whats the closest thing to legal juice?

Stonerboner · 07-23-2008, 02:15 PM

I was reading a mag that sold winstrol deca and anadrol.....how? arent those 3 illegal? my friend said somthign about legal forms of anadrol and winstrol being "winny v" and "dbol"? he also said methol 1 and mbol would be about as close as i could get to legal roids. I dont want to break any laws but I've givin it some thought and i want some juice.

zombul · 07-23-2008, 02:51 PM

A bs company called SDI Labs sells some crap products they named after winstrol and dianabol and what ever else they name them.They even have a picture of like a horse or cow or some shit on one of the bottles.These are a bs waste of time and are junk products.DO NOT waste your time on them. A single product that is legal Fast Action SDROL 60tabs (Superdrol Clone)
This is a legal steriod period. Now you know that what purpose dose it serve if you didn't know that do you know how to take or pct it? If not good luck with the side effects and the man boobs

. Do a little research and you'll find there are alot of ph's around that are very potent but if you don't know how to properly use them then whats the point?

lucifuge · 07-23-2008, 04:48 PM

I agree with zombul, make sure you do your research.
it's serious stuff

workingatit43 · 07-23-2008, 05:21 PM

If this is ging to be a 1st cycle I would suggest a milder compound

H-drol

Epistane

Havoc

Any of these will produce good gains with less side affects. You still need to run support supps like Cycle Support. You also need to run a pct. If you run any of these 3 you can probally get buy with a OTC pct such as Post Cycle Support which has a SERM like substance Trans-Resveratrol I would still have a SERM on hand just in case.

Post Cycle Support

SERM

And here is some stuff you can read up on. I wish you the best of luck bro

http://www.otcpct.com/

Trans-Reveratrol

**dg806** · 07-23-2008, 06:08 PM

Great advice from the above guys

zombul · 07-23-2008, 07:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by workingatit43

If this is ging to be a 1st cycle I would suggest a milder compound

H-drol

Epistane

Havoc

Any of these will produce good gains with less side affects. You still need to run support supps like Cycle Support. You also need to run a pct. If you run any of these 3 you can probally get buy with a OTC pct such as Post Cycle Support which has a SERM like substance Trans-Resveratrol I would still have a SERM on hand just in case.

Agreed on starting milder.I was just pointing out that so many people ask that question all the time and have no idea what they are often asking."Whats the next best thing to steroids" and they would take it with no research if you just tell them.I was just inspiring those who come across this thread to do some research because there is so many things that can happen and so many diffrent ways you can react to something that others won't. They need to practice "researching" or reading stickies if nothing else. Workingatit is so much nicer he layed out all the basics for you man so thank him he saved you alot of work.
Post Cycle Support

SERM

And here is some stuff you can read up on. I wish you the best of luck bro

http://www.otcpct.com/

Trans-Reveratrol

juggernaut · 07-24-2008, 04:06 AM

hey workingatit, if I may be so bold as to ask, what is stopping you from doing the real thing? Taken correctly, you'd probably minimize the side effects and possibly have less than some of the shit that's out there.
This doesnt mean I condone or use, I'm just becoming more and more aware of the bullshit machine that the media instigates and how they fuck with our heads. All too often, we are victims of the lies that I feel the media and the supp companies play.

TexanTA1996 · 07-24-2008, 07:03 AM

How old are you? I would advise against using anything mentioned in this thread period, and surely advise against it if you are under 21...

Quote:

Originally Posted by juggernaut

hey workingatit, if I may be so bold as to ask, what is stopping you from doing the real thing?

Most people aren't very logical...

PGHRam · 07-24-2008, 07:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by juggernaut

hey workingatit, if I may be so bold as to ask, what is stopping you from doing the real thing? Taken correctly, you'd probably minimize the side effects and possibly have less than some of the shit that's out there.

Well said bro!

zombul · 07-24-2008, 08:21 AM

Don't know what i done above. I replied to your quote workingatit and replied in the quote.Head up my ass????

workingatit43 · 07-24-2008, 08:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by juggernaut

hey workingatit, if I may be so bold as to ask, what is stopping you from doing the real thing? Taken correctly, you'd probably minimize the side effects and possibly have less than some of the shit that's out there.
This doesnt mean I condone or use, I'm just becoming more and more aware of the bullshit machine that the media instigates and how they fuck with our heads. All too often, we are victims of the lies that I feel the media and the supp companies play.

Not a problem bro. I do not use the "real" thing(even thought h-drol, m-drol, epi,havoc are real steriods)for a couple of reasons.

