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    Otc Pct

    Many people are choosing to run over the OTC PCT. This is just some info that Dmang who also reps for us put together some really good info. Each and every person needs to make a decision on pct. In my opinions I still believe that a SERM has it place and is never a bad idea to have on hand. Research is the key.

    http://www.otcpct.com/

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    For a real steriod cycle, IMO, I would not trust that.
    First, you don't want your body to get that depressed where you have to hit it that hard to recover. That is where the low dose HCG comes into play during cycle. Keep your testes functioning as close to normal as you can, and it is way easier to recover.






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    Quote Originally Posted by dg806 View Post
    For a real steriod cycle, IMO, I would not trust that.
    First, you don't want your body to get that depressed where you have to hit it that hard to recover. That is where the low dose HCG comes into play during cycle. Keep your testes functioning as close to normal as you can, and it is way easier to recover.

    Yes I agree. I would be talking more in the lines of some of the more mild oral designer steriods.

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    Quote Originally Posted by workingatit43 View Post
    Yes I agree. I would be talking more in the lines of some of the more mild oral designer steriods.
    Some of these I think it would be safe to say you don't really know what you will need. You may be fine with otc stuff, then again, you may need the real stuff.






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    Quote Originally Posted by dg806 View Post
    Some of these I think it would be safe to say you don't really know what you will need. You may be fine with otc stuff, then again, you may need the real stuff.
    I alway advise having a SERM on hand even if not used.

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    Anabolic Xtreme-PCT
    Supplement Facts
    Serving Size: 1 Capsule
    Servings per Container: 90
    Amount Per Serving
    AX Proprietary blend 135mg
    Avena Sativa Extract 20:1, Agaricus bisporus extract., 6-acetoxy-3-hydroxy-17-keto-etioallocholane, 17a-methyl-17b-hydroxyl-3-keto-delta 1,4,6-etioallocholtriene, Condensed Agaricus bisporus extract

    Kind of freaks me out that it's Methyl but oh well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ebrake74 View Post
    Anabolic Xtreme-PCT
    Supplement Facts
    Serving Size: 1 Capsule
    Servings per Container: 90
    Amount Per Serving
    AX Proprietary blend 135mg
    Avena Sativa Extract 20:1, Agaricus bisporus extract., 6-acetoxy-3-hydroxy-17-keto-etioallocholane, 17a-methyl-17b-hydroxyl-3-keto-delta 1,4,6-etioallocholtriene, Condensed Agaricus bisporus extract

    Kind of freaks me out that it's Methyl but oh well.
    Meltdown had a methyl in it and I had no problems

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    Thats cool, yeah from everything I've heard including you I think it's good. A bit stronger than 6oxo or regular ATD.

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    Meltdown isn't a PCT though correct? My concern is that running a Methyl PCT after say...SD or just about any PH is hard on your stuff. You know what I'm sayin!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ebrake74 View Post
    Meltdown isn't a PCT though correct? My concern is that running a Methyl PCT after say...SD or just about any PH is hard on your stuff. You know what I'm sayin!
    No Meltdown is a fatburner

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    I found this review on it.

    Destined4Nothin11-25-2006, 04:58 PM
    Alrighty I haven't seen many reviews of this product so I thought I would fire one up for you guys:

    Here the background info on the Product:


    PCT (Post Cycle Therapy): is a hormone optimizer that can increase your natural testosterone production by as much as 400%, while combining a new powerful anti-aromatase that decreases estrogen levels in males an average of 50%. There is also a new and highly aromatase inhibiting compound that binds to aromatase more tightly and prevents estrogen conversion. Bottom line, when finishing any Anabolic Xtreme Cycle, no other recovery product will help you keep your gains like PCT.

    AX Proprietary blend - 135mg
    (Avena Sativa Extract 20:1, 6-acetoxy-3-hydroxy-17-keto-etioallocholane, Agaricus bisporus extract., 17a-methyl-17b-hydroxyl-3-keto-delta 1,4,6-etioallocholtriene, Condensed Agaricus bisporus extract)


    This product is the same as Ultra Hotter if I am not mistaken.

    I had bought AX box set because I wanted to use retain for my cut, and the price was right with the PCT and Rampage packaged in. I have also used retain as a standalone so I know the effects of that product.

    Anyways:

    Positive Effects:
    This is a quite powerfull AI, and it absolutely obliterates estrogen conversion (more on this later). I had lost 7 pounds and my strengh increased slightly on all my lifts. Which is rather inpressive for being on a cut. The price for this product is also perfect if you pick up the packaged deal, but it seem a tad on the expensive side for buying it alone.

    Negative Effects:
    Ok, now this is where the estrogen factor comes in. This did such a good job at lowering estrogen that my joints were so dry and sore that it started to become unbearable(so I bought some bulk cissus). I had a slight problem with oily skin, and some acne, but it was managable with some good cleansing products.


    Overall:
    This is a good product, I would recommend it somebody looking into using an AI. I still enjoy being on 6-OXO more than this, but this is still a great product, and it does it's job well.

    8/10


    ****** If you are thinking about running an a/a cycle, this is by no means adequate as a standalone PCT. Although the misleading name states so. If you run this as a pct, do it alongside a SERM******

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    dark_man81211-25-2006, 07:02 PM
    ****** If you are thinking about running an a/a cycle, this is by no means adequate as a standalone PCT. Although the misleading name states so. If you run this as a pct, do it alongside a SERM******


    Good Point. Nice review...

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