the consumer. as for halodrol liquigels the same company is selling it as the original halodrol, that is a company cashing in on a name to sell a new product. the new one isnt a ph/steroid, just marketing. see the new superdrol ng for another example.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nni View Post
    oh, now i see where you are coming from. you are a bit confused. most of these post ban phs/steroids (post ban as in post 1ad and m1t, the new breed superdrol halodroletc.) are not banned, and they are not sold off to distributors and resold. the raws are imported from china to the original company, a knockoff company just goes to the same or another supplier in china and orders the same compound. now many suppliers in china send bunk stuff, sometimes it may be nefarious, but more than not it is an error, and it is on the company to test what they get. being as they are a knock off company and are simply trying to cash in on a new compound, they dont and either sell a misc steroid, or something that is useless.

    now as for marketers, yes there is a new 1ad and 4ad being sold and it is just dhea. so that is unfair to the consumer. as for halodrol liquigels the same company is selling it as the original halodrol, that is a company cashing in on a name to sell a new product. the new one isnt a ph/steroid, just marketing. see the new superdrol ng for another example.
    So you are saying the China suppliers are inept or taking the "marketers for a ride". The marketers are too cheap or dishonest to test their products?

    What about marketers with a reputation and the means to test these products? Like I said about Halodrol, Gaspiri was/is a big seller of many other products, and in this case they are marketing junk (Halodrol Liquid Jels). They claimed the government shut them down on the original formula. Is someone else making real Halodrol or M1T or Superdrol? I realize that no one wants to give their steroid sources, but in this case people should recommend the good reputable suppliers. I work with vendors all of the time and if they are good, I recommend. It is good to keep them strong and profitable. I am sure the good suppliers are hurt by these unreliable knock off artists as well.

    DHEA is junk BTW, I swear I all I go was puffy nipples from that crap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by all4show View Post
    So you are saying the China suppliers are inept or taking the "marketers for a ride". The marketers are too cheap or dishonest to test their products?

    What about marketers with a reputation and the means to test these products? Like I said about Halodrol, Gaspiri was/is a big seller of many other products, and in this case they are marketing junk (Halodrol Liquid Jels). They claimed the government shut them down on the original formula. Is someone else making real Halodrol or M1T or Superdrol? I realize that no one wants to give their steroid sources, but in this case people should recommend the good reputable suppliers. I work with vendors all of the time and if they are good, I recommend. It is good to keep them strong and profitable. I am sure the good suppliers are hurt by these unreliable knock off artists as well.

    DHEA is junk BTW, I swear I all I go was puffy nipples from that crap.

    your first comment is a little of both.

    the scond one about gaspari, they used a name and are selling a product, that isnt junk, but they are using the name to continue the brand.

    yes you still can buy real halodrol and real superdrol, not m1t as it is a banned substance. they are secrets, go to any of the big internet supplement stores and they all carry them. h-drol m-drol etc. all claim to be the exact substance. now whether it is or isnt is another story.

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