1. I do not have a source and will not risk ordering online.

2. I will not get arrested for having a bottle of Havoc but will for having a vial of test e it is that plain and simple

workingatit43 · 07-24-2008, 08:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zombul

Don't know what i done above. I replied to your quote workingatit and replied in the quote.Head up my ass????

Yeah I was looking at that and saying hmnn what am I missing LOL

workingatit43 · 07-24-2008, 08:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TexanTA1996

How old are you? I would advise against using anything mentioned in this thread period, and surely advise against it if you are under 21...

Most people aren't very logical...

As for you who has nothing positive to say about anything. I will answer your question that you could have found if you had attempted to look at any of the logs I have done age 46.

TexanTA1996 · 07-24-2008, 02:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by workingatit43

Not a problem bro. I do not use the "real" thing(even thought h-drol, m-drol, epi,havoc are real steriods)for a couple of reasons.

1. I do not have a source and will not risk ordering online.

2. I will not get arrested for having a bottle of Havoc but will for having a vial of test e it is that plain and simple

There's nothing illegal about ordering online, it's not enough evidence to convict you of any crime.

I could order steroids from a computer and have them delivered to any address in the entire world. I could have them delivered to the White House, to YOUR house, to my neighbor, etc...If they are found in the mail, or seized at the boarder, nothing happens. They seize it, you're out your money. It only warrants investigation if you were to order, let's say, $15,000 worth of steroids-which only a complete moron would do. The only real "risk" in ordering online is losing your money.

The fact that you don't have a source is really your own fault. When I decided to do a cycle, it took me maybe a week to ask around and find a reputable source. If you're well known on any decent board, you should have absolutely no problem at all finding a source.

The bottom line is that I see you making terrible excuses to use products that are 1) More dangerous than steroids, 2) Less Effective and 3) More expensive.

You continue to make excuses for why you're making stupid decisions. I think you're just a little timid to admit you just might not be the brightest person in the world.

juggernaut · 07-24-2008, 03:36 PM

As harsh as texan put it, I couldnt say it better myself. There is always a way-I strongly suggest you do homework first before purchasing anything that might be remotely near similarities to gear and/or could potentially harm more than the real stuff.

musclemilk40 · 07-24-2008, 04:22 PM

Check out Methyl V Test (tren, phera, superdrol), Fina Flex (tren/super)

These are all very powerful "pro steroid" formulas and should be taken under the advise ment of an advanced trainer or physician.

TexanTA1996 · 07-24-2008, 05:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by juggernaut

As harsh as texan put it, I couldnt say it better myself. There is always a way-I strongly suggest you do homework first before purchasing anything that might be remotely near similarities to gear and/or could potentially harm more than the real stuff.

The problem is that people aren't interested in facts, they are only interested in hearing whatever arguments support the ideas that they have in their own head-regardless of how wrong they are.

Deep down, he knows that using these products is probably the wrong choice, but he doesn't care, apparently. Most people lack any real ability to think for themselves. Since steroids are illegal, he's convinced that anything legal must be perfectly side-effect free, or close to it. The problem being that the truth is far from this idea. Half of this junk is 3 times the price of real juice, and has barely been researched at all. I hate to call someone stupid that I've never met in person, but I don't know what else would possibly cause a person to make such poor choices regarding supplementation.

lucifuge · 07-24-2008, 06:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TexanTA1996

The problem is that people aren't interested in facts, they are only interested in hearing whatever arguments support the ideas that they have in their own head-regardless of how wrong they are.

Deep down, he knows that using these products is probably the wrong choice, but he doesn't care, apparently. Most people lack any real ability to think for themselves. Since steroids are illegal, he's convinced that anything legal must be perfectly side-effect free, or close to it. The problem being that the truth is far from this idea. Half of this junk is 3 times the price of real juice, and has barely been researched at all. I hate to call someone stupid that I've never met in person, but I don't know what else would possibly cause a person to make such poor choices regarding supplementation.

So what if he chooses to use otc compounds?
Whatever his reasons may be, it's still his choice.
Seems a little ridiculous to try and insult someones intelligence because they're decisions or opinions aren't the same as your own.

workingatit43 · 07-24-2008, 06:24 PM

I guess they have not heard about people being arrested after signing for a package of steriods. Not only do I not want that I also do not want to take the chance of getting some junk or nothing at all from these online places. The choice is mine I choose not to that simple. I do not need to explain myself or my choices or my suggestions to Texan

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workingatit43 · 07-24-2008, 06:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TexanTA1996

There's nothing illegal about ordering online, it's not enough evidence to convict you of any crime.

