If you could recommend one supplement to get ripped?

clemson357 · 03-26-2008, 04:02 PM

Yes I know all the basics about negative caloric intake...yada yada. Recommend me a supplement just for shits and giggles.

workingatit43 · 03-26-2008, 06:39 PM

Welcome to IM there are alot of them but to name one i would say eca stack

biggfly · 03-26-2008, 06:54 PM

Agree, gotta love the ECA stack. For me, the most productive cutting (and seemingly rapid effectiveness) stack/supp combo out there. Getting the E(ephedrine) is becoming more increasingly difficult. Stay away from the "extracts" however, must be worded "ephedrine alkaloids" for it to be true ephedrine. 25 mg/ 3x day stacked with aspirin(300mg 3x) and caffeine(200 mg 3x). Not after 4 p.m though, or sleepless nights await you!! Or if you are a laser surgeon, as a shaky hand will not be good!!!LOL

Irons77 · 03-26-2008, 08:51 PM

How much does it go for?

biggfly · 03-26-2008, 09:11 PM

The ECA?? You usually have to buy it in 3 different products. Gotta find a weight loss product with ephedrine in it(ephedra alkaloids or ephedrine alkaloids) like a Lipodrene original formula, or something like that(usually around $70 bottle 90 so a month supply). The old Ripped Fuel tabs had it and I think Yellow Jackets. They don't make them anymore, so its hard to find,so if you find it in any of these supp sites it will be leftover stock with limited quantities. Next just regular old Bayer or generic aspirin, and then caffeine, either through what you drink or cheap ass caffeine capsules for like $6 bottle. The trick is the ephedrine, to find it that is. Great fat burning/cutting formula. If I hear or see anywhere that has some, I will PM you a link. If you can get it, you will love it bro. Does some serious fat burning. The ephedrine raises body temp(thermogenics) so your body temp increase just burns cals while u do nothing, and ephedrine is also anti-catabolic in properties, so you can burn cals/fat without sacrificing your muscle. Great preworkout stim, great focus and energy!!! I will keep looking and see if I find any.

Irons77 · 03-26-2008, 09:32 PM

Let me know please, bro!!

workingatit43 · 03-27-2008, 07:18 AM

I found 2 products right here

Delta Health Products Yellow Bullet 100caps(W /EPH)

EphBurn 25 with EPH

Irons77 · 03-27-2008, 08:41 AM

With these do you have to stack with anything?^^

IainDaniel · 03-27-2008, 08:48 AM

Irons77 · 03-27-2008, 08:49 AM

What???

IainDaniel · 03-27-2008, 08:53 AM

2,4-Dinitrophenol..... It is a joke. BTW. I would never fuck around with this stuff.

Irons77 · 03-27-2008, 08:58 AM

Is it that bad? For 4-8 weeks only?

nni · 03-27-2008, 09:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Irons77

Is it that bad? For 4-8 weeks only?

yes, people have died from misuse.

nni · 03-27-2008, 09:38 AM

my summer cut will be lean xtreme + adrenalean. cant wait.

biggfly · 03-27-2008, 12:56 PM

The DNP is bad stuff you are saying?? Never heard of it...what is it?? Or the ECA stack is bad stuff??

IainDaniel · 03-27-2008, 01:02 PM

DNP is dangerous. It is used in Explosives, pesticides. But miraculous for shedding the pounds.

I won't use ECA again personally. I find myself too sensitive to it, and become extremely irratible.

biggfly · 03-27-2008, 01:13 PM

Oh damn!!! No thanks on that. Ya, ECA is finicky. Some people can't handle that jittery feeling, and irritability is so common. When/if I do it, I usually run smaller amounts, back off the caffeine(which I don't drink pop or coffee so it helps) and keep it to 3 weeks on 2-3 weeks off. Usually only 2-3 times a year. I'm good as long as I am doing something, but if I am sitting watching tv, doing paper or computer work then I can't handle it.

Irons77 · 03-27-2008, 01:40 PM

Sound like good stuff then I'm going to try the "yellow bullet", Could use the energy on my cut. Do I need the bayer and why?

biggfly · 03-27-2008, 01:48 PM

Aspirin is just supposed to be healthy for your heart. You know the Bayer commercial, if someone has a heart attack, give them a Bayer. It is proven to be healthy for the hear in moderation. With the ephedrine stack, probably aspirin is thrown in since the Eph raises heart rate, etc. Check the Yellow Jacket ingredients, not sure if it is the "true ephedrine" and not just an extract. Hang on and let me see if I found some "true eph" for you. Its gotta be "ephedrine alkaloid group" not "extract" from leaves. Theres a big difference. I will PM you.

biggfly · 03-27-2008, 01:52 PM

Just checked...all sold out. Damn. Keep you posted bro!!

