About to start taking Havoc? What supps should I take?

skeetskeetholla · 04-26-2008, 05:31 PM

I would first like to introduce myself to the board. I have been a member for a little while now and have learned a lot of good info through this site. Just now is my first time to speak up. Im a 24 yr old person who just bought a bottle of RPN's Havoc due to the good responses people have had with it and its apparent lack of side affects.

Well like the title says im about to start taking Havoc, and was wondering what supplements I should take with it. I have heard some liver protectant is good in addition to some anti estrogen, but which products exactly? Thank you for all the help.

**Built** · 04-26-2008, 05:51 PM

Hi there -

So what is Havoc?

workingatit43 · 04-26-2008, 06:22 PM

Havoc is a oral methylated steriod for support supps I would take Cycle Support pre-load it 1-2 weeks before starting the cycle. For pct you can take Post Cycle Support or Stoked and a cortisol product such as Lean Xtreme I would aslo suggest you have Nolva on hand in case of problems. Let me know if I can be of any help.

Cycle Support

Post Cycle Support

Stoked

Lean Xtreme

Nolva

With this being said you should eat alot but clean train hard and proper rest and you should have some nice gains how long have you beeen training?

**Built** · 04-26-2008, 08:55 PM

Oh jeez, an oral-only cycle? For a man?

Ugh!

**nni** · 04-26-2008, 08:57 PM

havoc is a very good compound.

workingatits post is pretty good.

**Built** · 04-26-2008, 09:05 PM

What is in it? It's a prohormone, right?

workingatit43 · 04-27-2008, 09:10 AM

Not sure I am 100% right on this but it is not a PH it is a active steriod no conversion needed.

2a,3a-epithio-17a-methyl-5a-androstan- 17b-ol 10 mg

**Built** · 04-27-2008, 10:42 AM

I find endocrinology so fascinating - I really need to learn more about the difference between prohormones, precursors, and steroids.

**nni** · 04-27-2008, 11:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Built

What is in it? It's a prohormone, right?

its a methylated oral steroid.

Bradicallyman · 04-29-2008, 04:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by skeetskeetholla

I would first like to introduce myself to the board. I have been a member for a little while now and have learned a lot of good info through this site. Just now is my first time to speak up. Im a 24 yr old person who just bought a bottle of RPN's Havoc due to the good responses people have had with it and its apparent lack of side affects.

Well like the title says im about to start taking Havoc, and was wondering what supplements I should take with it. I have heard some liver protectant is good in addition to some anti estrogen, but which products exactly? Thank you for all the help.

Not to be rude, but it kind of sounds like you are jumping into taking a pro hormone without the right research. Upon making the decision to use Havoc, you should have already devised at least a PCT plan. This really isn't something you just jump into because other people have given it good responses. I do realize that Havoc is one of the more mild pro hormones ( I have also used it) and if I am incorrect about my assumptions then I apologize in advance.

I ran Havoc for 4 weeks at 30mg. The supps I took while using Havoc include cycle support, taurine, potassium, and nolva at 40/30/20/10 for PCT. Hope that helps

04-26-2008, 05:31 PM	#1
skeetskeetholla Registered User Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: funky town Posts: 1	About to start taking Havoc? What supps should I take? BODYBUILDING SUPPLEMENTS High Quality Supplements For Bodybuilders and Athletes. www.ironmaglabs.com I would first like to introduce myself to the board. I have been a member for a little while now and have learned a lot of good info through this site. Just now is my first time to speak up. Im a 24 yr old person who just bought a bottle of RPN's Havoc due to the good responses people have had with it and its apparent lack of side affects. Well like the title says im about to start taking Havoc, and was wondering what supplements I should take with it. I have heard some liver protectant is good in addition to some anti estrogen, but which products exactly? Thank you for all the help.

04-26-2008, 06:22 PM	#3
workingatit43 AI/Sbmuscle Rep Elite Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Ma Posts: 983	Havoc is a oral methylated steriod for support supps I would take Cycle Support pre-load it 1-2 weeks before starting the cycle. For pct you can take Post Cycle Support or Stoked and a cortisol product such as Lean Xtreme I would aslo suggest you have Nolva on hand in case of problems. Let me know if I can be of any help. Cycle Support Post Cycle Support Stoked Lean Xtreme Nolva With this being said you should eat alot but clean train hard and proper rest and you should have some nice gains how long have you beeen training?
	Anabolic Innovations Representative Sbmuscle.com Representative My opinons, views, and suggestions are that of my own and do not represent SBMuscle.com. Anabolic Innovation at SB Muscle Sbmuscle.com

04-26-2008, 08:57 PM	#5
nni Designer Supplements Moderator Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 1,111 Blog Entries: 1	havoc is a very good compound. workingatits post is pretty good.
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04-27-2008, 09:10 AM	#7
workingatit43 AI/Sbmuscle Rep Elite Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Ma Posts: 983	Not sure I am 100% right on this but it is not a PH it is a active steriod no conversion needed. 2a,3a-epithio-17a-methyl-5a-androstan- 17b-ol 10 mg
	Anabolic Innovations Representative Sbmuscle.com Representative My opinons, views, and suggestions are that of my own and do not represent SBMuscle.com. Anabolic Innovation at SB Muscle Sbmuscle.com

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04-26-2008, 05:51 PM	#2
Built Bioidentical Bodybuilder Moderator Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: . Posts: 1,297	Hi there - So what is Havoc?

04-26-2008, 08:55 PM	#4
Built Bioidentical Bodybuilder Moderator Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: . Posts: 1,297	Oh jeez, an oral-only cycle? For a man? Ugh!

04-26-2008, 09:05 PM	#6
Built Bioidentical Bodybuilder Moderator Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: . Posts: 1,297	What is in it? It's a prohormone, right?

04-27-2008, 10:42 AM	#8
Built Bioidentical Bodybuilder Moderator Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: . Posts: 1,297	I find endocrinology so fascinating - I really need to learn more about the difference between prohormones, precursors, and steroids.