I could order steroids from a computer and have them delivered to any address in the entire world. I could have them delivered to the White House, to YOUR house, to my neighbor, etc...If they are found in the mail, or seized at the boarder, nothing happens. They seize it, you're out your money. It only warrants investigation if you were to order, let's say, $15,000 worth of steroids-which only a complete moron would do. The only real "risk" in ordering online is losing your money.

The fact that you don't have a source is really your own fault. When I decided to do a cycle, it took me maybe a week to ask around and find a reputable source. If you're well known on any decent board, you should have absolutely no problem at all finding a source.

The bottom line is that I see you making terrible excuses to use products that are 1) More dangerous than steroids, 2) Less Effective and 3) More expensive.

You continue to make excuses for why you're making stupid decisions. I think you're just a little timid to admit you just might not be the brightest person in the world.

WRONG

workingatit43 · 07-24-2008, 07:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TexanTA1996

The problem is that people aren't interested in facts, they are only interested in hearing whatever arguments support the ideas that they have in their own head-regardless of how wrong they are.

Deep down, he knows that using these products is probably the wrong choice, but he doesn't care, apparently. Most people lack any real ability to think for themselves. Since steroids are illegal, he's convinced that anything legal must be perfectly side-effect free, or close to it. The problem being that the truth is far from this idea. Half of this junk is 3 times the price of real juice, and has barely been researched at all. I hate to call someone stupid that I've never met in person, but I don't know what else would possibly cause a person to make such poor choices regarding supplementation.

This statement is also false many times I tell people about the side effect and on numerous occasions I have stated to research every thing you put in your body. I also care very much for everyone and give advice to the best of my ability to keep people who choose to run these as safe as possible.

The one thing that is very clear to anyone that wants to take a close look is that you are here on this forum for 1 thing and 1 thing only and that is to hate on anybody involved in the supp business. It is really a shame that you do not have anything better to do with your time.

This will be the very last time I respond to anything you have to say because it is simply pointless and a complete waste of my time. I wish you well bro

CORUM · 07-24-2008, 07:15 PM

yeah, all they do is sieze it? tell that to the guy i know that went to jail for trying to bring across the boarder. also another guy that went to jail cause he recieved it in the mail and they waited till it was in his POSSESION and busted him. those were BS statements!!! dont get me wrong i have nothing against steroids, but why go to jail for something stupid? i do not think they should be banned, but they are so go with a legal alternative!

TexanTA1996 · 07-24-2008, 07:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by workingatit43

I guess they have not heard about people being arrested after signing for a package of steriods. Not only do I not want that I also do not want to take the chance of getting some junk or nothing at all from these online places.

It's almost as if you willingly choose to be mis-informed.

I have never myself, nor have I heard of anyone signing for a package of steroids. They come to your house, I've never once had to sign when I use to order from overseas.

Secondly, the reputable online companies live and die by their reputation. They don't rip people off because bad reviews would completely KILL their business. All they have to go on is their reputation. You would know this if you would have done your research. In addition to this, if you know people on boards you can easily find someone who brews their own.

Quote:

Originally Posted by CORUM

yeah, all they do is sieze it? tell that to the guy i know that went to jail for trying to bring across the boarder.

lol. Yea, because driving steroids across the boarder is totally comparable to ordering them online. I don't know what's worse, your grammar or your reasoning.

CORUM · 07-24-2008, 07:28 PM

I could have them delivered to the White House, to YOUR house, to my neighbor, etc...If they are found in the mail, or seized at the boarder, nothing happens

with that statement i figure you were saying it was legal to bring them across!! and you do not worry about my grammar there DR DOLITTLE!!!! (sorry i missed your grammar class) no wonder everyone looks at me funny when i tell them i am from texas, cause you are about a think you know it all asshole!!!! and really i think you pull this crap out of your ass!!! i know people that have been busted from ordering in the mail and trying to bring across the border. you have what you theories? show me where it is ok to order it in the mail, or are you some criminal lawyer and study this crap!!!

