another havoc thread...is this a solid cycle

[NeverEnough]

Im thinking about running a 4 week cycle of havoc...this is what i got so far

preload with cycle support for about a week before the cycle, jump into havoc dose is 20/30/30/30 and run cycle support and milk thistle through the 4 weeks of havoc. this is where the questions come in...i know nolva is the recommended pct...but i also heard it tastes like shit and was wondering if there are any pill pcts out there that can do me as good? and the pct will be started the day after the last dose of havoc

any suggestions would be appreciated...

[FishOrCutBait]

Originally Posted by NeverEnough

Im thinking about running a 4 week cycle of havoc...this is what i got so far

preload with cycle support for about a week before the cycle, jump into havoc dose is 20/30/30/30 and run cycle support and milk thistle through the 4 weeks of havoc. this is where the questions come in...i know nolva is the recommended pct...but i also heard it tastes like shit and was wondering if there are any pill pcts out there that can do me as good? and the pct will be started the day after the last dose of havoc

any suggestions would be appreciated...

nolva doesnt taste that bad.
if you've ever taken bulk aminos, or even a shot of 151 it is exponentially better than that.
drop it into water and shoot that down.

also, correct me if im wrong, but its best to run the milk thistle/cycle support a week to ten days before the cycle, then throughout as well.

[NeverEnough]

yes i believe you are correct...when i said about a week before i meant atleast...it will probably be about 8 or 9 days before the havoc cycle and it will go throughout...

[FishOrCutBait]

Originally Posted by NeverEnough

yes i believe you are correct...when i said about a week before i meant atleast...it will probably be about 8 or 9 days before the havoc cycle and it will go throughout...

im sorry I cant read.

i didnt even see that man.

[NeverEnough]

its straight bro...but i do have another question...ino there are alot of threads out there that will tell me what a good cycle of nolva is to run as a pct after havoc but they differ alot...does anyone know what is actually a solid dose for nolva as a pct starting day after last havoc day

[FishOrCutBait]

Originally Posted by NeverEnough

its straight bro...but i do have another question...ino there are alot of threads out there that will tell me what a good cycle of nolva is to run as a pct after havoc but they differ alot...does anyone know what is actually a solid dose for nolva as a pct starting day after last havoc day

Typically I hear
40mg
40mg
20mg
20mg
is good.

and be aware that if you are using a product that is labeled for Xmg of Tamoxifen CITRATE per ml, then you need to account for that by increasing the dose, because it isnt necessarily Xmg of Tamoxifen, which is the active part of that.

I hear 20mg of Tamoxifen Citrate = 14mg of Tamoxifen.
So if you're using a typical liquid nolva that is dosed for 20mg Tamoxifen Citrate per Ml, you would need 3ml to equal just over 42mg of Tamoxifen.

So...
40mg or 3ml/day
40mg or 3ml/day
20mg or 1.5ml/day
20mg or 1.5ml/day

This was my best understanding of stuff that ive read. So please continue to look for advice/answers.

[NeverEnough]

thats some solid advice bro thanks...and would that be best to take in the morning right

[NeverEnough]

Sorry...half in the morning half later in the day..that'd be best correct?

[workingatit43]

I believe the Nolva from CEM is true 20. I would not run that high of a Nolva dose for Havoc only. IMO 20/20/10/10 is enough for this.

[NeverEnough]

AG-Guys & Affiliates :: SERMs :: LiquiNolva

this is the product i want ..correct? how does it measure out..

[angel77]

I PM'D YOU MAN. CHECK IT OUT. I THINK THIS SHOULD HELP YOU.

[workingatit43]

This is the one I was talking about.


http://www.cemproducts.com/tamox.html

[angel77]

you don't need to take Milk Thistle on top of the Cycle Support. It has plenty enough of it already.

[NeverEnough]

Yeah I didn't realize it had 1000mg per two servings...good lookin out....but I'm not going to be taking cycle support with my pct so should I get a milk thistle product for my pct cycle

[workingatit43]

Originally Posted by NeverEnough

Yeah I didn't realize it had 1000mg per two servings...good lookin out....but I'm not going to be taking cycle support with my pct so should I get a milk thistle product for my pct cycle

If you are running a SERM yes get the milk thistle if not you probally do not need it. Good luck bro.