IainDaniel · 03-27-2008, 01:55 PM

Personally I would drop the Aspirin it isn't necessary.

http://www.ironmagazineforums.com/su...ml#post1335643 (Best Place to get ECA?)

biggfly · 03-27-2008, 02:00 PM

Thanks...good to know!!!

Irons77 · 03-27-2008, 02:03 PM

Thanks Iain and biggfly

biggfly · 03-27-2008, 02:17 PM

Irons PM'd you bro on it...

PreMier · 03-27-2008, 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by workingatit43

Welcome to IM there are alot of them but to name one i would say eca stack

he has been here since 04

biggfly · 03-27-2008, 02:22 PM

mUst have been incognito!!!!

workingatit43 · 03-27-2008, 06:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PreMier

he has been here since 04

i must have been having a brain cramp doing alot of posting on alot of boards with this rep stuff get spacey at times

workingatit43 · 03-27-2008, 06:15 PM

Ah now i see what i did looked real quick saw the 1 but that was photo's not posts duhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!

Irons77 · 03-27-2008, 06:19 PM

Yellow bullet good?

biggfly · 03-27-2008, 07:25 PM

Not sure Irons...did you get my PM?? I think that ECA product on the site looks like the only one left in stock on there that has the "ephedra alkaloids group" meaning the real deal. The extracts aren't the same as the alkaloids group ephedra. One is stronger(the banned one) te other is much more subdued, and probably more like anything you can get off the shelf these days. Maybe compare the "old" original Hydroxycut to the new formula Hydroxycut. No comparison at all.

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03-26-2008, 06:39 PM	#2
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03-26-2008, 08:51 PM	#4
Irons77 Training like a bitch Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 622	How much does it go for?
	Soreness is weakness exiting the body.

03-26-2008, 09:32 PM	#6
Irons77 Training like a bitch Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 622	Let me know please, bro!!
	Soreness is weakness exiting the body.

03-27-2008, 07:18 AM	#7
workingatit43 AI/Sbmuscle Rep Elite Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Ma Posts: 797	I found 2 products right here Delta Health Products Yellow Bullet 100caps(W /EPH) EphBurn 25 with EPH
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03-26-2008, 06:54 PM	#3
biggfly Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: u.s.a Posts: 378 Photos: 2	Agree, gotta love the ECA stack. For me, the most productive cutting (and seemingly rapid effectiveness) stack/supp combo out there. Getting the E(ephedrine) is becoming more increasingly difficult. Stay away from the "extracts" however, must be worded "ephedrine alkaloids" for it to be true ephedrine. 25 mg/ 3x day stacked with aspirin(300mg 3x) and caffeine(200 mg 3x). Not after 4 p.m though, or sleepless nights await you!! Or if you are a laser surgeon, as a shaky hand will not be good!!!LOL

03-26-2008, 09:11 PM	#5
biggfly Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: u.s.a Posts: 378 Photos: 2	The ECA?? You usually have to buy it in 3 different products. Gotta find a weight loss product with ephedrine in it(ephedra alkaloids or ephedrine alkaloids) like a Lipodrene original formula, or something like that(usually around $70 bottle 90 so a month supply). The old Ripped Fuel tabs had it and I think Yellow Jackets. They don't make them anymore, so its hard to find,so if you find it in any of these supp sites it will be leftover stock with limited quantities. Next just regular old Bayer or generic aspirin, and then caffeine, either through what you drink or cheap ass caffeine capsules for like $6 bottle. The trick is the ephedrine, to find it that is. Great fat burning/cutting formula. If I hear or see anywhere that has some, I will PM you a link. If you can get it, you will love it bro. Does some serious fat burning. The ephedrine raises body temp(thermogenics) so your body temp increase just burns cals while u do nothing, and ephedrine is also anti-catabolic in properties, so you can burn cals/fat without sacrificing your muscle. Great preworkout stim, great focus and energy!!! I will keep looking and see if I find any.

03-27-2008, 08:41 AM	#8
Irons77 Training like a bitch Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 622	With these do you have to stack with anything?^^
	Soreness is weakness exiting the body.

03-27-2008, 08:48 AM	#9
IainDaniel My Role Model Moderator Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 14,734	Dnp
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03-27-2008, 08:49 AM	#10
Irons77 Training like a bitch Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 622	What???
	Soreness is weakness exiting the body.