07-23-2008, 02:51 PM	#2
zombul SB MUSCLE REP Elite Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Power Rack Posts: 1,847	A bs company called SDI Labs sells some crap products they named after winstrol and dianabol and what ever else they name them.They even have a picture of like a horse or cow or some shit on one of the bottles.These are a bs waste of time and are junk products.DO NOT waste your time on them. A single product that is legal Fast Action SDROL 60tabs (Superdrol Clone) This is a legal steriod period. Now you know that what purpose dose it serve if you didn't know that do you know how to take or pct it? If not good luck with the side effects and the man boobs . Do a little research and you'll find there are alot of ph's around that are very potent but if you don't know how to properly use them then whats the point? Last edited by zombul : 07-23-2008 at 03:05 PM.
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07-23-2008, 04:48 PM	#3
lucifuge LG Sciences Rep Elite Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: 1313 Mockingbird Lane Posts: 1,114 Photos: 11	I agree with zombul, make sure you do your research. it's serious stuff
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07-23-2008, 05:21 PM	#4
workingatit43 AI/Sbmuscle Rep Elite Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Ma Posts: 1,321	If this is ging to be a 1st cycle I would suggest a milder compound H-drol Epistane Havoc Any of these will produce good gains with less side affects. You still need to run support supps like Cycle Support. You also need to run a pct. If you run any of these 3 you can probally get buy with a OTC pct such as Post Cycle Support which has a SERM like substance Trans-Resveratrol I would still have a SERM on hand just in case. Post Cycle Support SERM And here is some stuff you can read up on. I wish you the best of luck bro http://www.otcpct.com/ Trans-Reveratrol
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07-23-2008, 06:08 PM	#5
dg806 Guardian of The Homeland Super Moderator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Charlotte NC Posts: 17,127	Great advice from the above guys
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07-24-2008, 04:06 AM	#7
juggernaut hybrid of machine & skin Elite Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Mars Posts: 4,125 Photos: 2	hey workingatit, if I may be so bold as to ask, what is stopping you from doing the real thing? Taken correctly, you'd probably minimize the side effects and possibly have less than some of the shit that's out there. This doesnt mean I condone or use, I'm just becoming more and more aware of the bullshit machine that the media instigates and how they fuck with our heads. All too often, we are victims of the lies that I feel the media and the supp companies play.
	Eat well, train daily, die anyway.

07-23-2008, 02:15 PM	#1
Stonerboner Registered User Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Pensacola FLA Posts: 20	whats the closest thing to legal juice? I was reading a mag that sold winstrol deca and anadrol.....how? arent those 3 illegal? my friend said somthign about legal forms of anadrol and winstrol being "winny v" and "dbol"? he also said methol 1 and mbol would be about as close as i could get to legal roids. I dont want to break any laws but I've givin it some thought and i want some juice.

07-24-2008, 08:21 AM	#10
zombul SB MUSCLE REP Elite Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Power Rack Posts: 1,847	Don't know what i done above. I replied to your quote workingatit and replied in the quote.Head up my ass????
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07-24-2008, 03:36 PM	#15
juggernaut hybrid of machine & skin Elite Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Mars Posts: 4,125 Photos: 2	As harsh as texan put it, I couldnt say it better myself. There is always a way-I strongly suggest you do homework first before purchasing anything that might be remotely near similarities to gear and/or could potentially harm more than the real stuff.
	Eat well, train daily, die anyway.

07-24-2008, 04:22 PM	#16
musclemilk40 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 57	Methyl V Test, Fina Flex, Trenadrol Check out Methyl V Test (tren, phera, superdrol), Fina Flex (tren/super) These are all very powerful "pro steroid" formulas and should be taken under the advise ment of an advanced trainer or physician.

07-24-2008, 06:24 PM	#19
workingatit43 AI/Sbmuscle Rep Elite Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Ma Posts: 1,321	I guess they have not heard about people being arrested after signing for a package of steriods. Not only do I not want that I also do not want to take the chance of getting some junk or nothing at all from these online places. The choice is mine I choose not to that simple. I do not need to explain myself or my choices or my suggestions to Texan Controlled Deliveries Read #19Elite Fitness - ANABOLIC STEROIDS, BODYBUILDING AND THE LAW Controlled Delivery of Steroids - Xtreme Physique Gymnasium Forums
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07-24-2008, 07:15 PM	#22
CORUM Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: California Posts: 323	yeah, all they do is sieze it? tell that to the guy i know that went to jail for trying to bring across the boarder. also another guy that went to jail cause he recieved it in the mail and they waited till it was in his POSSESION and busted him. those were BS statements!!! dont get me wrong i have nothing against steroids, but why go to jail for something stupid? i do not think they should be banned, but they are so go with a legal alternative!

07-24-2008, 07:28 PM	#24
CORUM Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: California Posts: 323	I could have them delivered to the White House, to YOUR house, to my neighbor, etc...If they are found in the mail, or seized at the boarder, nothing happens with that statement i figure you were saying it was legal to bring them across!! and you do not worry about my grammar there DR DOLITTLE!!!! (sorry i missed your grammar class) no wonder everyone looks at me funny when i tell them i am from texas, cause you are about a think you know it all asshole!!!! and really i think you pull this crap out of your ass!!! i know people that have been busted from ordering in the mail and trying to bring across the border. you have what you theories? show me where it is ok to order it in the mail, or are you some criminal lawyer and study this crap!!!