03-27-2008, 08:53 AM	#11
IainDaniel My Role Model Moderator Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 14,734	2,4-Dinitrophenol..... It is a joke. BTW. I would never fuck around with this stuff.
	Obstacles don't have to stop you. If you run into a wall, don't turn around and give up. Figure out how to climb it, go through it, or work around it. Michael Jordan

03-27-2008, 08:58 AM	#12
Irons77 Training like a bitch Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 622	Is it that bad? For 4-8 weeks only?
	Soreness is weakness exiting the body.

03-27-2008, 09:38 AM	#14
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03-27-2008, 12:56 PM	#15
biggfly Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: u.s.a Posts: 378 Photos: 2	The DNP is bad stuff you are saying?? Never heard of it...what is it?? Or the ECA stack is bad stuff??

03-27-2008, 01:02 PM	#16
IainDaniel My Role Model Moderator Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 14,734	DNP is dangerous. It is used in Explosives, pesticides. But miraculous for shedding the pounds. I won't use ECA again personally. I find myself too sensitive to it, and become extremely irratible.
	Obstacles don't have to stop you. If you run into a wall, don't turn around and give up. Figure out how to climb it, go through it, or work around it. Michael Jordan

03-27-2008, 01:13 PM	#17
biggfly Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: u.s.a Posts: 378 Photos: 2	Oh damn!!! No thanks on that. Ya, ECA is finicky. Some people can't handle that jittery feeling, and irritability is so common. When/if I do it, I usually run smaller amounts, back off the caffeine(which I don't drink pop or coffee so it helps) and keep it to 3 weeks on 2-3 weeks off. Usually only 2-3 times a year. I'm good as long as I am doing something, but if I am sitting watching tv, doing paper or computer work then I can't handle it.

03-27-2008, 01:40 PM	#18
Irons77 Training like a bitch Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 622	Sound like good stuff then I'm going to try the "yellow bullet", Could use the energy on my cut. Do I need the bayer and why?
	Soreness is weakness exiting the body.

03-27-2008, 01:48 PM	#19
biggfly Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: u.s.a Posts: 378 Photos: 2	Aspirin is just supposed to be healthy for your heart. You know the Bayer commercial, if someone has a heart attack, give them a Bayer. It is proven to be healthy for the hear in moderation. With the ephedrine stack, probably aspirin is thrown in since the Eph raises heart rate, etc. Check the Yellow Jacket ingredients, not sure if it is the "true ephedrine" and not just an extract. Hang on and let me see if I found some "true eph" for you. Its gotta be "ephedrine alkaloid group" not "extract" from leaves. Theres a big difference. I will PM you.

03-27-2008, 01:52 PM	#20
biggfly Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: u.s.a Posts: 378 Photos: 2	Just checked...all sold out. Damn. Keep you posted bro!!

03-27-2008, 01:55 PM	#21
IainDaniel My Role Model Moderator Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 14,734	Personally I would drop the Aspirin it isn't necessary. http://www.ironmagazineforums.com/su...ml#post1335643 (Best Place to get ECA?)
	Obstacles don't have to stop you. If you run into a wall, don't turn around and give up. Figure out how to climb it, go through it, or work around it. Michael Jordan

03-27-2008, 02:00 PM	#22
biggfly Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: u.s.a Posts: 378 Photos: 2	Thanks...good to know!!!

03-27-2008, 02:03 PM	#23
Irons77 Training like a bitch Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 622	Thanks Iain and biggfly
	Soreness is weakness exiting the body.

03-27-2008, 02:17 PM	#24
biggfly Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: u.s.a Posts: 378 Photos: 2	Irons PM'd you bro on it...

03-27-2008, 02:22 PM	#26
biggfly Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: u.s.a Posts: 378 Photos: 2	mUst have been incognito!!!!

03-27-2008, 06:15 PM	#28
workingatit43 AI/Sbmuscle Rep Elite Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Ma Posts: 797	Ah now i see what i did looked real quick saw the 1 but that was photo's not posts duhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!
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03-27-2008, 06:19 PM	#29
Irons77 Training like a bitch Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 622	Yellow bullet good?
	Soreness is weakness exiting the body.

03-27-2008, 07:25 PM	#30
biggfly Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: u.s.a Posts: 378 Photos: 2	Not sure Irons...did you get my PM?? I think that ECA product on the site looks like the only one left in stock on there that has the "ephedra alkaloids group" meaning the real deal. The extracts aren't the same as the alkaloids group ephedra. One is stronger(the banned one) te other is much more subdued, and probably more like anything you can get off the shelf these days. Maybe compare the "old" original Hydroxycut to the new formula Hydroxycut. No comparison at all.